Meeting people and/or making friends in med school

[marcus_aurelius]

I like the way you think Marcus Aurelius.

i love the reaction i get when i'm talking to a hot girl at the gym and she asks me what i do and i reply, "med student."

her entire face just lights up and sparkles and she replies, "u're going to be a doktore."

after that i could tell her i had feline syphilis from getting overly intimate with my aunt's pet cheetah and she'd still be stuck daydreaming over the word "DOKTORE."....at this point u know she is the equivalent of an interior decorating major or some b.s. like that.

u tell a "professional" girl that same thing and they ask....

"what school do you go to?"
"what kind of doctor do you want to be?"

if she's not a med student and you tell her "psychiatrist training at Poo Bear school of medicine" she'll say, "oh"

if she's not a med student and u tell her "Harvard orthopedics" she gets a tiny orgasm

if she is a med student and u tell her"Harvard, I want to go into orthopedics" she calls you a gunner and walks away.

does this explain why we choose the hot aerobics instructor?

Cheers to the hot aerobics instructor for making the less than average medical student feel like he's SUPERMAN on steroids!!!!

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[QofQuimica]

Yeah, and when people ask me what my major is, I say chem and most responses are something on the order of "that's hard!" and the conversation ends. I swear, next time I'm just going to say communications.

Ha! Try telling them you're getting your PhD in chemistry, and then going to med school.

 

[tupac_don]

i love the reaction i get when i'm talking to a hot girl at the gym and she asks me what i do and i reply, "med student."

her entire face just lights up and sparkles and she replies, "u're going to be a doktore."

after that i could tell her i had feline syphilis from getting overly intimate with my aunt's pet cheetah and she'd still be stuck daydreaming over the word "DOKTORE."....at this point u know she is the equivalent of an interior decorating major or some b.s. like that.

u tell a "professional" girl that same thing and they ask....

"what school do you go to?"
"what kind of doctor do you want to be?"

if she's not a med student and you tell her "psychiatrist training at Poo Bear school of medicine" she'll say, "oh"

if she's not a med student and u tell her "Harvard orthopedics" she gets a tiny orgasm

if she is a med student and u tell her"Harvard, I want to go into orthopedics" she calls you a gunner and walks away.

does this explain why we choose the hot aerobics instructor?

Cheers to the hot aerobics instructor for making the less than average medical student feel like he's SUPERMAN on steroids!!!!

Bringing an aerobics instructor to a doktore is like bringing pigeons to a cat on a silver platter

 

[diosa428]

I doubt they are intimidated by you perse. I mean I tell people I am in med school, I have a doctorate as well, some people say great some people are at a loss of words. So what you are saying is that girls are reacting that way b/c they are initimidated of my brains??? Have you considered that people just respond like that generally, not that they are intimidated by you perse. I don't think that any guy is intimidated by a girl with education, its more that highly educated women, "don't want to settle" and are highly choosy.

I don't think many guys would care if they called the shots even though their wife is a doctor. Problem is that generally highly educated women typically look for someone who is more successful than them or somebody where they can wear the pants in the relationship. And I think that most guys won't allow that, so hence the prevailing sense that men are "intimidated". Its more that most men won't allow that to happen. Like someone said here, why have an ugly doctor wife who's gonna nag you, when you can have a hot aerobics instructor, who's gonna tell all her hot friends you are a doctor. Hmmm tough choice here.

Ummm so you're saying that girls aren't intimidated by you? I bet some of them are. Keep in mind that most people DON'T go out and get a PhD or an MD after college, so someone who has both probably is intimidating to some one else who majored in american studies and works at some job she could have had straight out of high school. It really depends upon who you're talking to and where you are. For example, the boys at my college are not intimidated by smart women b/c they're surrounded by them. However, only about half of the people I went to high school with even WENT to college. And most of them certainly aren't shooting for higher professional degrees. So the people that I interact with at home are different than the people I interact with at school and therefore have different reactions to my educational plans.

I think that, to some point, everyone agrees with what happydays and I are saying - it's just that we're all calling it different things. We're calling it "intimidated" and you're saying that guys don't want a wife who wears the pants in the relationship. Either way, (at least some) guys don't want to date girls who have more of an education/will make more money than they will. Guys ARE insecure about this. My exboyfriend hated that I got better grades than he did, and my friend's boyfriend is convinced that she's going to leave him and go for some other doctor when she gets to medical school. So maybe it's not "intimidation" but there are definitely issues there that don't necessarily hold true if it's the other way around.

 

[unfrozencaveman]

I think to an extent the "he's intimidated by me" justification is just a good way of getting around my real problem of being hideously unattractive. I use it liberally. But, I will say I'm surprised to find that to an extent it's actually freaking true. Or, there is some reason guys dislike the idea of med school in particular. Sample size may be small, but here are some recent data from my dating endeavors:

Date One:

Me: I work in consulting, but I'm starting medical school in the fall.
Him: Ahh. Is that for sure? Can you get out of it?

Date Two:

Me: I work in consulting, but I'm starting medical school in the fall.
Him: Ahh. I hate doctors.

Date Three (tonight, control):

Me: I work in consulting.


I will report back. Clearly this is indicative that I date terrible idiots, which I do. They always trick me into the first date somehow. Luckily second dates have not been a major issue.

 

[Law2Doc]

What I was saying is that it started with "the bachelor" and not the other way around. They only added the bachelorette when they broke up. People like seeing girls fighting over a rich guy and not guys fighting over a rich girl.

Not to belabor this point, but your history is a bit off (undermining your subsequent claim ). The first bachelorette (Trista) was not a victim of break up with the first bachelor. She was the runner up - never got the ring. The one that got selected ended up with a break-up and no TV show. Only the most recent bachelorette was a victim of break up after being chosen by the previous bachelor. Somebody had to be first, and to suggest it was sexist to start with a bachelor and not a bachelorette is a bit of a stretch.

 

[Law2Doc]

I think to an extent the "he's intimidated by me" justification is just a good way of getting around my real problem of being hideously unattractive. I use it liberally. But, I will say I'm surprised to find that to an extent it's actually freaking true. Or, there is some reason guys dislike the idea of med school in particular. Sample size may be small, but here are some recent data from my dating endeavors:

Date One:

Me: I work in consulting, but I'm starting medical school in the fall.
Him: Ahh. Is that for sure? Can you get out of it?

Date Two:

Me: I work in consulting, but I'm starting medical school in the fall.
Him: Ahh. I hate doctors.

Date Three (tonight, control):

Me: I work in consulting.


I will report back. Clearly this is indicative that I date terrible idiots, which I do. They always trick me into the first date somehow. Luckily second dates have not been a major issue.

You should just tell them you are planning to go to med school "if my porn career doesn't take off first". Should result in a second date every time.

 

[happydays]

Not to belabor this point, but your history is a bit off (undermining your subsequent claim ). The first bachelorette (Trista) was not a victim of break up with the first bachelor. She was the runner up - never got the ring. The one that got selected ended up with a break-up and no TV show. Only the most recent bachelorette was a victim of break up after being chosen by the previous bachelor. Somebody had to be first, and to suggest it was sexist to start with a bachelor and not a bachelorette is a bit of a stretch.

I don't remember the details, but The Bachelor was the original and it's centered on a successful guy. Even when the bachelorette was introduced, it was NOT centered on a successful girl; it was centered on a trophy wife. Point being: it's more acceptable to have a successful guy looking for a trophy wife. Successful women are not appealing.

 

[Law2Doc]

I don't remember the details, but The Bachelor was the original and it's centered on a successful guy. Even when the bachelorette was introduced, it was NOT centered on a successful girl; it was centered on a trophy wife. Point being: it's more acceptable to have a successful guy looking for a trophy wife. Successful women are not appealing.

She chose and married a fireman if I recall -- hardly became a trophy wife for a high powered guy (kind of the reverse, actually).

 

[unfrozencaveman]

You should just tell them you are planning to go to med school "if my porn career doesn't take off first". Should result in a second date every time.

Isn't that implied when I say I work in "consulting"?

 

[happydays]

She chose and married a fireman if I recall -- hardly became a trophy wife for a high powered guy (kind of the reverse, actually).

She is still a Trophy wife, even if the winner wasn't rich.

The point is that the show "The Bachelor" is about getting a trophy wife.

 

[Law2Doc]

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[Law2Doc]

She is still a Trophy wife, even if the winner wasn't rich.

The point is that the show "The Bachelor" is about getting a trophy wife.

Then trophy wife doesn't mean what you think it does. If you do eg. a google search, you will see that the term trophy wife universally refers to an attractive, young wife married to either an older or more affluent man. It is also rarely used to refer to a first wife of such man.

 

[Ypo.]

Are guys 'seriously' having a debate over the Bachelor?

 

[marcus_aurelius]

Ummm so you're saying that girls aren't intimidated by you? I bet some of them are. Keep in mind that most people DON'T go out and get a PhD or an MD after college, so someone who has both probably is intimidating to some one else who majored in american studies and works at some job she could have had straight out of high school. It really depends upon who you're talking to and where you are. For example, the boys at my college are not intimidated by smart women b/c they're surrounded by them. However, only about half of the people I went to high school with even WENT to college. And most of them certainly aren't shooting for higher professional degrees. So the people that I interact with at home are different than the people I interact with at school and therefore have different reactions to my educational plans.

I think that, to some point, everyone agrees with what happydays and I are saying - it's just that we're all calling it different things. We're calling it "intimidated" and you're saying that guys don't want a wife who wears the pants in the relationship. Either way, (at least some) guys don't want to date girls who have more of an education/will make more money than they will. Guys ARE insecure about this. My exboyfriend hated that I got better grades than he did, and my friend's boyfriend is convinced that she's going to leave him and go for some other doctor when she gets to medical school. So maybe it's not "intimidation" but there are definitely issues there that don't necessarily hold true if it's the other way around.

Ok, you win, I think smart girls are usually extremely annoying and would not like to date another medical student or female physician for as long as my heart is beating....call it intimidation or whatever, i prefer the term irritation...yes, they are irritating.

i would like to eventually get married to an average intelligence hot girl who will get all the housework done, take care of my kids and fix me dinner. To put icing on top of the cake, i will get a prenup so that if she is a gold digger, she wont get any money and if she irritates me too much, i can return her and get another one.

i want a lady in the street and a freak in the bed.

("Shake that" by Eminem plays in the background.)

P.S. your friend WILL leave her bf to trade up to a richer man in med schl...just wait, you'll see.

-Mr. Chivalry

 

[happydays]

Are guys 'seriously' having a debate over the Bachelor?

Ummmm... Well, I really don't have much going on right now. This meaningless argument is taking my mind off other stressful things. Plus, I don't have a TV to kill time. yeah, enough said.

 

[happydays]

Then trophy wife doesn't mean what you think it does. If you do eg. a google search, you will see that the term trophy wife universally refers to an attractive, young wife married to either an older or more affluent man. It is also rarely used to refer to a first wife of such man.

Ok, not a trophy wife by that definition.

My point is that those shows focus on HOT but not so successful girls getting "the man of their dreams," not a hot successful girl getting the "man of her dreams." These shows show that the most desirable women are those with average intelligence.

 

[happydays]

Ok, you win, I think smart girls are usually extremely annoying and would not like to date another medical student or female physician for as long as my heart is beating....call it intimidation or whatever, i prefer the term irritation...yes, they are irritating.

i would like to eventually get married to an average intelligence hot girl who will get all the housework done, take care of my kids and fix me dinner. To put icing on top of the cake, i will get a prenup so that if she is a gold digger, she wont get any money and if she irritates me too much, i can return her and get another one.

i want a lady in the street and a freak in the bed.

("Shake that" by Eminem plays in the background.)

P.S. your friend WILL leave her bf to trade up to a richer man in med schl...just wait, you'll see.

-Mr. Chivalry

How do you know intelligent women aren't "freaks" in the bed if you assume you'll be too "annoyed" (if that's the term you're willing to use) by them to see what they're really like?

 

[marcus_aurelius]

How do you know intelligent women aren't "freaks" in the bed if you assume you'll be too "annoyed" (if that's the term you're willing to use) by them to see what they're really like?

my annoyance radar usually gets turned on within the first 5 mins of conversation. sometimes the radar turns on after as long as an hour, but so far, it has always turned on.

most girls i found i would date have already been taken prior to medical school.

 

[marcus_aurelius]

How do you know intelligent women aren't "freaks" in the bed if you assume you'll be too "annoyed" (if that's the term you're willing to use) by them to see what they're really like?

if its any consolation to anyone, i generally dont like the guys in med schl either

i feel out of place in med schl, it might not be just the girl issue. i'm more of the quiet laid back type. dont care what my neighbor got on his exam, how much anyone else is studying, what the bald guy in front of me did over the wknd....if Susie Q honored the exam, i'd give her a pat on the back to a job well done.

med schl seems like the "Planet of the Egos" and each ego is at war with the others....i just dont really care for it. when i say irritating....the guys are just as irritating as the girls, dont get me wrong...on avg they're both equally annoying. i'd say half of the physicians on rounds are pretty annoying too and so are half of the nurses etc....the others are REALLY cool, kind of a hit or miss type thing...like on "Scrubs". u can practice good medicine without being an arrogant a-hole.....sadly i feel the media, salaries etc promote such behavior.

there are the few that are chill and i've made friends with them. havent found the right girl yet, and realistically probably wont find this type of girl in med schl, law schl etc. not only that, but when i'm done with training i'll be 32, if i meet a girl in med schl, chances are she'll be around that age too...the biological clock ticking, if things get serious the pressures on to pop out the children....haha....but seriously, guys are fortunate enough to marry younger...if i find a 25 yr old then, i can have some fun with my money b4 having to get all serious....but what's wrong with a little fun now right?

just want to get a job in a chill specialty, work, have some fun with the gf/wife, sit on my recliner couch and pet my dog, go out on the lake on weekends....see my gf in her string bikini...u know.

if u are a female med student, someone is bound to date you...i think u're worrying to much about the dating thing, u'll find someone.

like i said, i think i'm the odd-ball in the herd.

 

[fun8stuff]

It's worthless to argue. Very few guys will dump you because you are going to medical school. To say guy's will feel somewhat inferior to you is just not the way things are nowadays. Given, back in your grandma's days before the woman's rights movement, this may have been true. Perhaps, this is where this rumor came from. However, most of us guys have grown up in a world where it is acceptable for woman to be successful- a lot of us probably even have mom's who have careers. These are the facts.

You may have a harder time dating because you are generally more busy with your school work, don't like going out clubbing/drinking/wearing slutty outfits, and/or have too high of standards. If you have a personality that is incompatible with the average guy, then you probably would have a hard time dating guys regardless of whether you were going to medical school. Most girls (and even guys for that matter) who say they have a hard time dating because people don't like the fact they are medical students, have probably always had a hard time dating.

 

[Ypo.]

It's worthless to argue. Very few guys will dump you because you are going to medical school. To say guy's will feel somewhat inferior to you is just not the way things are nowadays. Given, back in your grandma's days before the woman's rights movement, this may have been true. Perhaps, this is where this rumor came from. However, most of us guys have grown up in a world where it is acceptable for woman to be successful- a lot of us probably even have mom's who have careers. These are the facts.

You may have a harder time dating because you are generally more busy with your school work, don't like going out clubbing/drinking/wearing slutty outfits, and/or have too high of standards. If you have a personality that is incompatible with the average guy, then you probably would have a hard time dating guys regardless of whether you were going to medical school. Most girls (and even guys for that matter) who say they have a hard time dating because people don't like the fact they are medical students, have probably always had a hard time dating.

Word.

 

[Law2Doc]

It's worthless to argue. Very few guys will dump you because you are going to medical school. To say guy's will feel somewhat inferior to you is just not the way things are nowadays. Given, back in your grandma's days before the woman's rights movement, this may have been true. Perhaps, this is where this rumor came from. However, most of us guys have grown up in a world where it is acceptable for woman to be successful- a lot of us probably even have mom's who have careers. These are the facts.

You may have a harder time dating because you are generally more busy with your school work, don't like going out clubbing/drinking/wearing slutty outfits, and/or have too high of standards. If you have a personality that is incompatible with the average guy, then you probably would have a hard time dating guys regardless of whether you were going to medical school. Most girls (and even guys for that matter) who say they have a hard time dating because people don't like the fact they are medical students, have probably always had a hard time dating.

Agree 100%. Especially about the slutty outfits -- we need more of those in med school. Would lead to better lecture attendance.

 

[gujuDoc]

It's worthless to argue. Very few guys will dump you because you are going to medical school. To say guy's will feel somewhat inferior to you is just not the way things are nowadays. Given, back in your grandma's days before the woman's rights movement, this may have been true. Perhaps, this is where this rumor came from. However, most of us guys have grown up in a world where it is acceptable for woman to be successful- a lot of us probably even have mom's who have careers. These are the facts.

You may have a harder time dating because you are generally more busy with your school work, don't like going out clubbing/drinking/wearing slutty outfits, and/or have too high of standards. If you have a personality that is incompatible with the average guy, then you probably would have a hard time dating guys regardless of whether you were going to medical school. Most girls (and even guys for that matter) who say they have a hard time dating because people don't like the fact they are medical students, have probably always had a hard time dating.

Agree with this post completely. I can't speak for american culture, but as far as the desi people I know, its generally the girl who wants someone who is equally as educated as them. A lot of Americans, I gather, don't really care about that so much as the compatibility issue.

Its really case relative, based on one's religious beliefs, cultural beliefs, etc.

 

[etudiante04]

It's worthless to argue. Very few guys will dump you because you are going to medical school. To say guy's will feel somewhat inferior to you is just not the way things are nowadays. Given, back in your grandma's days before the woman's rights movement, this may have been true. Perhaps, this is where this rumor came from. However, most of us guys have grown up in a world where it is acceptable for woman to be successful- a lot of us probably even have mom's who have careers. These are the facts.

You may have a harder time dating because you are generally more busy with your school work, don't like going out clubbing/drinking/wearing slutty outfits, and/or have too high of standards. If you have a personality that is incompatible with the average guy, then you probably would have a hard time dating guys regardless of whether you were going to medical school. Most girls (and even guys for that matter) who say they have a hard time dating because people don't like the fact they are medical students, have probably always had a hard time dating.

Well said.

 

[tupac_don]

How do you know intelligent women aren't "freaks" in the bed if you assume you'll be too "annoyed" (if that's the term you're willing to use) by them to see what they're really like?

Some are no doubt, but they have such high standard, that you have better chance passing a background check as an Afhgani wanting to work for CIA, than getting in her pants.

 

[THP]

The real reason guys don't want to date girls in med school . . .

In order to get into medical school you have to be somewhat neurotic and very competitive. Guys are not attracted to overly competitive neurotic women.

 

[coffeeluver]

The real reason guys don't want to date girls in med school . . .

In order to get into medical school you have to be somewhat neurotic and very competitive. Guys are not attracted to overly competitive neurotic women.

Just wondering, how would guys define overly competitive and neurotic? I like to maintain a certain level of "excellence" when I do things, meaning I like to put effort into what I do, does this classify as neurotic?

 

[amyliz]

P.S. your friend WILL leave her bf to trade up to a richer man in med schl...just wait, you'll see.

-Mr. Chivalry

This is starting to remind me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine dates this guy who went to med school but never took his boards...so she helps him study so he can pass the boards and be a doctor, and he immediately dumps her, saying that he always told himself that once he became a doctor he'd dump whoever he was with and get a hotter girlfriend.

I love Seinfeld.

 

[coffeeluver]

Agree 100%. Especially about the slutty outfits -- we need more of those in med school. Would lead to better lecture attendance.

I'm all cool with slutty outfits, but people always talk in med school. You show a little skin and you end up as the topic of conversation for weeks.

 

[diosa428]

I'm all cool with slutty outfits, but people always talk in med school. You show a little skin and you end up as the topic of conversation for weeks.

Huh. Maybe I should erase drunken bar-dancing from my plans...

 

[coffeeluver]

Huh. Maybe I should erase drunken bar-dancing from my plans...

Yeah, cross AOA off your list if you do.

 

[tupac_don]

Just wondering, how would guys define overly competitive and neurotic? I like to maintain a certain level of "excellence" when I do things, meaning I like to put effort into what I do, does this classify as neurotic?

I dont' think its neccessarily that guys care if women are competitive perse. But that neuroticity and competitiveness spills into everyday life and women will start demanding things done a certain way and nagging. That's when comp/neuroticism becomes a problem. I think comp women will just demand more from the guy, and if they are willing to fall in line that's great for them if not it's a recipe for disaster.

 

[Ypo.]

I dont' think its neccessarily that guys care if women are competitive perse. But that neuroticity and competitiveness spills into everyday life and women will start demanding things done a certain way and nagging. That's when comp/neuroticism becomes a problem. I think comp women will just demand more from the guy, and if they are willing to fall in line that's great for them if not it's a recipe for disaster.

Well, maybe if they did the darn dishes on their own we wouldn't have to nag!

Seriously, can someone explain the typical lack of cleaning effort that I see in heterosexual males? Do you guys considering it degrading to clean? Do you not care if your house smells bad, or care about being in a pleasant environment?

and btw-I'm not saying you guys are all like that.

 

[Brainsucker]

Well, maybe if they did the darn dishes on their own we wouldn't have to nag!

Seriously, can someone explain the typical lack of cleaning effort that I see in heterosexual males? Do you guys considering it degrading to clean? Do you not care if your house smells bad, or care about being in a pleasant environment?

and btw-I'm not saying you guys are all like that.

Smell? What smell?

I do have a floor. It's over there, under the underwear.

 

[fun8stuff]

Well, maybe if they did the darn dishes on their own we wouldn't have to nag!

Seriously, can someone explain the typical lack of cleaning effort that I see in heterosexual males? Do you guys considering it degrading to clean? Do you not care if your house smells bad, or care about being in a pleasant environment?

and btw-I'm not saying you guys are all like that.

i have a big problem with this... drives my fiance crazy. It bothers me that I have a hard time picking up after myself... it really does. I think I have improved a little. It is worse before exams. I think my problem stems from the fact that I had a mother who did everything for me. I remember her trying to get me to clean my room... grounding me, beating me, etc ...but I also remember her giving in and either helping me clean or cleaning it for me. She did my laundry, cooked most meals (packed school lunches), and many other things until I left HS. If I would have came home more often during undergrad, she probably would have done my laundry. Yes, I was spoiled rotten. Freshman year of college sucked.. I had to start doing all that stuff on my own (Except cooking- which, now that I do not have a cafeteria 2 mins away, I am actually finding out that I like to do). I feel really fortunate to have a mother who did all this for me, but at the same time I think it is the cause for my laziness when it comes to household chores/cleaning. My gf started to do a lot of this stuff on her own (at least partially) in elementary/junior high! In retrospect, I think I see the importance of kids cleaning up for themselves!

 

[Ypo.]

I think my problem stems from the fact that I had a mother who did everything for me. I remember her trying to get me to clean my room... grounding me, beating me, etc ...

No wonder nagging isn't effective. If beating someone doesn't work!

Oh seriously, I wonder there is a genetic component to it. My brother is a complete slob and my mom definitely made us pick up after ourselves.
Then again, there are women slobs, and guy neat freaks. Its just that overall I think hetero guys are messy, and women are cleaner.

btw-Funstuff, I think its really awesome that you are making an effort. I swear that is what matters most. The good thing about making an honest effort is that it ends up in less nagging, greater cooperation in the relationship, etc...(less crusty food left on dishes, no dirty sock odor in the house...)

Heh heh heh. Sometimes I wonder what my brother will do when he goes out on his own-I mean, doesn't he notice when he puts a food encrusted pan in the dishwasher it doesn't get clean? (currently he puts them back in the cupboard even though there is still food crusted on to them-the guy is 25 years old!)...If there is any justice in this world, he will get a wife who is a bigger slob than him-and have to nag her to be cleaner!

Lucky for me my SO is good at doing the dishes, but unfortunately he is not very familiar with the broom or the toilet scrubber.

 

[happydays]

Thanks a lot everyone!

Here's what I've gathered so far:
1. Look good
2. Don't be (or appear) too competitive
3. Don't be too damanding on the small things
4. It takes the right guy (someone who will accept an educated girl). If someone just isn't right, it's not worth it. I just want someone who will be proud of me for the obsticles that I've overcome to reach where I am now.

Great! I'll work on these and see what happens.

 

[Still Kickin]

I think my problem stems from the fact that I had a mother who did everything for me... She did my laundry, cooked most meals (packed school lunches), and many other things until I left HS. If I would have came home more often during undergrad, she probably would have done my laundry. Yes, I was spoiled rotten... I think it is the cause for my laziness when it comes to household chores/cleaning.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, blame it all on Mom.

(1/2-serious but 1/2-just enjoying an excuse to "raz" someone a bit so please don't get all bent out of shape by this post.)

 

[Still Kickin]

Well, maybe if they did the darn dishes on their own we wouldn't have to nag!

Seriously, can someone explain the typical lack of cleaning effort that I see in heterosexual males? Do you guys considering it degrading to clean? Do you not care if your house smells bad, or care about being in a pleasant environment?

and btw-I'm not saying you guys are all like that.

Can't wait until I can afford a housekeeper to clean up after my hubby. (Then again, if it comes down to that maybe I should consider other options...!)

 

[fun8stuff]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, blame it all on Mom.

(1/2-serious but 1/2-just enjoying an excuse to "raz" someone a bit so please don't get all bent out of shape by this post.)

well it's either mom or some kind of genetic thing... but regarding the genetics thing- my dad is pretty clean and whatnot (but i don't know how he was pre-30 years old). My mom is a clean freak.. super clean freak. So, I really don't know what else it could be. I have a few friends (they are straight) who out of my all my friends are actually really clean (clean apartment, etc) and dress nice (coordinated). The only thing they have in common is that they all had older sisters and mom's that were pretty strict on picking stuff up. i guess i should probably just blaim myself!

 

[Kazema]

How do you make friends at med school? It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Everyone you meet is in the same situation you're in - they want to make friends. All you really have to do is be social. If you have a pulse and the ability to speak and understand English, you can make friends in med school.

If someone invites you to do something, do it. If someone has a party, go. Come up with some activity and invite the whole class. In the first few weeks of school (and orientation) people are itching to get out there and meet people. It doesn't really even matter what the activity is. If you come up with the idea that you're going to go down to the pond and try to catch frogs, people will show up with knee-high boots, bug spray, and nets.

In the first few weeks of school, there are two types of people in any given class: those who go out and socialize and those who don't. If you want to make a lot of friends, be one of the former. It's really that simple.

Alternatively, if you're the antisocial type, go to a couple parties and notice who doesn't ever show up, and start hanging out with them and be antisocial together. Everyone wins.

 

[fun8stuff]

Alternatively, if you're the antisocial type, go to a couple parties and notice who doesn't ever show up, and start hanging out with them and be antisocial together. Everyone wins.

haha...

 

[gujuDoc]

Alternatively, if you're the antisocial type, go to a couple parties and notice who doesn't ever show up, and start hanging out with them and be antisocial together. Everyone wins.

Wouldn't this contradict the point of being antisocial??? I thought antisocial meant that you don't talk to anyone at all.

 

[WhatUpDoc!]

Wouldn't this contradict the point of being antisocial??? I thought antisocial meant that you don't talk to anyone at all.

guju it's similar to the whole "Goth" thing that folk were into during high school. "Society doesn't like me... so uuhhh... I'm gonna were black and be DIFFERENT, with the rest of my friends who believe the EXACT SAME THING. " I always laughed at this sad bunch of individuals... and wonder which burgers are they flipping now (a whopper or big mac? )

 

[funshine]

Wouldn't this contradict the point of being antisocial??? I thought antisocial meant that you don't talk to anyone at all.

Antisocial's more an attitude than anything else. Most people who are introverted would also claim to be antisocial to a certain extent or in certain situations. People who truly don't care about socializing wouldn't subscribe to being put in any sort of social category. They wouldn't be "worrying" over whether they're antisocial or not, either.

How do you make friends at med school? It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Everyone you meet is in the same situation you're in - they want to make friends. All you really have to do is be social. If you have a pulse and the ability to speak and understand English, you can make friends in med school.

If someone invites you to do something, do it. If someone has a party, go. Come up with some activity and invite the whole class. In the first few weeks of school (and orientation) people are itching to get out there and meet people. It doesn't really even matter what the activity is. If you come up with the idea that you're going to go down to the pond and try to catch frogs, people will show up with knee-high boots, bug spray, and nets.

In the first few weeks of school, there are two types of people in any given class: those who go out and socialize and those who don't. If you want to make a lot of friends, be one of the former. It's really that simple.

Alternatively, if you're the antisocial type, go to a couple parties and notice who doesn't ever show up, and start hanging out with them and be antisocial together. Everyone wins.

great post.

 

[gujuDoc]

guju it's similar to the whole "Goth" thing that folk were into during high school. "Society doesn't like me... so uuhhh... I'm gonna were black and be DIFFERENT, with the rest of my friends who believe the EXACT SAME THING. " I always laughed at this sad bunch of individuals... and wonder which burgers are they flipping now (a whopper or big mac? )

Not to open up another can of worms, but that is kinda funny that you mention the whole highschool thing, because I knew quite a few of the popular kids who dropped out of college and have nothing better then jobs as waiters or other non educated jobs.

And then I know a lot of people, not the goths per say, who were semi antisocial in highschool but became more social in college. I know for me, I didn't talk to many people in highschool, but now I'm very sociable because I like the people here where I am now better then many of those I was around in highschool.

But I see your point that you made with the example you gave above and see what you and the poster below you are getting at now.

 

[gujuDoc]

Antisocial's more an attitude than anything else. Most people who are introverted would also claim to be antisocial to a certain extent or in certain situations. People who truly don't care about socializing wouldn't subscribe to being put in any sort of social category. They wouldn't be "worrying" over whether they're antisocial or not, either.



great post.

GOOD Point about the antisocials.

 

[Ypo.]

I agree-you definitely have to go out and make the effort. I didn't do that in the first few weeks of school-I'm definitely not anti-social, I'm just more independant. I only went to the bar once last semester, right after finals, and I really had a good time. It was fun to see my classmates all relaxed, happy and drunk. But its not something I want to do every week. Strange as it may sound, I did most of my socializing in anatomy lab last semester.

 

[fun8stuff]

Not to open up another can of worms, but that is kinda funny that you mention the whole highschool thing, because I knew quite a few of the popular kids who dropped out of college and have nothing better then jobs as waiters or other non educated jobs.

And then I know a lot of people, not the goths per say, who were semi antisocial in highschool but became more social in college. I know for me, I didn't talk to many people in highschool, but now I'm very sociable because I like the people here where I am now better then many of those I was around in highschool.

But I see your point that you made with the example you gave above and see what you and the poster below you are getting at now.

same experience here.... 90% of the so-called "popular kids" from my high school are either college dropouts sitting in their trailers, dead, druggies/drug dealers, pregnant &/or have multiple kids. i was not that social in high school per say, although i had my group of friends that i tended to stick to- most who i am still in contact with and still hangout with when I am home. i definately became more social in college. i still don't really like the whole social events though (i.e. parties that involve the whole class, etc). i would much rather spend it with the close friends i have made or with my gf.