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While my ego has certainly taken a hit academically, physically I feel better than I have in a long time
 
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My health has plummeted since being here, im always sick, lethargic, gaining weight no matter what I eat, getting weaker, depressed, doc told me I had high blood pressure Ive never had high blood pressure, I will probably end up like those 300 pound surgeons I see around campus.
 
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While my ego has certainly taken a hit academically, physically I feel better than I have in a long time
I know how you feel man. It didn't take long for me to have to accept I'm no longer the smartest guy in the room. I'm not saying I was neccesarily the smartest person in college either, however I easily managed to stay at the top of my class. But, man, I'm going to have to work my ass off during med school. It's not like I wasn't expecting that neccesarily, but it realy hits you once you actually have to experience it.
 

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My health has plummeted since being here, im always sick, lethargic, gaining weight no matter what I eat, getting weaker, depressed, doc told me I had high blood pressure Ive never had high blood pressure, I will probably end up like those 300 pound surgeons I see around campus.
Then are you eating right? Exercising? Apparently not. Surely you're not saying you have no time to eat healthy or to exercise 30 minutes a day.
 

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That photo is really inappropriate in this discussion and you should know better, esp. with what happened to Heath Ledger and due to the recent discussion of med student/physician suicide.
 
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My health has plummeted since being here, im always sick, lethargic, gaining weight no matter what I eat, getting weaker, depressed, doc told me I had high blood pressure Ive never had high blood pressure, I will probably end up like those 300 pound surgeons I see around campus.
I have never seen a 300 lb surgeon. And the surgeons I know are way busier than you.
 

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That photo is really inappropriate in this discussion and you should know better, esp. with what happened to Heath Ledger and due to the recent discussion of med student/physician suicide.
I've never actually seen that freeze frame before. *shudder* too many feels.
 

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That photo is really inappropriate in this discussion and you should know better, esp. with what happened to Heath Ledger and due to the recent discussion of med student/physician suicide.
You know better, in the context of the movie, it was the birth of chaos within Harvey Dent due to what The Joker said to him and the perceived choice he had.
 

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You know better, in the context of the movie, it was the birth of chaos within Harvey Dent due to what The Joker said to him and the perceived choice he had.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the context you were using it in.
 

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You know better, in the context of the movie, it was the birth of chaos within Harvey Dent due to what The Joker said to him and the perceived choice he had.
Yeah totally kind of like this thread!
 

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That photo is really inappropriate in this discussion and you should know better, esp. with what happened to Heath Ledger and due to the recent discussion of med student/physician suicide.
Eh, I say lighten up. Referring to a mainstream movie reference as inappropriate is pretty far fetched.


Med school is also destroying his posts.
Well this is just straight gold.
 

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Eh, I say lighten up. Referring to a mainstream movie reference as inappropriate is pretty far fetched.
I didn't say the movie reference is. I said the picture is.
 

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What the hell was I thinking coming here thinking people would understand, im gone.
 

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Just because people are real doesn't mean they aren't trolls ;)
No, he's been quite miserable since Day 1 (or maybe just venting). He isn't trolling in the true sense of the word.
 
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@EMDO2018 You need to chill. You're still adjusting. Once you get used to things, then you can sort out how to work out and the like. I'll give you my chili recipe if you want a good way to not die of starvation and minimize the time you have to spend cooking bro :D It's pretty epic
 

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@EMDO2018 You need to chill. You're still adjusting. Once you get used to things, then you can sort out how to work out and the like. I'll give you my chili recipe if you want a good way to not die of starvation and minimize the time you have to spend cooking bro :D It's pretty epic
It isn't starvation. He's eating very unhealthy food - hence his lethargy.
 

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No sure about 300lbs, but according to medscape, surgeons have the highest percentage of overweight doctors compared to other specialties. Perhaps their lack of free time and exhaustion force them eat whatever they find ready.

http://www.medscape.com/features/slideshow/lifestyle/2014/general-surgery#2
That surprises me but then again I was sharing a cinnamon roll with a vascular surgeon today in the OR lounge as we suffered another indeterminable delay. Neither of us are overweight but give us a few more days like today and you never know.
 

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Man...I remember that first semester...was a brutal adjustment and things like exercise and diet definitely took a hit. But, it's not that the time wasn't there, I was adjusting, inefficient and just wasting time cause I didn't know what I was doing. But, on some more manageable blocks, and once you have a better sense of what works for you, you might be surprised at the amount of free time you have for things like exercise and food. Gotta make them a priority though, it's easy to want to unwind on facebook or youtube after a long day of class or studying, but you gotta try and make the time for those things.

Give it a few more months and see how you do the next few blocks, you could just be taking a very hard course load your first semester too.
Also, talk to classmate, professors, some schools even have a learning specialist, get advice from them. You shouldn't have to give up sleep, diet and exercise, especially not in the first two years.
 

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I got a desk treadmill, approaching 200 miles walked in ~1.5 month period (1.5mph). Seriously I cannot sit for more than a few hours a day, no idea how kids go to class 8 hrs / day in m1 and 2.


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@EMDO2018 It's not uncommon to freak out at first but don't make yourself sick. First year I found myself going for a run around campus blasting my ipod after class most afternoons just to keep my sanity (between adjusting to the course load, new way of life and inevitable first year classmate drama). Find any kind of exercise you like (maybe just walking to class instead of driving or something like that) and don't make excuses--you have far more free time first and second year than you realize (and more than you will during clinicals) if you learn to manage your time. I know that's hard to do. Like someone already mentioned there's bound to be someone at your school (professor, adviser, etc) who can help with that.

Try to get good sleep as best you can. Routinely staying up till 3 a.m. to study when you have to wake up at 7 is not going to do you any favors.

Are you close with any of your classmates? I think there's a mentality at first that everyone is out to get each other but that's not the case (at least not everywhere). Try to reach out to them and I think you'll see you're not alone. As you all get to know each other better I think it will be easier having people to vent to or blow off steam with on the weekends.

That said med school can still be depressing for a lot of people. Seek help from your doctor or a counselor if you need it.
 

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I found this making the rounds on Reddit today. Surprisingly relevant to this topic.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2536446/Medical-student-dumped-chubby-professional-bodybuilder-ex-wants-back.html

I mean, I think we can learn something from this about how motivation works in this arena. Working out for health reasons may be enough to get started, but it won't sustain you, otherwise the med student in the article never would have got into this mess. I think that if you want to sustain a change, you need something deeper, like anger, hate, and revenge to drive you. I'll try to think of something to be angry at, it'll help I guess.


Are you close with any of your classmates? I think there's a mentality at first that everyone is out to get each other but that's not the case (at least not everywhere). Try to reach out to them and I think you'll see you're not alone. As you all get to know each other better I think it will be easier having people to vent to or blow off steam with on the weekends.

That said med school can still be depressing for a lot of people. Seek help from your doctor or a counselor if you need it.
There are good people and bad people in medical school. That said, sometimes, your friend may be someone else's enemy, and vice versa. Medical school can be a cliquey place.
 
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I found this making the rounds on Reddit today. Surprisingly relevant to this topic.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2536446/Medical-student-dumped-chubby-professional-bodybuilder-ex-wants-back.html

I mean, I think we can learn something from this about how motivation works in this arena. Working out for health reasons may be enough to get started, but it won't sustain you, otherwise the med student in the article never would have got into this mess. I think that if you want to sustain a change, you need something deeper, like anger, hate, and revenge to drive you. I'll try to think of something to be angry at, it'll help I guess.

There are good people and bad people in medical school. That said, sometimes, your friend may be someone else's enemy, and vice versa. Medical school can be a cliquey place.
Nah, I floss every day because it is healthy -- not out of hopes for revenge. I've done this for years, I missed one day.

I exercise everyday because it's good for my health (weight/BP/relax/etc) -- not out of hate. I go 6 days per week...for years.

I would think that emotional appeals for change are more transient.

Sometimes it is like you go out of your way to make unusual posts. Whatever the med student in the article experienced is n=1...not gospel.
 

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There are good people and bad people in medical school. That said, sometimes, your friend may be someone else's enemy, and vice versa. Medical school can be a cliquey place.
There are all types of people in medical school, just like any other profession. Cliques are no different with respect to frequency in med schools vs. other professions. There are some allopathic U.S. medical schools that have 350 students in their class. It's IMPOSSIBLE to make friends with all 350 people.
 

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Nah, I floss every day because it is healthy -- not out of hopes for revenge. I've done this for years, I missed one day.

I exercise everyday because it's good for my health (weight/BP/relax/etc) -- not out of hate. I go 6 days per week...for years.

I would think that emotional appeals for change are more transient.

Sometimes it is like you go out of your way to make unusual posts. Whatever the med student in the article experienced is n=1...not gospel.
Lel I never floss.

Will respond to the rest tomorrow.
 

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My health has plummeted since being here, im always sick, lethargic, gaining weight no matter what I eat, getting weaker, depressed, doc told me I had high blood pressure Ive never had high blood pressure, I will probably end up like those 300 pound surgeons I see around campus.
Hmmm time to start that amlodipine. And maybe hydrochlorothiazide, metformin, glipizide, atorvastatin, and sertraline.

Your nearest friendly PCP can help you out.
 

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I think that if you want to sustain a change, you need something deeper, like anger, hate, and revenge to drive you. I'll try to think of something to be angry at, it'll help I guess.
Life is not fantasy.

Anger, hate, and revenge may be great motivators for Inigo Montoya or Oberyn (sp?) Martell.

They are not consistently healthy or sustainable motivators in real life.
 

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Working out for health reasons may be enough to get started, but it won't sustain you, otherwise the med student in the article never would have got into this mess. I think that if you want to sustain a change, you need something deeper, like anger, hate, and revenge to drive you. I'll try to think of something to be angry at, it'll help I guess.
Are you purposefully trying to give people bad advice? Why don't you sit this one out, Nostradamus.

Using anger, hate, and revenge might work well in a video game, but not in real life. It can lead to serious mental problems, as well as to a student/resident who is unable to take constructive criticism, is unable to work in a hierarchy, etc. which faculty will pick up on easily when interpersonal issues start popping up.