Med School affiliations with public hospitals

[VCMM414]

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I was wondering which other medical schools are closely affiliated with county hospitals much like Keck and Emory are with LA County and Grady, respectively. Is the UCSF - SF General Hospital partnership similar?

Is the term "county hospital" even correct? Or are they simply "public hospitals?" Or "community hospitals?"

I guess most medical schools are affiliated with one or two hospitals of this sort. I am just curious to see which schools actually use them as their primary clinical rotation facilities (again, like Keck and Emory).

Thanks in advance.

 

[surge]

Yes, the term county hospital is correct.

The biggest one I know is Parkland Memorial at UTSouthwestern in Dallas. It's amazing what students get to see and do there.

 

[cabruen]

The ones I know about are:

Rush Medical College -- Cook County Hospital (Chicago)
Boston University School of Medicine -- Boston Medical Center
Tulane Medical School -- Charity Hospital

Medical schools associated with private hospitals:
George Washington
Vanderbilt
Standford
St. Louis University
Washington University
New York University

 

[shadowboxer]

adding some more to the list:

University of Miami -- Jackson Memorial (1500+beds)
Mount Sinai --Elmhurst (in Queens)
NYU -- Bellevue (enough said)

 

[jtheater]

Stanford--Santa Clara Valley Med (i.e., San Jose County Hospital--considered a model county hospital)

 

[MD-2007-Gal]

Originally posted by shadowboxer
NYU -- Bellevue (enough said)

What do you mean by that? Many people not from NYC think that Bellevue is a psychiatric hospital, but it's not. It's a great medical center, and NYU students get excellent training, whether at Bellevue or at NYU Medical Center.

Most state schools are affiliated with public hospitals. For example, Kings County is the hospital for SUNY Downstate.

I think Yale Med has some affiliation with a public hospital, but its optional for students to do clinical clerkships there.

 

[Adcadet]

University of Minnesota med students do rotations at the following hospitals (at least, this is where I've seen med students or heard of med students rotating):

1. Hennepin County Medical Center (public; has a level 1 trauma center)
2. Regions Hospital (Ramsey County Hospital)
3. Fairview-University Medical Center (on campus)
4. Various other University medical clinics
5. Abbot Northwestern Hospital (private, in Minneapolis)
6. United and Children's Hospital (private, in St. Paul)
7. Minneapolis VA Medical Center

and I think there's at least one more I'm forgetting.

 

[Castro Viejo]

Originally posted by MD-2007-Gal
What do you mean by that? Many people not from NYC think that Bellevue is a psychiatric hospital, but it's not.

Most state schools are affiliated with public hospitals. For example, Kings County is the hospital for SUNY Downstate.

The reason why a lot of people think of Bellevue as a psych hospital is because, in the earlier and middle parts of the last century, Bellevue's psychiatric division was well-known. In fact, most of the city's municipal hospitals had very well-known psychiatric facilities (Bellevue and Kings County figure prominently).

But as with a lot of things in this city in medicine, that glorious honor fell as time passed, but a lot of old-time New Yorkers will remember Bellevue's reputation as a psychiatric facility. My generation of New Yorkers wouldn't routinely have a clue.

As for the public hospital affiliation, most medical schools in this country are affilaited with a public hospital in one form or another. The degree of this relationship, however, varies widely from school to school. Here in New York, both NYU and SUNY Downstate maintain very, very close relationships with their municipal hospitals (Bellevue and Kings County, respectively). What I mean by this is that many of the faculty at NYU and Downstate Medical Centers also have practices/run clinics over at the public institutions. Cornell whose public hospital is Jamaica Hospital in Queens, however, maintains a purely academic affiliation without much of the exchange that you'd see at NYU or Downstate. Same goes for Mount Sinai and Elmhurst Hospital (also in Queens).

Oh, and I should mention that New York Medical College and Metropolitan Hospital (in Manhattan) continue to have a very close relationship despite the school's move from the city in the late 1970s to suburbia.

 

[Resident Alien]

MetroHealth Medical center is affiliated with CWRU. Im not sure if the VA is public too, perhaps mikecwru could help out with that.

 

[panch]

another:
University of Washington - Harborview Medical Center

harborview was the nicest county hospital that i've seen, and a key place for neurology (a la "The Diagnosis of Stupor and Coma" by Plum and Posner; and the ER is run by a Neurology/EM doc).

i would highly recommend doing one or two rotations at a county hospital. i did my 3rd year surgery clerkship at cook county hospital in chicago, and it was an amazing experience (sure the huge amounts of scut sucked, but the patient population that you serve more than make up for it). the problems that you see in your patients are often at an advanced stage, and the pathology is incredible. [>40 million uninsured in this country; yet we're the richest in the world?]

not all county/"public" hospitals are dens of corruption and graft. and you will remember that experience for the rest of your life, even if you go on to do breast implants and bo-tox in southern cali 😉

 

[MacGyver]

I think Baylor and Harvard have the most affiliated hospitals... The TMC has something like 17 different hospitals and there are a similar number in boston wiht the Harvard name attached to them.

thats an incredible number of patients and cases collectively.

 

[rjhtamu]

There are 13 hospitals in the Texas Medical Center and Baylor splits them with University of Texas Houston. Baylor is affiliated with Ben Taub County Hospital and the Houston VA. Those are it's public hospitals. Private affiliations are with St. Luke's, The Methodist, and Texas Childrens'.

 

[tonem]

VCMM414,

To answer your original question...yes, UCSF does have that sort of relationship with SF General. It also has a similar relationship with Highland Hospital in Oakland which is the county hospital for Alameda County.

And just to clarify Valley Medical Center in San Jose is Santa Clara County's county hospital.

 

[Fah-Q]

Originally posted by rjhtamu
There are 13 hospitals in the Texas Medical Center and Baylor splits them with University of Texas Houston. Baylor is affiliated with Ben Taub County Hospital and the Houston VA. Those are it's public hospitals. Private affiliations are with St. Luke's, The Methodist, and Texas Childrens'.

Here is how the Houston hospital situation breaks down between UT and Baylor:

Baylor - VA, Ben Taub (county, level 1 trauma), St. Luke's (shared with UT), Methodist (private), Texas Children's.

UT - Memorial Hermann (semi-private, level 1 trauma), LBJ (county), St. Luke's (shared with Baylor), St. Joseph's (private, located downtown), Harris County Pyschiatric Center, Mental Sciences Institute (private)