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kcoughli said:
BJ I have in the same category I've had Snowy (pre death), SAR (pre death), Allie, SOV, and Crayola. Which is to say, no effing clue. I know they're playing, I know some of them have been participating, but none of them have stood out to me enough to have me push them into village or wolf category.
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Could you try squeezing them into one or the other category?
 
kcoughli said:
I've racked up sketch points for dolphin since I first voted for her (D2? 3?). I briefly moved off because she had some comments that just sounded like frustrated villager, but then started getting back to being sketchy. A lot of stating things as fact which are unknown (at least to the village, wolves would know) like wolf numbers, conversion mechanic, etc. which I could see happening with a noob wolf (and I'm pretty sure she's fairly noob yes?). That and her pseudo defense of SAR yesterday. Trying to question the vote without actually trying to commit too much to the defense, it felt noob-wolf. Perhaps no vet wolf was around to reign her in so she thought it was on her to try to save SAR? That was part of the theory I mentioned having earlier, I kind of want to go see who was around when dolph was doing that and who was awol...

BJ I have in the same category I've had Snowy (pre death), SAR (pre death), Allie, SOV, and Crayola. Which is to say, no effing clue. I know they're playing, I know some of them have been participating, but none of them have stood out to me enough to have me push them into village or wolf category.

What are YOUR thoughts on your current state of survival and the fact that DVMD is dead? Because that was a surprising night result for me.
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@Animal Midwife

I’m responding to KC and addressing how I feel about her. You are saying I stated wolf numbers and conversion mechanics as a FACT. I did not, I said those were things me and Pippy discussed and I had them in the back of my head as a possibility. And I already explained how it would be pretty dumb to defend SAR in any way at that point when I did bc I believe it was after AM role revealed which was the other top candidate at the time. I can promise y’all, and pretty sure it’s the reason I got lynched the game I wolfed, That I didn’t talk like at all didn’t really defend. And coop told me to never talk to her, avoid each other as much as possible. My noob wolf problem was I was afraid to draw attention to myself or overly defend/or make someone a big deal. And it was hard for me to make wolfy candidates when I knew I was a wolf. I am not playing like that this game...

But you keep mentioning reasons that I’ve already addressed and acting like I haven’t said anything to the go against what you’re saying.

Also back to AM wanting me to say how i feel on KC a lot of me is annoyed with the repetitive reasons and feeling like not listening to my reasons or responses. So I’m leaning slightly wolfy.

And BJ like I said I feel like BJ has been skating by in the sense that she has posts but I haven’t even really noticed them. Until recently like this night cycle. I feel like DVMD mentioned that after me as well. But I’m not sure on that. Anyways I have a wolf lean at the moment
 
dolphin106258 said:
@Animal Midwife

I’m responding to KC and addressing how I feel about her. You are saying I stated wolf numbers and conversion mechanics as a FACT. I did not, I said those were things me and Pippy discussed and I had them in the back of my head as a possibility. And I already explained how it would be pretty dumb to defend SAR in any way at that point when I did bc I believe it was after AM role revealed which was the other top candidate at the time. I can promise y’all, and pretty sure it’s the reason I got lynched the game I wolfed, That I didn’t talk like at all didn’t really defend. And coop told me to never talk to her, avoid each other as much as possible. My noob wolf problem was I was afraid to draw attention to myself or overly defend/or make someone a big deal. And it was hard for me to make wolfy candidates when I knew I was a wolf. I am not playing like that this game...

But you keep mentioning reasons that I’ve already addressed and acting like I haven’t said anything to the go against what you’re saying.

Also back to AM wanting me to say how i feel on KC a lot of me is annoyed with the repetitive reasons and feeling like not listening to my reasons or responses. So I’m leaning slightly wolfy.

And BJ like I said I feel like BJ has been skating by in the sense that she has posts but I haven’t even really noticed them. Until recently like this night cycle. I feel like DVMD mentioned that after me as well. But I’m not sure on that. Anyways I have a wolf lean at the moment
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I may not be as active as I like to be, but I don't think I'm skating by. I'vee been far more present on thread than you have, so would you say you are skating by?
 
bryndiana.jones said:
I may not be as active as I like to be, but I don't think I'm skating by. I'vee been far more present on thread than you have, so would you say you are skating by?
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I said earlier it had nothing to do with activity level or how many posts. It’s the fact that what i had read wasn’t substantial or didn’t seem important idk the best way to describe it. Like it doesn’t seem like a villager trying to be involved it seemed more like a wolf posting to post. Like I said it’s hard to explain. So it seemed off to me.
 
bryndiana.jones said:
I may not be as active as I like to be, but I don't think I'm skating by. I'vee been far more present on thread than you have, so would you say you are skating by?
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Also I’m clearly not skating by, people keep bringing me up, pointing out posts and disagreeing with things I’ve said..
 
bryndiana.jones said:
I'm more worried about skim than I am KC
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Interesting. I feel the opposite. Can't really put my finger on it but skim feels more like her village self from what I have read (I admit I skipped probably 4 or 5 or 10 pages)
 
kcoughli said:
Want to share why you think there's a good reason to go here? Also, maybe want to contribute a bit on the rest of the current players? Allie was not super forthcoming with her play and since you're subbing in I'm expecting to hear more than a lynch vote and silence...
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You'll get what I feel like posting and have time for. Process of elimination, little bit of vote and interaction analysis, and some feels led me to you. Do you have a good reason why I shouldn't be voting for you?
 
dolphin106258 said:
@Animal Midwife

I’m responding to KC and addressing how I feel about her. You are saying I stated wolf numbers and conversion mechanics as a FACT. I did not, I said those were things me and Pippy discussed and I had them in the back of my head as a possibility. And I already explained how it would be pretty dumb to defend SAR in any way at that point when I did bc I believe it was after AM role revealed which was the other top candidate at the time. I can promise y’all, and pretty sure it’s the reason I got lynched the game I wolfed, That I didn’t talk like at all didn’t really defend. And coop told me to never talk to her, avoid each other as much as possible. My noob wolf problem was I was afraid to draw attention to myself or overly defend/or make someone a big deal. And it was hard for me to make wolfy candidates when I knew I was a wolf. I am not playing like that this game...

But you keep mentioning reasons that I’ve already addressed and acting like I haven’t said anything to the go against what you’re saying.

Also back to AM wanting me to say how i feel on KC a lot of me is annoyed with the repetitive reasons and feeling like not listening to my reasons or responses. So I’m leaning slightly wolfy.

And BJ like I said I feel like BJ has been skating by in the sense that she has posts but I haven’t even really noticed them. Until recently like this night cycle. I feel like DVMD mentioned that after me as well. But I’m not sure on that. Anyways I have a wolf lean at the moment
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I was asked for thoughts and reasons and so I gave them. I keep mentioning the same things because even if you say "well I wouldn't do that as a wolf!" Isn't really enough to change my mind. It felt off, it's a theory, and unless someone else has a better one I'm inclined to see where it goes. Honestly the biggest point I have in your favor is pippy voting for you yesterday during the cluster. I hate it when one of my biggest sketch suspects votes for another one.
 
WildZoo said:
You'll get what I feel like posting and have time for. Process of elimination, little bit of vote and interaction analysis, and some feels led me to you. Do you have a good reason why I shouldn't be voting for you?
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Snarky. I realized like many others that Allie was under the radar due to low posts. I am hoping to be able to get a read on her/you via more participation.

Yeah my reason is that I'm a villager. Or Thanksgiving as my phone wanted to say
 
kcoughli said:
Snarky. I realized like many others that Allie was under the radar due to low posts. I am hoping to be able to get a read on her/you via more participation.

Yeah my reason is that I'm a villager. Or Thanksgiving as my phone wanted to say
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I said a good reason, not a lame one 😉
 
WildZoo said:
I said a good reason, not a lame one 😉
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Thanksgiving is a really good reason!

No but really, I feel like every thing someone had taken offense with me (cough pippy) doesn't make sense to me. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes.

I've been present and active moreso than I've been able to lately. I'm trying to wolf hunt but no one seems to agree with who I find sketchy, so maybe I am the crazy one.

What are your thoughts on the AM/snowy/dvmd fiasco from yesterday?
 
WildZoo said:
Interesting. I feel the opposite. Can't really put my finger on it but skim feels more like her village self from what I have read (I admit I skipped probably 4 or 5 or 10 pages)
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What do you feel is off about KC? (sorry if you have already answered)
 
Unofficial Day 6 Lynch Tally
dolphin (2) - kc, bj
kc (2) - Pippy, WZ, Pippy
WZ (1) - Stagg

5/10
Lynch close in ~6.5 hours
 
kcoughli said:
Thanksgiving is a really good reason!

No but really, I feel like every thing someone had taken offense with me (cough pippy) doesn't make sense to me. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes.

I've been present and active moreso than I've been able to lately. I'm trying to wolf hunt but no one seems to agree with who I find sketchy, so maybe I am the crazy one.

What are your thoughts on the AM/snowy/dvmd fiasco from yesterday?
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Present/active doesn't equal village. As much as possible I try not to take activity level into direct consideration. I'm rereading now. If I find anything I can explain more concretely, I'll post it. If not, you can assume you floated to the top of my list after process of elimination. To me right now it looks like you avoided interactions with a known wolf and could have been intentionally voting in directions that give the village little info to work with if you flip wolf. We'll see how I feel after looking at it in context though.

I don't have any reason to disbelieve AM at this time, she has been very village AM all game, so unless she has stepped up her wolf play significantly, or was converted, I am not worried.
 
bryndiana.jones said:
What do you feel is off about KC? (sorry if you have already answered)
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See above. Also, regarding skim, see her voting record. There's something I want to check but iirc she voted for SAR almost every day.
 
WildZoo said:
Present/active doesn't equal village. As much as possible I try not to take activity level into direct consideration. I'm rereading now. If I find anything I can explain more concretely, I'll post it. If not, you can assume you floated to the top of my list after process of elimination. To me right now it looks like you avoided interactions with a known wolf and could have been intentionally voting in directions that give the village little info to work with if you flip wolf. We'll see how I feel after looking at it in context though.

I don't have any reason to disbelieve AM at this time, she has been very village AM all game, so unless she has stepped up her wolf play significantly, or was converted, I am not worried.
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So you think the snowy death was coincidence? I'll be the first to admit I don't think I can read AM at all. She always feels sketch to me and I think it's the way she plays. Usually she comes at me harder and tends to get under my skin more, so the fact that she's not (plus other things) makes me wonder if this time she's actually sketch.
 
kcoughli said:
So you think the snowy death was coincidence? I'll be the first to admit I don't think I can read AM at all. She always feels sketch to me and I think it's the way she plays. Usually she comes at me harder and tends to get under my skin more, so the fact that she's not (plus other things) makes me wonder if this time she's actually sketch.
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Sure, why not? Wolves can use process of elimination too. Their options for who was the seer were dwindling. Just skimming I could narrow it down to 4 or 5 players, if one or two of those options is a wolf, well, that's pretty good odds. And I may have missed things. I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility that they hit snowy without actually knowing she was the seer. Not to mention we don't know what kind of information gathering abilities they might have.

I've seen far too many misguided "Kill this person if I die because they know things!" scenarios to use that as a lynch stat alone. Not when she's got a great voting record and has been hitting all her village AM tells.
 
I legit in dead chat when AM was getting heat for being cagey was like "What are they on about, this is village PR AM to a T"

I think part of my feels for you, kc, might actually have come from those interactions :thinking: But I don't remember now.
 
Just so I don't forget, I think it's probably dangerous to disregard our two late adds forever. Could they both be village? Yes. But I think more likely one of them is third party at least, if not actually woof. Late add woof would be interesting. I'm very much looking forward to seeing thoughts from cray soon.
 
kcoughli said:
Yeah but Cray was always intended to be a late addition wasn't she? What makes you think she's village? (beyond the late-add, actually a planned late add might be the perfect wolf, like a pseudo convert) She hasn't said much of anything at all.
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Yeah, she was supposed to be a late add, and I was thinking originally it could make sense to add her as a wolf, exactly as you described.

It's one of the reasons I was leaning even more village on SOV for a while; I doubt they would both be sketchballs.

The reason why I think she is village is that she actually seemed like the spacey busy version of herself the one or two times she came on to the thread, and lynched SAR as her first actual game action. I just don't really see her busing someone so casually as a wolf.
kcoughli said:
Also this is an FYI for everyone, this afternoon I'm flying out for a mystery vacation this weekend. No idea if I'll have loads of relaxing time to uber participate or will be crazy busy and not able to participate a lot.
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Oh gosh, have fun! Surprise vacations are so exciting 🙂
I got surprised with a trip to the Derby a few years ago; was so fun to just go to the airport with no idea of what was going to happen

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PippyPony said:
Yeah, she was supposed to be a late add, and I actually was thinking originally it could make sense to add her as a wolf, exactly as you described.

The reason why I think she is village is that she actually seemed like the spacey version of herself the one or two times she came on to the thread, and lynched SAR as her first actual game action. I just don't really see her busing someone so casually as a wolf.

Oh gosh, have fun! Surprise vacations are so exciting 🙂
I got surprised with a trip to the Derby a few years ago; was so fun to just go to the airport with no idea of what was going to happen
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Update: destination NYC (I've never been!) And it sounds like we're going to be hella busy.
 
Did I already mention frozenness this game? Don't want to repeat myself unnecessarily.
 
These are kind of random...
katashark said:
One passenger who had been studying water quality stated that all measurements had been in normal ranges for this location. However, upon wafting, they had noticed a sweet smell. Another passenger had noticed water moving in the opposite direction from outside her window.
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I think this was from night 1. Any idea what it might be about? Maybe a role I missed/haven't gotten to yet?

SARdoghandler said:
I'm pretty inclined to believe Pippy's villageness and I don't like the interaction between her and genny. I just did a quick catch up and I'm totally okay going back to my original genny feels from yesterday.

Unlynch jboo, lynch genny
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This was a weird last-5-minutes flip from one village wagon to another, and I can't see a reason for it. Unless wolves just wanted the tinkerer gone that badly. Very confused. Must think more.
 
kcoughli said:
Update: destination NYC (I've never been!) And it sounds like we're going to be hella busy.
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Exciting!!! I really like Soho, the Meatpacking district, and Chelsea (one of the main office buildings for my previous career takes up a whole city block in Chelsea, used to go there all the time for work).

Broadway is amazing, of course. Ellis Island and the Bronx Zoo (+ its snek) are probably my other two favorite activities. Plus the food, because omgggggggg.
 
WildZoo said:
It was before jboo had revealed too, so unless wolves had extra info it's not like she would have known she was flipping from a less powerful role to a more powerful one. Just weird.
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It's kind of why I was leaning towards that delayed block being the secondary result of another action, specifically ability seering. Wolves would probably have hit genny with something like that N1, so they would have known she was a tinkerer + had the first mate abilities. Perhaps they did not anticipate her not being able to (or choosing to?) save herself in a lynch, so SAR could have voted there thinking the lynch wouldn't go through? But that's just my theory on it, and I agree, pretty strange.
 
PippyPony said:
Snowy mentioned it very briefly early on, there hasn't been any discussion of it after that, iirc.

I'd be down for trying to figure it out; I haven't really sat down and looked at it yet.
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Feel free. I have a big radiology quiz tomorrow (I barely remember normal anatomy at all, let alone what it looks like with shadow magic applied), so after I finish reading everything I'm going to be pretty sparse. Game mechanics are my love but I just don't have time for the rabbit holes :arghh:

Just got to where you were talking about role names. I agree they don't seem too important here. Usually wouldn't be all gungho but, meh, why not. Was Cthulhu, now am Loch Ness monster.
 
WildZoo said:
Just got to where you were talking about role names. I agree they don't seem too important here. Usually wouldn't be all gungho but, meh, why not. Was Cthulhu, now am Loch Ness monster.
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I kinda thought they were a liiiittle important. Some of them have made sense in retrospect (like SAR was saying about Coffee etc lol) and at the time I was wondering if there was correlation to the night results that genny posted.

I'd still like people to share, but I doubt folks are going to go for it
 
I think I'm feeling kc and dolphin for remaining woofs. Almost caught up to parts I had already read.

Animal Midwife said:
The number of people not voting increases by the day. Everyone's out to get me.
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Does this count as a mention of frozenness? 😛
PippyPony said:
I'm going to go on record right now and say that if this is a typical game set up, and AM is a wolf, part of a regular ol' wolf pack, she has just improved the quality of her wolfing by approximately 1000% imo.

I do think she'd still panic-kill Cheezit N1, though. Might be the only person playing who fits with that kill target choice lol
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Agree with the first part, heavily disagree with the second. I would think after the events of Afterparty she would have no reason to panic-kill him. And, didn't do so then, so why do it this time?
 
I am still stuck on the supposed attacks on AM...where there were never any 2nd attacks on anyone else.

Claiming protector would be a ballsy move, but I wouldn’t put it last kaydubs making a wolf protector. But a wolf protector who seems as village would be an awesomely strong role. I am not putting my vote there again, but I am not comfortable with this inconsistency either.
 
Lynch Crayola

Need to think more... but want to put that out there. Since I am village as a late add, I am willing to test and see if the theory one must not be village is true. Of course if the theory is wrong then I am lynched tomorrow but worth the chance IMO, and I doubt anyone will miss me.
 
StartingoverVet said:
I am still stuck on the supposed attacks on AM...where there were never any 2nd attacks on anyone else.

Claiming protector would be a ballsy move, but I wouldn’t put it last kaydubs making a wolf protector. But a wolf protector who seems as village would be an awesomely strong role. I am not putting my vote there again, but I am not comfortable with this inconsistency either.
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We did have two deaths n1, so not "never"
Haven't had another successful double kill night though, this is true. Was surprised at the apparently single attack last night actually.


Maybe there was a conversion
 
WildZoo said:
We did have two deaths n1, so not "never"
Haven't had another successful double kill night though, this is true. Was surprised at the apparently single attack last night actually.

Maybe there was a conversion
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in the ancient greek version of the Hydra legend, it has regenerative capabilities :lame:

Chop off one of the heads, 2 more pop up in its place...
 
I have some super duper extra shiny tinfoil hat theories, but I'm not sure if I should put them on the thread. They don't really match with how I'm reading people in terms of posts, but will share if anyone is interested. Otherwise they're going in my mod PM.
 
PippyPony said:
I have some super duper extra shiny tinfoil hat theories, but I'm not sure if I should put them on the thread. They don't really match with how I'm reading people in terms of posts, but will share if anyone is interested. Otherwise they're going in my mod PM.
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Post themmmmm
 
SARdoghandler said:
I am the hydra. When I die someone will be random rezzed. Sounds great, except it doesn't say what affiliation the rezz-e will come back as and the mods say that they cannot answer that question.
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This claim would fit well with a conversion-upon-death type thing. I don't like it.

katashark said:
What follows is NOT what the passengers accomplished today...
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However, this IS what the passengers accomplished!
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latest
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Not quite sure what to make of this. Someone who knows what the top two gifs are from...help?

katashark said:
Supplies
Air - 30%
Fuel - 40%
Rations - 55%
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This seems concerning
 
kaydubs said:
Another mod announcement to interrupt your sub vacation:
@WildZoo will be replacing @allieh8607 due to some unforeseen circumstances.

Keep swimming!
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Ahahaha. I'm a sub on a sub. Subz subs on a sub.

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I'm gonna go study now. Leaving my vote where it is, sorry kc peaced out but I'm not seeing anything on reread that made me feel any better about her. Will check back before close (10pm EST, yes?)
 
WildZoo said:
Ahahaha. I'm a sub on a sub. Subz subs on a sub.

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I'm gonna go study now. Leaving my vote where it is, sorry kc peaced out but I'm not seeing anything on reread that made me feel any better about her. Will check back before close (10pm EST, yes?)
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Close is 11pm now.
 
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