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Hey guys,
I expect a ton of people to bash me, but several person to legitimately provide me with the pros/cons of both sides without hitting on the moral issue of what I am about to say.
First off, my stats are great: top 20ugrad, publication, 3.98 gpa, clinical service, leadership, shadowing...its down to the MCAT. Now, I am killing myself for the MCAT and hope to do really well, but my ultimate goal is to try to exploit as many possibilities and avenues possible to guarantee and give me every advantage to get into a top 5 med school- this may even involve a simple lie of my ethnicity. I want to improve the guarantee as much as possible and it may even involve taking this risk. As an individual, I am a pretty charismatic guy, get along with anyone, can do well in the interviews, but I am not going to lie- if I can get away with something for my benefit- I would do so. Call the act shameful, immoral, unethical, unworthy of any medical school acceptance, etc....I am not looking for criticism of the act, rather, what the WORST possible scenarios can be and how can med schools catch me.
My act: Well I am a desi and a pretty dark indian. 100% indian. Sure, my friends joke around that I look black, etc... My other friends, perhaps my smart, close comrades- who graduated from the Ivies and working at top positions in their fields of law, business and medicine- suggested the idea about saying I was African-American on my application. At first, I was shocked but then I genuinely realized that my appearance justifies the checkbox of African/American I put down on my apps. My involvement in the African Student Association at my college also justifies it. I am not sure how colleges justify it though.
My evidence: take a look at this half-indian/half black future dermatologist from Harvard. http://youtube.com/watch?v=elGXg76gebQ
True she is half black, but by judging her Indian name (Singh) and her background, I would look at her and think to myself, shes gotta be Indian at first sight. Although I lack the genes, I look black that I am not sure if it would be questionable if I put it down compared to a blonde Caucasian individual who put it down on her application- an easy catch.
My ultimate questions: If I did play this facade on my application, interview, etc...what would happen? What documents (passport, birth certificate), or genealogy tests would these med schools run to ensure themselves that they are indeed evaluating a black individual? Do they even take these extensive measures to say that someone has submitted a "fraudulent application" ? Would my credentials help me in the sense that med schools would think that a good candidate would be Foolish to lie about ethnicity (that is, its one thing if a 3.4 32 MCAT guy was seeking a hook to get in), but in my circumstance, med schools would not question a top caliber student's morality in lying on the applications.
Thus, I am only CURIOUS as to what measures med schools take, and am not interested in the criticism of this act in itself.
thanks.
I expect a ton of people to bash me, but several person to legitimately provide me with the pros/cons of both sides without hitting on the moral issue of what I am about to say.
First off, my stats are great: top 20ugrad, publication, 3.98 gpa, clinical service, leadership, shadowing...its down to the MCAT. Now, I am killing myself for the MCAT and hope to do really well, but my ultimate goal is to try to exploit as many possibilities and avenues possible to guarantee and give me every advantage to get into a top 5 med school- this may even involve a simple lie of my ethnicity. I want to improve the guarantee as much as possible and it may even involve taking this risk. As an individual, I am a pretty charismatic guy, get along with anyone, can do well in the interviews, but I am not going to lie- if I can get away with something for my benefit- I would do so. Call the act shameful, immoral, unethical, unworthy of any medical school acceptance, etc....I am not looking for criticism of the act, rather, what the WORST possible scenarios can be and how can med schools catch me.
My act: Well I am a desi and a pretty dark indian. 100% indian. Sure, my friends joke around that I look black, etc... My other friends, perhaps my smart, close comrades- who graduated from the Ivies and working at top positions in their fields of law, business and medicine- suggested the idea about saying I was African-American on my application. At first, I was shocked but then I genuinely realized that my appearance justifies the checkbox of African/American I put down on my apps. My involvement in the African Student Association at my college also justifies it. I am not sure how colleges justify it though.
My evidence: take a look at this half-indian/half black future dermatologist from Harvard. http://youtube.com/watch?v=elGXg76gebQ
True she is half black, but by judging her Indian name (Singh) and her background, I would look at her and think to myself, shes gotta be Indian at first sight. Although I lack the genes, I look black that I am not sure if it would be questionable if I put it down compared to a blonde Caucasian individual who put it down on her application- an easy catch.
My ultimate questions: If I did play this facade on my application, interview, etc...what would happen? What documents (passport, birth certificate), or genealogy tests would these med schools run to ensure themselves that they are indeed evaluating a black individual? Do they even take these extensive measures to say that someone has submitted a "fraudulent application" ? Would my credentials help me in the sense that med schools would think that a good candidate would be Foolish to lie about ethnicity (that is, its one thing if a 3.4 32 MCAT guy was seeking a hook to get in), but in my circumstance, med schools would not question a top caliber student's morality in lying on the applications.
Thus, I am only CURIOUS as to what measures med schools take, and am not interested in the criticism of this act in itself.
thanks.
