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Would any of you be interested in tracking military match stats over time? I think it would be interesting to track how many residency positions and in what specialty were given similar to the way NRMP releases a report. We could create an unofficial tracking page and group the results by year.

The information could help those interested in military medicine make an informed decision as to whether or not a HPSP scholarship was right for them. In some cases it might be easier to get a specialty position in the military then in the civilian world. How would anyone know unless it is tracked?
 

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Would any of you be interested in tracking military match stats over time? I think it would be interesting to track how many residency positions and in what specialty were given similar to the way NRMP releases a report. We could create an unofficial tracking page and group the results by year.

The information could help those interested in military medicine make an informed decision as to whether or not a HPSP scholarship was right for them. In some cases it might be easier to get a specialty position in the military then in the civilian world. How would anyone know unless it is tracked?

How are you going to do this?

I have been looking at the JSGME results for a couple of years now and I never could figure out how many people actually applied to which specialty. In addition, GMOs who apply but don't "match" are not even listed on the results spreadsheet.

This is a great idea in theory, but may be hard to retrieve the necessary info to get match percentages.

The only data I can really get from those spreadsheets is the percentage of MS-IVs that get a military residency or a deferred residency vs. the ones that are only given a 1 year civilian deferment (i.e. Will be doing a GMO tour). I have found that the number of 1 year deferments have been ranging from 20-30% since 2004 for the AF.
 

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In addition, GMOs who apply but don't "match" are not even listed on the results spreadsheet.
On the Navy results page, they're listed as ALTs.
 
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On the Navy results page, they're listed as ALTs.
Not all are listed as ALTs. If a name doesn't make the list at all, then that person was not selected as a primary or as an alternate. I've definitely seen it happen with fellowship apps. I'm sure it happens with some of the more competitive residencies.
 

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Not all are listed as ALTs. If a name doesn't make the list at all, then that person was not selected as a primary or as an alternate. I've definitely seen it happen with fellowship apps. I'm sure it happens with some of the more competitive residencies.
True. Not everyone who applies is listed. There are some who are not academically qualified. Some are not eligible because of rotation dates, promotion failures, body fat, or not having any goal for training in the area requested.
 

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For the Air Force, 63 people received PGY-1's only. Unfortunately, the Air Force did not release everyone's rank as it has in year's past, leaving me unable to calculate the percentage of GMO's. There are traditionally been ~300 medical students, giving us 20% GMO's this year if that number holds. Last year 70/283 (or 24%) received PGY-1's only.

And no, the Air Force will never release data similarly to the NRMP. Everything is one giant cover up for the AF to prevent people from knowing the truth about the HPSP scholarship.
 

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For the Air Force, 63 people received PGY-1's only. Unfortunately, the Air Force did not release everyone's rank as it has in year's past, leaving me unable to calculate the percentage of GMO's. There are traditionally been ~300 medical students, giving us 20% GMO's this year if that number holds. Last year 70/283 (or 24%) received PGY-1's only.

And no, the Air Force will never release data similarly to the NRMP. Everything is one giant cover up for the AF to prevent people from knowing the truth about the HPSP scholarship.
The sad part is I recognize a bunch of names on the spreadsheet that are current GMOs/Flight Docs and a lot of them got an "Alternate" selection, while some of the med students got a military residency or civilian deferment in that same specialty. How is that for a kick in the nuts?

Apparently, the "point system" has a lot of wiggle room :thumbdown:

The writing is on the wall for a lot of people...Just do your GMO tour and leave and go into a civilian residency.

BTW, I counted 68 people that were given 1 year deferments that weren't for fellowships
 

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I re-counted and saw only 66 this time around. I wish the AF would just be more honest about the Match numbers.
 

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The writing is on the wall for a lot of people...Just do your GMO tour and leave and go into a civilian residency.
Exactly what I was thinking, 3 years and out. Rather put my training on hold now than put my life on hold a few years from now.
 

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I dont know if the following data will help your project sir, but I'm an MS4 AF HPSP student. The 1st choice specialty select rate among my classmates and friends in AFHPSP was 90% (N=10). This includes people applying for internal medicine, family medicine, anesthesiology, EM, and Surgery. The 9 people who got their first choices are happy, the 1 person who didnt is really angry.
EDIT: after talking to some classmates in the army and navy, my new N=13, with 12/13 getting what they want.
 
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At my school, 6/8 got their specialty choice. One of the ones who matched got her last ranked location and a preliminary year she never asked for. She's pissed.
 

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