Medical vs Law vs Business, in which profession does undergrad matter most?

[Protagonistic]

By undergrad I mean undergrad school and prestige.

So obviously we have had debates about how much undergrad prestige matters in med school admissions but there are people on here who are well informed about other professions.

In which does undergrad prestige matter the most or basically means everything?

I will vote Business since I heard a lot of top firms on wall street don't hire a person who obtained their degree from a school ranked outside top 50.

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[Ignatius M.D.]

By undergrad I mean undergrad school and prestige.

So obviously we have had debates about how much undergrad prestige matters in med school admissions but there are people on here who are well informed about other professions.

In which does undergrad prestige matter the most or basically means everything?

I will vote Business since I heard a lot of top firms on wall street don't hire a person who obtained their degree from a school ranked outside top 50.

For law school graduates, the name on their degree matters A LOT. For undergrad it is definitely business. (I hit "law" on the poll thinking law school, not undergrad)

 

[Narmerguy]

business. easy.

not even close. really.

+1 Not close

 

[Protagonistic]

business. easy.

not even close. really.

So let me get this straight, if you don't have a bachelors from harvard, you won't be allowed to work at Goldman Sachs?

 

[Protagonistic]

No, that is not yet quite straight.

Oh okay, so they are lenient and may let a guy from Columbia or Cornell get a job too, right?

 

[Frazier]

Oh okay, so they are lenient and may let a guy from Columbia or Cornell get a job too, right?

Yea, it's all straightened out now.

 

[Geekchick921]

Dear sweet baby Jesus in the tiny, tiny manger, you are like a dog with a bone.

 

[Protagonistic]

Dear sweet baby Jesus in the tiny, tiny manger, you are like a dog with a bone.

and in comes miss buzzkill =)

 

[aSagacious]

Yeah, I misread the question and voted too quickly (for medicine). I thought the prompt read, "which profession does undergrad (performance/GPA) matter most?" I would change my vote to business after having reread the prompt.

 

[Protagonistic]

Yeah, I misread the question and voted too quickly (for medicine). I thought the prompt read, "which profession does undergrad (performance/GPA) matter most?" I would change my vote to business after having reread the prompt.

Yea, I couldn't fit prestige on there, my fault.

Not really.

 

[RelicLTD]

I messed up too... Clicked turtles... was blinded by all else.

 

[Protagonistic]

I messed up too... Clicked turtles... was blinded by all else.

you must be a woman


just jkin!

nah not rly, ur a woman

 

[Frazier]

I messed up too... Clicked turtles... was blinded by all else.

you must be a woman


just jkin!

nah not rly, ur a woman

It's time to set the record straight:

RelicLTD, are you a woman?

 

[Big Dog]

To get into a top B-school, one needs excellent work experience. And to get that consulting gig at McKinsey (or Goldman Sachs internship) straight out of undergrad, it's critical to go to a top undergrad college. McKinsey & GS et al don't recruit from SW Podunk State.

 

[HawaiiDoc]

Looks like a pretty tight race between Business and Turtles

 

[Sesom]

Oh come on, the answer is turtles...

 

[Protagonistic]

To get into a top B-school, one needs excellent work experience. And to get that consulting gig at McKinsey (or Goldman Sachs internship) straight out of undergrad, it's critical to go to a top undergrad college. McKinsey & GS et al don't recruit from SW Podunk State.

So wait, is it possible to get it after undergrad? Like what if one goes to a well ranked business school?

 

[Big Dog]

...if you are asking if attending Wharton makes it easy to go directly to a top business school the answer is Yes, but only with significant work experience.
The point is that unlike med & law, top B-schools require significant work experience. Wharton and Harvard rarely accept 22 year olds. (Five years as a Starbucks barrista won't cut it.) And to get "significant" work experience, it helps to have attended a top undergrad.

 

[Fahrenheit 45T]

So wait, is it possible to get it after undergrad? Like what if one goes to a well ranked business school?

well unlike medicine and law, to be successful at business you don't need an MBA or other graduate training. Undergrad is important for business because it can 1) help determine where you get your first job and 2) is a major networking opportunity. Someone at an ivy league school will be viewed as more favorable to top jobs like McKinsey consulting or a mint banking job, and will be around other very smart individuals (and be connected to successful/rich alums) to network with.

it is very rare for someone to get into a top MBA program without a few years work experience (the big exception i can think of is MD/MBA students straight out of undergrad). But starting out as a McKinsey consulted would drastically increase your chances at a Harvard MBA 2+ years down the road.

TL;DR : no, people don't get an MBA right out of undergrad unless its a diploma mill or as a combined degree option.

 

[gettheleadout]

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If you don't transfer to Harvard right now you will never amount to anything at all ever in life ever.

Is that what you want to hear?

 

[patel2]

porn

 

[bookfreak89]

So let me get this straight, if you don't have a bachelors from harvard, you won't be allowed to work at Goldman Sachs?

Top Wall Street firms recruit at top universities. Now it is more difficult, but back when the economy was (really) good, I've heard that Ivies sent 50-70% (or some ridiculous amount) of their undergrads to Wall Street. At that time, getting a job there was almost as easy as breathing.

To get into a top B-school, one needs excellent work experience. And to get that consulting gig at McKinsey (or Goldman Sachs internship) straight out of undergrad, it's critical to go to a top undergrad college. McKinsey & GS et al don't recruit from SW Podunk State.

This. If you're talking about business school, you need significant work experience. If you go look at a list of the current students at top MBA programs, they all had extensive work (and leadership) experience at a company. You'll see statements like: "helped to increase productivity by 9000%" or "secured crazy clients to help boost company profits" and other boring stuff like that.

 

[Kekeirda]

for law school graduates, the name on their degree matters a lot. For undergrad it is definitely business. (i hit "law" on the poll thinking law school, not undergrad)

+1

 

[Protagonistic]

well unlike medicine and law, to be successful at business you don't need an MBA or other graduate training. Undergrad is important for business because it can 1) help determine where you get your first job and 2) is a major networking opportunity. Someone at an ivy league school will be viewed as more favorable to top jobs like McKinsey consulting or a mint banking job, and will be around other very smart individuals (and be connected to successful/rich alums) to network with.

it is very rare for someone to get into a top MBA program without a few years work experience (the big exception i can think of is MD/MBA students straight out of undergrad). But starting out as a McKinsey consulted would drastically increase your chances at a Harvard MBA 2+ years down the road.

TL;DR : no, people don't get an MBA right out of undergrad unless its a diploma mill or as a combined degree option.

thanks

 

[MetabolismASE]

Business

 

[eli20]

For law school graduates, the name on their degree matters A LOT. For undergrad it is definitely business. (I hit "law" on the poll thinking law school, not undergrad)

Woops... me too.