MATCH LIST ONLINE?

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  1. NuMD97

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    Hi, Folks:

    After all you people successful match to the dream program of your choice next week (I hope), will the results of the Match be available somewhere online for the folks who DID NOT enter the Match? If so, when will it be made available? I believe the Match comes out next Tuesday, March 19th. Is this correct?

    I'd appreciate any input in this regard. I know folks who could use this info and I honestly don't know how it's being worked these days. Thanks for the help! :)

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  3. prufrock

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    I'm not sure if the Match results are avaliable to everyone immediately. We find out if we matched on Monday, scramble if needed on Tues, and find out where we matched on Thurs. The programs find out who they matched on Wed.

    I think you have to have an NRMP ID and password in order to access any of this information so unless you're going through the match you'll probably have to wait until individual med schools post their match lists. Also, I don't think the NRMP posts everyone's results together (i.e. you can't log on and find out if and where someone else matched).

    I may be entirely wrong about this (if so, correct me) but I'm pretty sure the whole thing stays as private as possible.

    You can give it a shot on Thurs 3/21 at <a href="http://www.nrmp.org." target="_blank">http://www.nrmp.org.</a>
     
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    Here is the email the NRMP sent out earlier this week. It contains some of the info you are looking for. I don't think where each individual person matched is posted anywhere except by some schools. However, information on which programs matched how many people and if they filled will be available to everyone on March 22.

    Match Week is only a week away. This message contains information and times of
    various Match Week events relevant for applicants.

    Noon EST Monday, March 18, 2002
    1. Applicants find out "Did I Match?" - posted to the web and a message sent to this
    e-mail address
    2. Regional Match Statistics by Specialty - posted to the web

    Noon EST Tuesday, March 19, 2002
    1. List of Unfilled Programs - posted to the web for applicants and sent via e-mail
    to unmatched applicants
    2. Unmatched applicants can contact unfilled programs

    Noon EST Thursday, March 21, 2002
    Medical School Match Day Ceremonies

    1:00 pm EST Thursday, March 21, 2002
    Applicants find out "Where Did I Match?" - posted to the web

    6:00 am EST Friday, March 22, 2002
    Match Outcome for all Programs by State - posted to the web
     
  5. NuMD97

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    Thank you, Prufrock and Whisker. That's pretty much what I thought as well. Appreciate your taking the time to post your information here.

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    To be able to view results of the match on Scramble Day or thereafter, you must have an NRMP code. The code is available only for those who register for the match.

    Last year the results were posted on Scutwork because the Webmaster was going through the match and had access to the results. If anyone has access this year and wouldn't mind copying the results, it would be of interest to many here, so please post them.
     
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    Thanks, Kim. I was hoping someone would suggest just that. :)
     
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    I'm sure any one of us, once it all sinks in, will be happy to post the results for everyone else.

    We'll be able to check where we matched at 1pm on Thursday (of course we'll know already) and the actual statistics for the country come out at 6pm on Thurs evening on the NRMP site.

    Can't wait for this to be over!
     
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    I feel for you, Prufrock (and all the others waiting in this waiting game). Hang in there, it's almost over.
     
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    Sooooo we can expect some kind soul or two to scan and post the unmatched list tomorrow then? :) Just a gentle reminder. And many thanks in advance.

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    I'll bump this up so that those who did not match or didn't enter the match but are interested in the results might get some help. Basically the process is as follows:

    Tuesday, March 19 at 12:00 EST the results are available to ANYONE with an NRMP code

    The results are simply by region and specialty - they list each program in each specialty in state alphabetical order and under each program it lists the program code, the number of spots in the match and the number filled. It does not:

    a) tell you WHO matched where
    b) tell you about spots filled outside of the match (ie, aren't really available at the time of the scramble)
    c) whether programs are interested in filling those spots.

    Hopefully sometime tomorrow someone with access will post those results. Since it will be a lengthy list, I might suggest contacting either Lee here or Adrian at <a href="http://www.scutwork.com" target="_blank">www.scutwork.com</a> to see if they can provide server space for it instead of posting it in a thread (ie, quicker access for everyone).

    Best of luck to everyone!
     
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    That's a terrific idea, Kim, to post available positions as a separate thread. I'm sure many will benefit from the post-Match vacancy list. Thanks for your input.

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    THE LIST OF UNFILLED POSITIONS CANNOT BE PROVIDED UNTIL IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DO SO. Posting the list tomorrow is not only unfair to those who REGISTERED for the match and must now scramble, but it is also in violation of the match rules. Anyone who posts it tomorrow will get into SERIOUS trouble! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
     
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    I have looked over both these pages...

    <a href="http://www.nrmp.org./res_match/ensuring.html" target="_blank">http://www.nrmp.org./res_match/ensuring.html</a>
    <a href="http://www.nrmp.org./res_match/policies.html" target="_blank">http://www.nrmp.org./res_match/policies.html</a>

    and unless I misread something, saw no evidence of that being against the rules...I don't know...seems fair to me.
     
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    Why would releasing the list early be fair? Many people simply register (and pay the fee) so that they can get the list early and participate in the scramble. Others have applied to programs, gone on interviews and for whatever reason, didn't match and must scramble. In both cases, they have PAID for the right to have the list early.

    Believe me...there are far more applicants (thousands of FMGs) than there are available positions. Last year, I had a friend who had to scramble. She said that almost immediately, lines were busy and faxes became jammed...it was a madhouse. If YOU had to scramble, would you want unauthorized, extra competition tying up phone lines and delaying YOUR paperwork?

    Keep in mind that the scramble is a "first come, first served" kind of situation. Most programs do not wait until they have all the forthcoming applications...they usually try to fill spots with acceptable candidates as they are received. My friend said that last year all the best spots were filled within the first couple of hours. It's a very heated race.

    MOST IMPORTANTLY, I know this is the case because I called the NRMP and asked. If you don't believe me call them in the morning and find out for yourself.
     
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    Why would releasing the list early be fair? Many people simply register (and pay the fee) so that they can get the list early and participate in the scramble. Others have applied to programs, gone on interviews and for whatever reason, didn't match and must scramble. In both cases, they have PAID for the right to have the list early. Believe me...there are far more applicants (thousands of FMGs) than there are available positions.

    Admittedly, I hadn't given thought about the FMG(or others) factor flooding the gates with attempts at stealing a spot along the way. Although everyone who paid...whether or not they participated in the process should have access to the list. Fair? No. I think most people on here had no ulterior motives for wanting to see the list. They were just curious...I guess it wouldn't kill anyone to have to wait a few more days...but then again...maybe it would.

    MOST IMPORTANTLY, I know this is the case because I called the NRMP and asked. If you don't believe me call them in the morning and find out for yourself.

    Looks like you did some homework. But still, I didn't see it on the site. Although I believe that banning anyone on this site from posting the results is not only futile(as you can't really figure out who did it considering this is an anonymous, for some, web forum) but it does not ensure that those "illegals" can't get a hold of that information from others(i.e. family members in medical school or the medical field with access). I found out the hard way after a bit of naivity that medicine is largely a "who you know" field. I've known of programs that intentionally not rank enough people because they've already had someone in mind and didn't make them go through the match. Fair? No.

    Good Luck to everyone who has to scramble though.

    Added to say, just for the record...I didn't think it was fair for "Bob" to post the open spots before everyone else got a chance...heck, the east coast applicants will already have an advantage as their schools open up first time zone wise...the west coasters have to wait 3 hrs before they can even begin to make calls.

    Poor form.
     
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    AMGs always have the edge. The Match results are made available to them first, by one full day. If in the off-chance an American Medical grad doesn't match, he has the medical school at his disposal and the Dean's office to make the necessary connection for him. That alone usually does it.

    I remember several years ago some smart IMG got in his car and literally drove to several states, map in hand, with many copies of his information packet and didn't return home until he had a position. It took him about a week, but it worked.

    As I said earlier, there is more than one way to go about securing a spot. Good luck to all.

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    I would be happy to post the stats on my server (Scutwork.com). However, I will need someone to email them to me at [email protected] I most likely will post them soon after match day. Hopefully, this will not put anyone in trouble. If you have any ideas, please let me know.

    Meanwhile, GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL!!!!! <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" /> :D

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    Congrats to all the happy campers who found out today where their destiny is taking them for the next few years. Now that the results are out, won't anyone share the list of hospitals that are not completely matched? Would really appreciate it. Thanks.

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now that the results are out, won't anyone share the list of hospitals that are not completely matched? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That won't be available until 6:00 am tomorrow. Just a word of caution, I've been told that some very good programs are not completely filled, but that they are not looking to completely fill. I've been hearing of candidates in the scramble that were not accepted at programs, because they weren't of high enough caliber. The programs would just rather not fill than take less than the best. Don't really know the veracity of that, but it might be something to consider if you are planning to apply to these programs post-match.
     
  21. NuMD97

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    Thanks for the info, medgirl123, I hadn't realized it wasn't out yet. No matter, if it's the same as it has been in years past, it doesn't accurately reflect the open positions. As you said some programs would rather remain unfilled than give it to someone who they consider an 'inferior' candidate. It has also been true that programs not listed as seemingly filled, around July or earlier might find themselves with several empty slots as some contracts are not turned in.

    The whole process is such an arduous undertaking. Just watching you guys go through this the last few months gave me terrible flashbacks! :)

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