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Medical Spine Fellowship for non-PM&R/non-Anesthesia

Discussion in 'Pain Medicine' started by Buster Douglas, May 6, 2007.

  1. Buster Douglas

    Buster Douglas Unregistered User 7+ Year Member

    May 22, 2003
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  3. lobelsteve

    lobelsteve SDN Lifetime Donor Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

    May 30, 2005
    Canton GA
    Following a medical degree at the Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Dr. Mazanec completed an internship in Internal Medicine at The Strong Memorial Hospital, University of Rochester, Rochester, NY, where he also completed his residency. He then completed a Special Fellowship in Rheumatic and Immunologic Disease at the Cleveland Clinic. Dr. Mazanec's specialty interests include evaluation and management of back pain, osteoporosis and bone disease and adult rheumatology.

    Hocus pocus.
  4. resurgeon


    Nov 16, 2007
    This is absolutely amazing. The amount of "fellowships" devoted to the spine. I guess the economic windfall that is showering pain management will be further diluted.
  5. Tenesma

    Tenesma Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    i don't know anything about what is going on at Cleveland Clinic - but Nagy Mekhail must be going nuts with this!!!

    basically this is a way for the spine surgeons to have complete control of spine injections/procedures thus bypassing the pain department - i wonder if there is a rift that led to this or what the underlying issues are

    i know that at a few large teaching facilities the spine surgeons got tired of requesting ESIs from anesthesia/pain because of the 2-4 month delay to be seen for consultation with the then obligatory delay in getting the procedure the surgeon thought was needed..... instead they increasingly turned to interventional radiology to do their bidding - but found out the hard way that IR just does the injections and doesn't really take the patients phone calls/complaints etc/med prescriptions - so this must sound like the perfect deal for the spine surgeons ----

    unbelievable... it just goes to show that spine surgeons can wield a lot of control --- unless of course you bypass them and convince the PCPs to send all spine patients to you first, and that you will decide whether spine surgery eval is indicated...

    that is what i did with my PCPs and the spine surgeons are coming to me instead of the other way around.
  6. Finally M3

    Finally M3 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Jun 27, 2002
    Not to be a cynic, but this differs from what Anesthesia is trying to do to PM&R how?

    *duck and cover*
  7. Kwijibo

    Kwijibo Member 10+ Year Member

    Jan 21, 2005
    This is the CC's Spine Departments way of sticking it to the pain management department. The Cleveland Clinic is a highly political place and this is just another power struggle that is going on within the institution.
    When I was a fellow the main guy who did injections for the PMR spine department was allowed to come into one of the pain fluoro rooms and do procedures 1/2 day a week. He would do 5 transforaminals a morning at 45min a pop, while the 3 pain procedure rooms would be churning out 15-20 more complex procedures each. The PMR residents used to rotate through the pain department and one complained because she thought she didn't have to see patients and only do procedures and it started an arguement between Mazanec and Mekhail and Nagy kicked the PMR fellows and the PMR attending out of the pain department.
    I do not think that this place is accredited but I do think it would be an good PMR interventional spine program, especially compared to what is out there. You will get good exposure to interventional spine procedures.
  8. lobelsteve

    lobelsteve SDN Lifetime Donor Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

    May 30, 2005
    Canton GA
    Is Rus DeMico still there? I'm pretty sure he went to the fellowship there before PMR had accredited fellowships (2003). Then I thought he was sticking around as faculty... Good guy, haven't heard from him in a while, but he'd have the right input on the situation....
  9. Finally M3

    Finally M3 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Jun 27, 2002
    Yes, he's the associate program director.
  10. ampaphb

    ampaphb Interventional Spine 10+ Year Member

    May 13, 2007
    New Orleans, LA
    Santhosh Thomas is a physatrist who trained at the Florida Spine Institute the same year Josh Rirrenberg of RIC did.

    He headed up the PASSOR interventional workshops last year, and gave a number of presentations at the AAPM&R in Boston this year.

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