Midwest Residency Programs

[Jive Turkey]

I'm looking at some residency programs (IM) in the Midwest (specifically in Detroit, but anywhere Midwest really). I've heard good things about Cleveland Clinic, Henry Ford Hospital and UMich, but conflicting things about Beaumont Hospital. What are your thoughts?

Any thoughts about which Hospitals:
(1) have better teaching
(2) have a better reputation as far as getting residents into fellowships

I have not entirely decided on Medicine, so if there are any med students or residents from other programs (Gen Surg, Anesth, Rads, EM, etc.). I'd be happy to hear any comments.

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[Jive Turkey]

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[Jim Picotte]

I'll be starting at Beaumont in July although in Radiology where the hospital has a pretty good reputation. I've never done a rotation there, but my friends at Wayne State all said that it was a very good hospital. On the question of education, I really don't know if Beaumont is better in the aspects of Internal Medicine, but one of my friends thought there EM program was the perfect fit for him (out of all the ones in the Midwest). Residency really is just finding a place where you can fit in and being in a good learning environment. All the hospitals you mentioned, including Beaumont are excellent. You'd be trained well at any of them I'm sure.

 

[WSU02]

For Beaumont:
Well, the students at WSUSOM call it Club Beau...draw your own conclusions. :wink:

Good teaching, better than average patients - most will even LISTEN to your advice - good ancillary services (a relative rarity in Detroit), nice facilities. I only rotated through there in rads, so I don't know complete details for IM, but I know many who did and all seem happy with the experience.

WBH is in Royal Oak, a trendy area of metro Detroit - which means lots to do but higher rents.

HTH,
Kristi
WSUSOM '02
PGY-1, OB-Gyn MCO

 

[Jive Turkey]

WSU02, would you choose Beaumont over Henry Ford if you were doing an IM residency? Which program is more reputable (ie, will help you get better fellowships)?

In general, which hospital is better overall? As you might be able to tell, I'm a confused 4th year and I have several fields that I'm still trying to narrow down. One thing I do know is that I'd like to get back home to Detroit. So, I'm interested in knowing which hospitals to look out for once I figure out my life.

I'm out here on the East coast, and they faculty here doesn't know a whole lot about the Midwest programs.

 

[Jim Picotte]

Jive, sounds like you really want to come back to Michigan so I'd just apply to both Beaumont and Henry Ford and let the interview decide on which one you like better. Both are excellent facilities with very good reputations regionally. If you plan on practicing in California though, I doubt many people know of either hospital, but in the Midwest they're both excellent.

Apply to both places for IM or whatever you decide and see which one feels like a better "fit" to you. The whole, which hospital is better, has a better reputation is really tough to pin down exactly and that may change dramatically even over your 3 or more years of residency. You'll get a good fellowship no matter where you go if you make the right connections and do a great job.

This only applies for radiology, but I'd say Beaumont, Henry Ford, Oakwood and U Mich are all very good places. I believe Wayne is pretty good for IM as well. I'm sure in IM there are even hospitals to consider.

Good luck.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Thanks for the advice JP. I guess I'm getting a little ahead of myself.

But it would sort of help me have an idea of where I'd like to be so I could maybe arrange an outside elective. I'm not the most accomplished applicant by a longshot, so I was hoping to maybe spend a block at either HF or WB (or wherever else thats "good" in Detroit) to bolter my chances.

Thanks to all for their advice.

 

[WSU02]

I've only heard good things about HF's IM program, although I never rotated there.

I did both of my required IM inpatient rotations via the DMC - my 3rd year clerkship at Receiving (what a pit! but good cases and mostly good attending teaching).

My 4th year sub-I at Sinai-Grace - lots of good cases there, a good mix of horses and zebras. Lots of FMGs there, call is q7. No, that is not a typo, call is only once a week for floor months (more frequent for MICU). 100% IM board pass rate. Relatively humane. I'd actually seriously consider that program.
HTH,
Kristi

 

[Jive Turkey]

Much thanks to Jim and WSO2. I'd love to hear about other Midwest programs from anyone else.

Anybody? Anybody? Bueller?