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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by redsoxfan4, Apr 27, 2012.
Something similar happened to me freshman year, and it was basically a warning that, if I messed up again, action would be taken. Since you're on "probation," it sounds like your situation might be similar--don't mess up again, and you won't have any sort of permanent institutional action.
Medical schools don't specifically ask if you've ever been on housing probation, but you are required to report if any institutional actions have been taken against you. This may or may not qualify as an institutional action depending on things like whether it will disappear/be expunged, whether it is strictly a housing issue or whether it goes on your university disciplinary record, etc. The best person to answer these questions is probably your registrar, someone in student judicial affairs, or the res life coordinator. If you ask to see a copy of your student disciplinary record and they tell you you don't have one (or it's clear), then it's probably not something you need to report.
EDIT: Here is the relevant quote from the 2012 AMCAS instruction manual.
Basically, it comes down to whether a warning/probation counts as an "action" by your school, and the best people to answer that question are the people at your school. Good luck!
Definitely double check, but yeah, it sounds like it's something you would need to report. Considering that none of the complaints are for anything illegal (like providing alcohol to minors, etc.), it really doesn't seem like that big of a deal. I'm not an expert though, just a pre-med student, so hopefully someone else can weigh in. Just don't mess up again and explain the situation/what you've learned in the space given on AMCAS. People DO successfully get in with much bigger problems (like DUIs), so this certainly isn't the end of the world.
This is something that you must report. That said, it is NOT the sort of thing that will be a road block to your admisison to medical school but more like a speed bump through the application process.
Common road blocks, in my experience, include cheating and other forms of academic dishonesty as well as thefts. Much less common but very serious would be any kind of violent crime or anything involving sexual misconduct.
Common speed bumps are alcohol violations on campus, other infractions of dormatory rules (e.g. illegal use of a small applicance, noise), speeding tickets, disorderly conduct (carrying a drink in the street and, perhaps related, pissing in an allley), and academic probation that is remediated.
Misuse of the internet (illegal downloads, using someone else's account for mischief), arrests for small amounts of pot, and driving while intoxicated could go either way and are often entail significant debate by a committee.
really? It's probably a generational thing. I'd bet that next generation it would be in the same category as pissing in an alley.
Illegal downloads are the norm. No college student pays for their entire 30+ GB music collection.
That's the generational thing... the adcom members who I was with on the "Institutional Action review" subcommittee were in the rage of 45-75 years old. It wasn't quite, "What is this internetz thing?" but close to it. Thus it causes debate and can go either way depending on personal viewpoints regarding the "crime".
Wow, really? You'd think that would screw you out of every school, everywhere. I guess if the DUI is in the past, and you've been a model citizen since, they can (hesitantly) look past it.
No college student seems to pay for ANYTHING. Movies games music....
More or less. If you have any other issues you haven't mentioned, or are leaving out additional details about this fiasco, it may be a big deal, but in isolation, they'll read your explanation, shrug, and move on.
haha.. I was on reslife
I do wish you the best. Think you're taking good action by talking to the dean of students. If he can't do anything, at least he can give you some direction.
Blowing a 0.08 at a road block on the way home from Thanksgiving dinner, (no crash, no injuries, etc) could be looked at by some adcom members as "Unlucky bastard. It could have just as easily happened to me." Again, it could create considerable debate and not be a cut and dried at every school.
Perhaps you are on double secret probation.
No adcom will overlook a felony conviction. Except Carribean.
Send me a pm. I have some experience applying (successfully!) with this sort of thing.