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JaggedJimmyJay said:
Thanks for the clarification, and I agree that reading an SK is fundamentally different than reading mafia -- especially with mechanical evidence.
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Ironically, it was one of my best village games until I killed all the wolves and had to start misyeeting people :laugh:
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
I'm getting a little déjà vu, like I have seen this AM/Stagg debate before. Must have been Stardeww 2; I don't think I've played with Stagg in any other game. I could be mistaken.

AM was town and Stagg was mafia in that game. In this case, AM looks town, and I have no read on Stagg. This might be meaningless if it's a debate that erupts often; I defer on that point to those with more knowledge.
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As a heads up, we have this discussion or something along the lines of how we read each other almost every game. It used to be part of how I would read AM, but it's been so long and I play so infrequently that I don't really consider it any more. But apparently here we go:

Animal Midwife said:
Well, you can't read me. I can say since you're without having had a single correct wolf read or village read on me in multiple years. That's beside the point though.

By including yourself in the "us'", you're saying one of two things.

a. I can read you (along with dubz, genny, and SAR) at the bare minimum better than I can read shorty.

b. You're being facetious (and actually saying I can't read dubz, genny, SAR, or you). Which means I can read shorty better than all of you, so why do you have a problem with what I wrote again?

Don't say you were half-joking because that doesn't make sense in or out of context.
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You really want to rehash this debate again. Go pull all your 3P and wolf games from when we played before 2022, probably focus on 2019 and 2020. Other than Orchestra, I was nearly 100% on reading you, but good to see you keep the delusion going.

Option c: You THINK you can read me (and probably can read dubz, genny, and SAR) better than you can read Shorty. That's what I was saying. I had no problem with your vote for Shorty. I had a problem with your statement that she's your easiest read in the game.
 
supershorty said:
Ironically, it was one of my best village games until I killed all the wolves and had to start misyeeting people :laugh:
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When the village is misyeeting more than you. it still meets that criteria, unfortunately.
 
I suddenly feel the urge to say something negative about the Pittsburgh Steelers.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Could @WildZoo @SARdoghandler and @genny recount the numerous times that I correctly yeeted them as a wolf and/or correctly found them as village, especially if this occurs early on?

As for you, could you remind me why your games from the past 1.5 years is you talking about how I I never catch you as a wolf? To the point that it even leaked into last game's deadchat? Why the change of heart today?
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You? Yeet me?

Rare indeed :laugh:
 
Stagg737 said:
As a heads up, we have this discussion or something along the lines of how we read each other almost every game. It used to be part of how I would read AM, but it's been so long and I play so infrequently that I don't really consider it any more. But apparently here we go:


You really want to rehash this debate again. Go pull all your 3P and wolf games from when we played before 2022, probably focus on 2019 and 2020. Other than Orchestra, I was nearly 100% on reading you, but good to see you keep the delusion going.

Option c: You THINK you can read me (and probably can read dubz, genny, and SAR) better than you can read Shorty. That's what I was saying. I had no problem with your vote for Shorty. I had a problem with your statement that she's your easiest read in the game.
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Stagg. 2020 was three years ago. That was my point.

Can someone else explain this to me because I'm not understanding. Why does Stagg think that I should read him right when he thinks I can't and have never been able to read him be a more logical vote than me voting for someone I said I think I can read and that he has no experience with me misreading?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Stagg. 2020 was three years ago. That was my point.

Can someone else explain this to me because I'm not understanding. Why does Stagg thinking that I should read him when he thinks I can't and have never been able to read him be a more logical vote than me voting for someone I said I think I can read and that he has no experience with me misreading?
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I will at least explain my interpretation of Stagg's view, though it's up to him to carry on the dialogue.

He isn't assessing you based on his own view of how well you read people (including him). He is concerned with how well you believe you read people (including him). If, hypothetically, you believe that you can read Stagg better than you can read shorty, then you should vote for him (or one of the other hypotheticals he named).

Just a translation.
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
I'm not sure I follow.

The quote you draw looks like it is coming from me, though the mayoral vote you're bringing into question is AM's. AM's vote wasn't based upon my own considerations that came two pages later? If you mean something else, please clarify.

As I typed that I might have answered my own question, so I will take a stab: if, presumptively, AM has assessed her ability to read shorty based upon town outings, that'd likely be the result of the sample -- shorty also said there was only one wolf game ever. I don't necessarily fault someone for emphasizing correct town reads when they interpret their own accuracy about someone, because in the end it can be the same thing by POE. "Not town read"
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I was questioning your assessment of AM's vote and her statement about her later reasoning about her ability to read Shorty, I was not questioning not AM's vote.

I think it's much better to vote for someone you can consistently, correctly scum read so you can get rid of a bad mayor early if needed. If someone is super confident in someone they can town read very early, that's fine. But if anyone is saying AM's vote was justified because she was town reading her that early, which is what it sounded like you were doing to me, than I have a problem with that.
 
Stagg737 said:
I was questioning your assessment of AM's vote and her statement about her later reasoning about her ability to read Shorty, I was not questioning not AM's vote.

I think it's much better to vote for someone you can consistently, correctly scum read so you can get rid of a bad mayor early if needed. If someone is super confident in someone they can town read very early, that's fine. But if anyone is saying AM's vote was justified because she was town reading her that early, which is what it sounded like you were doing to me, than I have a problem with that.
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I wouldn't necessarily call AM's vote "justified", but I think her rationale can still be believable. Things can be both unjustified and honest. I don't have a strong view of the justification of the vote; one could argue that no vote is justified yet. But people are gonna vote.
 
WildZoo said:
Wait has shorty never been mayor??
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No 🥺

I haven't played that many games with mayors, I don't think?
genny tried to elect me in England but I discouraged it, I didn't want it in my noob game because I was a wolf, I ran for it in 10th anni but lost ... am I forgetting any others?
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
I will at least explain my interpretation of Stagg's view, though it's up to him to carry on the dialogue.

He isn't assessing you based on his own view of how well you read people (including him). He is concerned with how well you believe you read people (including him). If, hypothetically, you believe that you can read Stagg better than you can read shorty, then you should vote for him (or one of the other hypotheticals he named).

Just a translation.
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Okay but I've never claimed that in any of my games with him. The most I've said is that I have caught him as a wolf before. My readrate isn't 0% but it's also not >70% and often takes a while. Then it usually turns into the whole argument that I've never caught him so I feel this is wholly out of context and just trying to deter me from voting shorty.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Okay but I've never claimed that in any of my games with him. The most I've said is that I have caught him as a wolf before. My readrate isn't 0% but it's also not >70% and often takes a while. Then it usually turns into the whole argument that I've never caught him so I feel this is wholly out of context and just trying to deter me from voting shorty.
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That could be. I have no knowledge of how well you read each other.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Stagg. 2020 was three years ago. That was my point.

Can someone else explain this to me because I'm not understanding. Why does Stagg think that I should read him right when he thinks I can't and have never been able to read him be a more logical vote than me voting for someone I said I think I can read and that he has no experience with me misreading?
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JJJ's point was an accurate assessment of my view. Your first point here is fair. I still think it's weird that you believe Shorty is your easiest read, but I'm more interested about the subsequent conversation than your one statement.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Okay but I've never claimed that in any of my games with him. The most I've said is that I have caught him as a wolf before. My readrate isn't 0% but it's also not >70% and often takes a while. Then it usually turns into the whole argument that I've never caught him so I feel this is wholly out of context and just trying to deter me from voting shorty.
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This is the most fair assessment of our conversations I think I've ever seen. Are our therapy sessions together finally paying off?
 
@Stagg737, my impression now is that AM's part in this ongoing debate looks exactly like her town body, as least as I have seen it in limited games. Do you disagree (regardless of the origin of the conversation)?
 
Day 0 Electoral Tally:
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shorty (3) - shorty, AM, Dubz
mkg (1) - mkg
SAR/Penaut (1) - SAR
Stagg (1) - Stagg
 
supershorty said:
oh damn that reminded me

I am hardclaiming Black Goo and shan't be rescinding.

For legal reasons, this is a joke that will only be understood by those who played or modded CYO 3, but Imma do it anyway for my own entertainment.
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NO

I AM THE BLACK GOO
 
Zenge142 said:
Day 0 Electoral Tally:
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shorty (2) - shorty, AM, + Some sand... not sure it really counts but it's in the box
mkg (1) - mkg
SAR/Penaut (1) - SAR
Stagg (1) - Stagg
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Zenge this isn't right

You missed Dubz's vote.

smh
 
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