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Disgusting. Disgusting. We slaughter our pigs and cows more humanely than that.
Awful.
While I understand culling animals due to lack of usefulness (farm mentality, I guess - if something does not or can not produce, you cannot afford to keep it), these people had many MANY other options - everything from adoption and rescues to (last resort) humane euthanasia if the dogs simply could not be properly cared for.
Disgusting. Disgusting. We slaughter our pigs and cows more humanely than that.
What wrong with using a gun? Pre-vet/vet students seem to have a hard time understanding "the real world". I have a feeling that the vast majority of people on this thread would rather save the dog then the baby if someones house was on fire. One last thing, your animals are not your babies they are your pets (by saying this you bring to mind images of some old, lonely person who will one day deeply regret they never had offspring).
What wrong with using a gun? Pre-vet/vet students seem to have a hard time understanding "the real world". I have a feeling that the vast majority of people on this thread would rather save the dog then the baby if someones house was on fire. One last thing, your animals are not your babies they are your pets (by saying this you bring to mind images of some old, lonely person who will one day deeply regret they never had offspring).
What wrong with using a gun? Pre-vet/vet students seem to have a hard time understanding "the real world". I have a feeling that the vast majority of people on this thread would rather save the dog then the baby if someones house was on fire. One last thing, your animals are not your babies they are your pets (by saying this you bring to mind images of some old, lonely person who will one day deeply regret they never had offspring).
Something smells in here...
We have animal welfare legislation. Unfortunately, like with all crimes, making something illegal doesn't stop it from happening. If it did, there would be no murders, thefts, etc.I hope Canada adopts the same guidelines if they haven't already.
I'm sure that many adoption centers, vet offices, or animal welfare organizations would have provided that service or tried to find them homes. I don't buy the story that they tried.
^ This.I am very well aware that animals are below humans. Period. But that does not mean that if one must kill them for economic survival or profit, one should not bother to do it do it humanely and effectively.
Yet another reason why I hate the Olympics.
The problem with using a gun is that the vast majority of people do not know how to use one effectively to kill an animal in one shot. Even with our cattle, we would not risk shooting them except clamped with a penetrating bolt. Even worse for horses, considering their skeletal structure.
I am very well aware that animals are below humans. Period. But that does not mean that if one must kill them for economic survival or profit, one should not bother to do it do it humanely and effectively.
I am going to have to second this. What happened is deplorable however if we do a bit of root-cause analysis desperate financial situations are typical for countries after they have hosted the Olympics (i.e Greece). Countries are lulled into believing that hosting the games will bring them billions in revenue, and they do, but billions must be invested first for stadiums, accommodations etc. And as fast as the money comes, its leaves. I've heard that they are considering spreading the games over an entire continent to avoid this problem in the future but changing any established system, as we all know, is painfully slow.
dont worry not going that route, thank the good Lord
...what? Something tells me that if you are a vet student you are going into food animal.
My guess is that they are going into research with Parasit...in a lab setting where they never have to deal with clients and animals aside from their lab animals, of which I hope IACUC is all on their ass, making sure they treat their lab animals humanely.
My guess is that they are going into research with Parasit...in a lab setting where they never have to deal with clients and animals aside from their lab animals, of which I hope IACUC is all on their ass, making sure they treat their lab animals humanely.
Hmmm....they are still going to have clients: granting organizations, research reviewers, journal editors, other researchers, IACUC, etc.
Hmmm....they are still going to have clients: granting organizations, research reviewers, journal editors, other researchers, IACUC, etc.
I may not like culling a bunch of dogs, but I'm not morally oppossed to it. That probably comes from my working dog background, farm background, and conservation biology background (lots of deer populations need to be culled.)
While I can't object to culling out of hand, I can object to doing so in such a poor manner.
Also - I don't have a problem with guns, but the right caliber gun should be used and the person had better know how to use it. Sounds like neither happened in this case.
...what? Something tells me that if you are a vet student you are going into food animal.
Right, because food animal people don't give a s** about animals
Even worse for horses [using a gun], considering their skeletal structure.
The problem with using a gun is that the vast majority of people do not know how to use one effectively to kill an animal in one shot. Even with our cattle, we would not risk shooting them except clamped with a penetrating bolt. Even worse for horses, considering their skeletal structure.
From: http://www.avma.org/issues/animal_welfare/unwanted_horses_faq.aspGunshot and the penetrating captive bolt are acceptable physical methods of euthanasia. When used in the correct manner, they induce death more rapidly than chemical euthanasia. They produce death in the same way, by disrupting the brain and causing loss of consciousness and subsequent death. Euthanasia by gunshot may pose an inherent risk for other animals and humans, and should only be performed by someone skilled in the method and in a safe environment.
Really? Then why is it the preferred method in Europe? I realize you're a resident and I'm just a pre-vet hopeful, but ... Done properly, I believe a gun is more humane on a horse than it is on cattle.
That's not what I meant at all. The post did not say that they do not give a **** about animals and I never said food animal vets do not give a **** about animals. I don't know where you got that from.
Just be aware how you come off. Your comment insinuated that since this person obviously is very insensitive to animals, they must be going into food animal. Things can come off differently than what you mean when it's just typed on the internet.
Are we talking gun as in rifle/shotgun, or gun as in captive bolt gun (which is the preferred method for cattle etc here in the US).
All I meant was that this person seemed to have the mentality that "an animal is an animal" and the only time I have ever come across this mentality with someone who actually works with animals is in the food industry. I live in a very rural area and did 4-H for years and have always been amazed at how people can put a lot of love and effort into an animal and then happily send them off for slaughter. I am not saying all food animal vets are like this, but every one I have met is.
I think people are reading too much into what I said and making assumptions. The seemingly cold-hearted post was made, people think "they're a dick!" then they see that I said "food animal" and people think I was calling all food animal vets dicks. Not so.
Le sigh....