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Hi, I am planning to study counseling psychology for my masters(M.Ed).
I was wondering if the grad school ranking mean a lot.
This is the counselling psychology ranking I found in the internet.
1. University of Maryland College Park
2. University of Florida
3. University of Minnesota Twin Cities
4. Ohio State University Columbus
4. University of Georgia
6. University of Wisconsin Madison
7. University of Illinois Urbana - Champaign
8. Indiana University Bloomington
9. University of Missouri Columbia
10. Penn State University University Park
11. University of Iowa
11. University of Virginia (Curry)
13. University of North Carolina Greensboro
14. Michigan State University
15. Arizona State University Main Campus
16. Florida State University
17. Teachers College, Columbia University (NY)
18. University of Kansas
18. University of North Texas
20. George Washington University (DC)
20. University of Texas Austin
Does ranking like this reflect the quality and the reputation of the grad program?
I wanted to go to Teacher's College @ Columbia University...
Although the "Ivy-Columbia" stands as #2 for the overall ranking in education grad program, the ranking for counseling psychology program is quite low here.
I have heard that the reputation and quality of grad school is much more important compare to undergrad.
Also I heard that for grad programs, many not so-prestigious schools have very good programs in specific fields.
For example, I haven't really heard about schools such as University of Maryland, University of Florida, etc. Yet, these schools are the top schools in in the counseling psychology program according to the ranking.
Anyway, I was wondering if these rankings mean a lot. If so, would it be not wise to go to Teacher's college @ Columbia instead of the schools listed on the top?
Someone in the collegeconfidential forum said that Teachers college is awful program...
he said " the masters programs at TC are very unorganized, unchallenging, and diploma factories. the phd programs are slightly better. "
and he also gave an example of Harvard
"harvard is a perfect example. while overall its ranked high for psychology, their clinical program (the most popular area for psychology) is not even accredited, and have only 2 full time professors. you really have to do your research before investing in a graduate education."
Then he refered me to this forum
Is this true? Is TC really a bad school?
Now I am unsure if it's worth the money to go the Teacher's College @ Columbia (Or other well known prestigious school such as Harvard, UPENN,etc)
I was looking for rankings since I don't really have good sources relating to counseling psychology programs in the States.
It seems like the advisor and profs don't really know in-depth information about the program in the states also.
They seem to think that the counseling program in prestigious schools are good since the schools themselves already have excellent reputation.
In fact, for places like Harvard and Teacher's College @ Columbia, they are ranked as #1 and #2 in the Educaton Graduate program.
However, when I look at the more specific ranking-the counseling program within Education Graduate program, those schools are ranked quite low...
and I have heard that not every program in Harvard or Columbia is good
Unfortunately, US news is the only source I can find about the counseling program ranking...and I think they only provide those 20 schools.
TC is ranked in 17 among 20 and Harvard didn't even make to the list.
Unlike the math programs, it seems like there isn't a list below the "top 20".
I assume it is because there aren't as many counseling program compared to other programs.
Anyway, I was thinking of applying to TC now since their deadline is April. They don't require GRE for master's counseling psychology and there is no required minimum work experience.
University of Toronto is another school I want to go, and I know they have good program in Canada, but I have to wait until Fall 2007 since I didn't apply before the deadline due to the lack of volunteering/work experience
Currently I am in my 4th year..I was expecting to stay one more yr in school while I get more volunteering experiences. In this case I was also thinking of taking GRE in this summer.
If I were assured that TC has a good counseling program, then I would like to start the master's degree there in Fall 2007 despite the cost of the money.
However, as I have mentioned, now I am not really sure if TC (or other prestigious schools such as Harvard) has good counseling psychology program that is worth the expansive tuition compared to UofT.
If TC is indeed not a good school, can you please tell me some good master's program in counseling psychology?(I would like to go to the schools that have both good overall reputation and good program if possible)
Thank you
I was wondering if the grad school ranking mean a lot.
This is the counselling psychology ranking I found in the internet.
1. University of Maryland College Park
2. University of Florida
3. University of Minnesota Twin Cities
4. Ohio State University Columbus
4. University of Georgia
6. University of Wisconsin Madison
7. University of Illinois Urbana - Champaign
8. Indiana University Bloomington
9. University of Missouri Columbia
10. Penn State University University Park
11. University of Iowa
11. University of Virginia (Curry)
13. University of North Carolina Greensboro
14. Michigan State University
15. Arizona State University Main Campus
16. Florida State University
17. Teachers College, Columbia University (NY)
18. University of Kansas
18. University of North Texas
20. George Washington University (DC)
20. University of Texas Austin
Does ranking like this reflect the quality and the reputation of the grad program?
I wanted to go to Teacher's College @ Columbia University...
Although the "Ivy-Columbia" stands as #2 for the overall ranking in education grad program, the ranking for counseling psychology program is quite low here.
I have heard that the reputation and quality of grad school is much more important compare to undergrad.
Also I heard that for grad programs, many not so-prestigious schools have very good programs in specific fields.
For example, I haven't really heard about schools such as University of Maryland, University of Florida, etc. Yet, these schools are the top schools in in the counseling psychology program according to the ranking.
Anyway, I was wondering if these rankings mean a lot. If so, would it be not wise to go to Teacher's college @ Columbia instead of the schools listed on the top?
Someone in the collegeconfidential forum said that Teachers college is awful program...
he said " the masters programs at TC are very unorganized, unchallenging, and diploma factories. the phd programs are slightly better. "
and he also gave an example of Harvard
"harvard is a perfect example. while overall its ranked high for psychology, their clinical program (the most popular area for psychology) is not even accredited, and have only 2 full time professors. you really have to do your research before investing in a graduate education."
Then he refered me to this forum
Is this true? Is TC really a bad school?
Now I am unsure if it's worth the money to go the Teacher's College @ Columbia (Or other well known prestigious school such as Harvard, UPENN,etc)
I was looking for rankings since I don't really have good sources relating to counseling psychology programs in the States.
It seems like the advisor and profs don't really know in-depth information about the program in the states also.
They seem to think that the counseling program in prestigious schools are good since the schools themselves already have excellent reputation.
In fact, for places like Harvard and Teacher's College @ Columbia, they are ranked as #1 and #2 in the Educaton Graduate program.
However, when I look at the more specific ranking-the counseling program within Education Graduate program, those schools are ranked quite low...
and I have heard that not every program in Harvard or Columbia is good
Unfortunately, US news is the only source I can find about the counseling program ranking...and I think they only provide those 20 schools.
TC is ranked in 17 among 20 and Harvard didn't even make to the list.
Unlike the math programs, it seems like there isn't a list below the "top 20".
I assume it is because there aren't as many counseling program compared to other programs.
Anyway, I was thinking of applying to TC now since their deadline is April. They don't require GRE for master's counseling psychology and there is no required minimum work experience.
University of Toronto is another school I want to go, and I know they have good program in Canada, but I have to wait until Fall 2007 since I didn't apply before the deadline due to the lack of volunteering/work experience
Currently I am in my 4th year..I was expecting to stay one more yr in school while I get more volunteering experiences. In this case I was also thinking of taking GRE in this summer.
If I were assured that TC has a good counseling program, then I would like to start the master's degree there in Fall 2007 despite the cost of the money.
However, as I have mentioned, now I am not really sure if TC (or other prestigious schools such as Harvard) has good counseling psychology program that is worth the expansive tuition compared to UofT.
If TC is indeed not a good school, can you please tell me some good master's program in counseling psychology?(I would like to go to the schools that have both good overall reputation and good program if possible)
Thank you