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Los Angeles Premeds: Michael Gregor MD to speak at UCLA

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by Street Philosopher, Feb 20, 2003.

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  1. Street Philosopher

    Street Philosopher freebird 10+ Year Member

    Aug 10, 2000
    ann arbor
    the guy who wrote the infamous journal about his experience at Tufts is going to speak. remember him? here's the link to his archived page:

    February 25, 2003 - Tuesday
    5:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    CHS 13-105 (UCLA Hospital)
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  3. sponch

    sponch Senior Member 7+ Year Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Palo Alto, CA
    interesting reading!
  4. UCLAstudent

    UCLAstudent I'm a luck dragon! 10+ Year Member

    Sep 6, 2002
    Good to know... thanks for sharing! I'm going to try to make it.
  5. Deuce 007 MD

    Deuce 007 MD license to ill 7+ Year Member

    Oct 25, 2002
    in bed with your mom
    I want to go but, don't think I can make it.
  6. uclabruins47

    uclabruins47 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Jul 18, 2002
    do you know what organization is hosting this?
  7. CTIL

    CTIL Member 7+ Year Member

    Dec 13, 2002
    Talk about depressing. Did you guys read any of that? I hope things aren't really that bad.

    I'm getting a second degree in med school in case this guy's right. Maybe I'll get my JD and become a doctor's worst nightmare.
  8. pocwana

    pocwana MD/MBA candidate c/o 2008 7+ Year Member

    May 11, 2002
    Premed AMSA. Here's the e-mail being sent out:

    Speaker: Michael Greger, M.D.
    February 25, 2003 - Tuesday
    5:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    CHS 13-105

    Michael Greger, M.D. is a nationally recognized speaker on a number of
    important public health and social justice issues. Dr. Greger is a
    general practitioner specializing in vegetarian nutrition. He is a
    graduate of the Cornell University School of Agriculture and the
    Tufts University School of Medicine.

    Dr. Michael Greger shares personal stories from his own experiences in
    medical training from his book Heart Failure: Diary of a Third Year
    Medical Student in hopes of sparking discussion on controversial issues
    such as informed consent, the ethics of first-time procedures, and
    medical student abuse and fatigue. By opening up this dialogue, Dr.
    Greger hopes to break through some of the isolation surrounding these
    often painful areas and help trainees renew their school's commitment
    to medical student well-being.


    Food will be served. Please come and join us for dinner and a great
  9. irlandesa

    irlandesa Senior Member 7+ Year Member

    Feb 16, 2003
    as a tufts student I found some of Dr. Greger's writings interesting to say the least.. while Tufts is certainly not a perfect school by any means, my experiences so far with anatomy and my early clinical experiences have been nothing like what he mentioned (which is, BTW, a lot of quotes from journals). We are always taught in our Interviewing and Physical Diagnosis courses to be respectful to patients at all times, and there were no "lopping off of breasts" on cadavers in the anatomy lab to say the least. All of the doctors I've worked with via Selectives and PD II have been great, and I can tell it is not an act to impress us. And I think a lot has changed since he was in med school, with doctors working to fight medical student and resident abuse and limit working hours (albeit these are still problems). And I'm sorry, but some of his realizations and points are just plain naive. Gee, who would have ever thought that many med students and docs have narcissistic personality disorder?:D And c'mon, if I ever want to grow up to become a doctor that knows how to help people I can not stop to give EVERY single homeless person on the street money or invite them to my apartment to live or walk 50 ppl/day to a shelter. Give me a break. I'm also rather suspicious of the fact that he never mentioned any friends except for his fiancee, who seemed to serve the purpose in his book of regurgitating his opinions on med school. He also focused on everything negative about the staff, with hardly any positive stories about the patients. Trust me, it is hard to ignore patients and the kind of $#-+ many of them go through, going to my Selective in Peds and my PDII day at Shattuck Hospital are what keep me going and what helps me keep my silly problems in perspective. I know third year will be tough, but it will mean more to me than being warm and safe in the lecture hall, even if some surgeons are mean and crude and awful for 12 weeks.
    anyway, best of luck to any applicants and let me know what he has to say. just curious..
  10. maoeris

    maoeris Senior Member 7+ Year Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    San Diego
    This is all interesting. The guy contacted me about 8 times to talk at my school, since we also have an AMSA chapter. Funny thing was I had an old "New Physician" and he interviewed for part of an article. At the time 1998 I believe he was a third year. Anyways I did the math and realized he never truly practiced medicine as a doctor that has gone through residency. (I definitely did not invite him to speak) Obviously the guy chose the wrong career, and some how thought doctor's were supposed to be god like and save everyone. As future doctor's, we are to try to increase the quality of life for people by reducing pain etc. Hopefully he won't be too pessimistic. Its a shame if he does, since many already struggle with their decision to become a doctor.
  11. maoeris

    maoeris Senior Member 7+ Year Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    San Diego
    One more thing, anyone who will be seeing him speak, please ask him how many schools he had applied to.. it was a riduculously high number
  12. Deuce 007 MD

    Deuce 007 MD license to ill 7+ Year Member

    Oct 25, 2002
    in bed with your mom
    Could you get his stats while your at it too?

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