Med school in England?

[dknykid1980]

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Hi all

I know that one can go to Ireland for med school and easily get residency over here although its 5 years(rcsi). Is there a 4 or less year program in England or ireland (particularly ENGLAND with the exception of oxford) that is a good med schoool that is reputed for having students get residencies in teh states ?

 

[leorl]

I can't really help you with England, although I've looked myself. Liverpool, Bristol, I think they have decent programs. Also other schools in the UK like Edinburgh and St. Andrews (Scotland). Maybe University of Manchester. However, I just wanted to caution you...UK schools are extremely hard for US students to get into - there are lots of restrictions (non-academic). So much trouble that after searching around for quite a while, it wasn't worth it 🙂, but I'm sure other people have had different experiences. They split into clinical and pre-clinical (like us) but it's more divided. Do some searching and emailing for yourself. Oxford is the only program I know of that might welcome foreign students, and that's a 6 year program unless you jump into their fast track. And...it's really hard to get in. Plus, another reason I factored it out was because England is very very expensive. the exchange rate is not favorable for us, living expenses and pretty much everything is really expensive.

But as far as English schools, I've heard that there won't really be a problem obtaining residencies or getting back into the states. You just have to do what everyone else does and do well on the boards, maybe some electives in the US.

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by leorl:
•However, I just wanted to caution you...UK schools are extremely hard for US students to get into - there are lots of restrictions (non-academic). •

what restrictions?

 

[leorl]

I'll look into this for you when I have time this weekend, I can't remember at the moment but gave up looking because of them. Um, one of the restrictions I remember....is that some of the UK schools flat out don't accept international students, or they do but you have to start all over again with the pre-clinical years - they don't have a graduate entry program. If I remember correctly, there might be only four British schools that have a Graduate Entry Program (Oxford being one of them). You should go to the British med site that's very similar to SDN. I don't have a link, but do a search for English med sites....i think it's called Bartlett's or something.

 

[Annette]

England has a very different educational system from the US. Most medical students do not complete a degree after what we call high school. They go straight into medical school (that is part of the reason it is 5 years). The 6th year is similar to an internship in the US. Also, the focus in medical school is on how to examine a patient, with little emphasis on differential diagnosis. However, there is a greater emphasis on evidence based medicine.

England is expanding the number of medical schools because they are desperate for physicians. They are highly unlikely to take an American student. If they take any foreign students, it is more likely that they will be from underserved countries.

Living in England is very expensive. Wonderful, but expensive. If you want training in England, consider doing an away rotation there, or third year from a caribbean school 😉

 

[Sita]

Originally posted by leorl:
• You should go to the British med site that's very similar to SDN. I don't have a link, but do a search for English med sites....i think it's called Bartlett's or something.•

This one??

Barts