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Mount Sinai or BU med school?? where to?

Discussion in 'Medical Students - MD' started by homes, Feb 6, 2001.

  1. homes

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    Hey guys,

    I have been accepted to two med schools out of 22 that I applied to. I applied as an undergrad from Brown...I wanted to get my home-state med school which is Iowa, but got flatout rejected....After all the waiting and praying, I have two acceptances...Mount Sinai and BU...what's up with that? those are some costly schools, but I'm relieved. I like the location of BU, but does anybody know much about Mount sinai...it's New York, but I think it's in an absolute s!!hole--my friends say that. But it's top 30..I think.

    Well..I'm in, but I feel strange about getting rejected at home and getting accepted at 35K schools. hmmm...

    Where should I go? I wanted NYU--I even called the admissions office and almost begged them to admit me..believe me it was crazy..I was like Al gore..I got denied in the end..

    comments are greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. caffeinegirl

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    Hi
    I've been accepted to Mount Sinai and NYU, and I'm right now choosing Mount Sinai over NYU. I know of others from my university who chose Mount Sinai over NYU last year as well.

    Why do you think that Mount Sinai is so bad? I thought that it has excellent facilities. The Morchand Center is used by every school in the City except Cornell, I think. I don't know if you saw the Seinfeld episode that featured it (Kramer was a "patient actor").

    I loved it there. It is in an excellent part of the city, it's housing is top-notch, and the opportunities that undergrads get there are amazing (i mean medical undergrads). Not only can you go on grand rounds, but you also get world famous speakers that come to lecture to YOU.

    Sure, Mount Sinai isn't affiliated to a university, but it has amazing clinical opportunities.

    The two friends of mine who are first-years there absolutely love it. When I interviewed there I met more great down-to earth students.

    What else? Well, if you want #'s, Mount Sinai is ranked 23 on the US News Ranking. It's also very highly ranked for a hospital by US News as well (they rank it based on different depts.) As for residency opp's, their placement is very good.

    Check it out again for yourself if you must. Don't rely only on what others say...

    With that, I wish you the best of luck, and congrats on getting into such great schools
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  4. turtleboard

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    In case you guys didn't know, Sinai is affiliated with New York University (NYU), the only private university in the country that currently operates two medical schools (its School of Medicine and Mount Sinai). So I think when Sinai grads get their MDs, it'll be the NYU-Mount Sinai name on it.

    Not that my school is in the greatest of neighborhoods, but Sinai is bordering the Upper East Side/Spanish Harlem. It's not the safest area, being located on one side next to Central Park and on the other adjacent to some seedy-looking Housing Projects.

    Sinai is a good school though, and it'd be fun to attend. I've been to the Morchand center and I think it's an interesting idea -- although some of the "patients" are actors of the Soap Opera school.


    Tim W. of N.Y.C.
     
  5. caffeinegirl

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    From MSSM's website

    What is the relationship between Mount Sinai and New York University?
    Mount Sinai School of Medicine and New York University School of Medicine are completely independent entities, each having its own Dean and Board of Trustees. In July 1999, Mount Sinai School of Medicine changed its academic affiliation to New York University and, hence, its diplomas will read Mount Sinai School of Medicine of New York University. However, all curricular development and student rotations will be unique to each institution. The students of each school have always been able to, and will continue to be able to, schedule electives at the other school.

    The main hospitals and affiliates of Mount Sinai and New York University have merged under a new entity ? Mount Sinai NYU Health, which has its own CEO and Board of Trustees.
     
  6. caffeinegirl

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    One thing about location, is that you do get a varied patient population, because of it bordering Spanish harlem and the posh upper east side...

     
  7. MD-bound

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    Hey Homes,

    Congratulations on your acceptances!!! They are both fine schools. I am applying to Bu among several other med schools right now. I was told that they won't send out acceptances until the middle to late part of Feb.

    I was curious when you found out about your acceptance and any advice you could offer about me trying to find out sooner?

    As for your post, I think the decision will be one of personal choice. From what I hear, BU students are not all that happy given the competition and numerous programs that offer other students--some very young at that--opportunities to join the medical school. I have heard that the first year class is not very cohesive and supportive. On the other hand, I have heard wonderful things about NYU/Mount Sinai. I think you should investigate the matter further and take these issues into consideration as well.

    Congrat again--I think you are going to get a quality education at both institutions. [​IMG]
     
  8. turtleboard

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    caffeinegirl,

    Let's not get carried away. Mount Sinai, being a private hospital, has a patient population that has no resemblance to the neighborhoods it borders. Spanish Harlem is served mainly by Metropolitan Hospital (a municipal hospital), and it is really the Upper East Side (below 96th Street) that utilizes Sinai.

    The inequities of medical care in New York City are apparent at each one of the five medical schools here. It's interesting but you'll see that in every med school's university hospital the patient demographics are different than the med school's city hospital affiliate.

    (Metropolitan, by the way, is a New York Medical College affiliate)


    Tim W. of N.Y.C.

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  9. JBERRI

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    I'm not sure how you get your info, but from someone who knows first hand about Mount Sinai-because I work there and live in the East Harlem community, There is a large patient population from East Harlem that utilizes Mount Sinai and their clinics. I am one of them. Metropolitan, where I volunteer is a public hospital that serves not only East Harlem but other communities as well. It is true that the majority of the patients are indigent, and have medicaid or no health insurance at all, but to say that most of the East Harlem community only uses Metropolitan is wrong.
     
  10. turtleboard

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    That information came from an article that I read a year and a half ago in the New York Times reporting on major benefactors of Mount Sinai buying their way into the hospital's emergency services.


    Tim W. of N.Y.C.
     
  11. Homes,

    I didn't know they accepted students who didn't take the MCAT yet.

    Tim,

    It might be interesting for you to know that Homes doesn't consider SUNY to be a "real" school.

    Good luck Homie !!! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

     
  12. Loukary,

    I've seen you doing your board-policing all over these forums, calling up peoples' old posts to point out discrepancies or just to pick on them. Do you have this entire forum archived in a searchable database somewhere? Flatfile or relational? I'm kidding, of course. How do you have the time to cross-check peoples' posts if your profile says you're an MS3 somewhere in Boston?
     
  13. turtleboard

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    loukary,

    If a question is posted to which I have a comment, suggestion, or, at least in my mind, an answer, I'll post it regardless of the poster's beliefs. I don't agree with some of the other posters on the forum, but wouldn't hold back any information I think would be helpful simply because of that fact.


    Tim W. of N.Y.C.
     
  14. homes

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    Loukary,
    SUNY is an accredited US medical school, not an osteopathic school, but not a high caliber med. school like Yeshiva or NYU--that's what I was saying before. I didn't say it was not a real medical school.--stop putting words into someone's mouth....It's a medical school that liquid tension might have luckily gotten into. I think you need to study more MCAT verbal and understand a concept called "author's drift"

    Peace,
    Homes
     
  15. Hey Stupid,

    I guess the gloves are off. I did quite well on the verbal section of the MCAT, thanks. I'd be willing to scan my MCAT scores if you scan yours. You did imply that SUNY wasn't a real NY medical school. Look at what you wrote. You stated that he doesn't have the mental capacity to endure hell in a real New york med school... maybe a SUNY though. Why maybe a SUNY though? This implies that it isn't a real med school. This is a valid interpretation. The point is, why would you even bring this up? Who cares where he went to med school. How is this pertinent to any discussion? By the way, NYCOM is an accredited US Medical School, you jacka$$. Why do I need to understand "author's drift" for the Verbal section of the MCAT. Maybe if you actually TOOK the MCAT, like you claimed, you'd know that understanding "author's drift" isn't needed for success on the verbal section of the MCAT (jacka$$). Maybe you need to spend more time of the Biological Sciences section and the Physical Sciences section, that way you can get into an "IVY league" medical school, you (jacka$$) and you won't have to "BEG" NYU. What I understand quite clearly is that your posts amounts to "author's bull$hit". Have a nice day.

    Dear Mr. Pre-Med with a 1250 SAT and 3.3 Undergrad GPA who got into Haverford and slipped into Brown through the back door,

    I didn't (liar) know BU and Mt. Sinai (liar)accepted students (liar) who didn't take the MCATs (liar). I guess they've eased up on their admissions (liar)standards. I heard you don't even have to go through undergrad now. In the span of 10 days you managed to wonder if you have a shot, take the MCAT, apply, interview, and get accepted. You are some piece of work.

    Good luck Dr.(liar) Homie !!! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    This is the most pathetic lie I've ever seen or heard. All your previous posts indicate that you are a pre-med. Anyone can do a search. Now you claim that this is actually your username and that your pre-med brother is using it to ask questions. The lie would have worked better the other way, jacka$$. "This is my brother's username, that is why all previous posts make me sound like a pre-med, and I was too lazy to register, so I used my little brother's username to post this question about Mt. Sinai and BU." Come on, you could've came up with something better than that. So, you have a brother who is also a senior at Brown, a pre-med, and even though you are both from Iowa, you both decided to go to Brown? The two of you must be really close-knit twins. Just stop explaining. Either admit you lied or take the extra ten seconds that your imaginary brother didn't want to do, and create another user id. That way, you can continue with your lies. What will you appear as next? A siamese twin who needs to decide between Harvard and Stanford med? Let's separate you and your twin brother's username? HO ME s. Your brother can be ME and you can be the HO. Good Luck Hoho. [​IMG] [​IMG] Say hi to Me for me.

     
  16. Loukary,

    An inquiring mind here wants to know how you remember all the past posts ? My curiosity is sincere; in fact, I admire your ability to dig up past sources and confront a lot of the trolls on the board. Mind sharing your technique?

    Sniper "300" Bubble
     
  17. Dear HoHo the Dog,

    You're barking up the wrong tree, my furry friend. Trying to attack my scholastic achievements is the wrong road to travel. If you clicked on my profile or read my last post (possible literacy issues?), you would have figured out that I'm already in med school.

    If you want to stack my SAT scores up to yours, I'd be happy to. Oh, and the 3.95 GPA, give me a break. My GPA was almost a full point higher than yours. Plus, I earned the International Bacculaureate Degree in high school. If you don't know what that is, oh well.

    My undergrad is arguably the best or second best school in the US. I'm not going to attack Brown, because it is a fine school. Let's just say it is harder to get into where I went to school. Oh yeah, I got accepted to Brown the first time around and was offered a scholarship as well. Like I said, scan your scores, and I'll scan mine. I'll also include the LSATs that I just took. I'm thinking of adding the JD to my MD. I scored a 171, 99th percentile. So, I might know a thing or two about Verbal skills. Some would argue that the LSAT is slightly harder than the Verbal section on the MCAT.

    1) Hey....feeling the heat?" What heat? I do feel a gust of hot air blowing in from Providence.

    2) "Relax, dude...you'll have your day and get into an ivy league someday...maybe ivy janitorial school. " That's disappointing. You could have come up with something better than that. Make you should ask MikeS78 or Liquid Tension for tips. Otherwise, this thread is over. I've lost interest. If you are going to attack me, the least you could do is make it sound intelligent. Oooops, I forgot you are a dumb jock.

    3) "maybe the fact that I was nationally ranked in tennis had something to do with it. " Maybe?? How about definitely!!! Getting in because you could help the tennis team only shows that you are academically unqualified. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have a physician who was academically qualfied rather than one who could pass me at the net?

    4) "But...I hope you get yourself together, because you sound infurious on these boards. " Since when was infurious a word. Is this more jock talk or "author's drift"? I think you've been listening to that N'Sync record a little too long my furry friend.

    5) "my brother already has some more interviews coming up...including one on the west coast." Why would you even bring up your brother? What is he interviewing for? A spot as a ball boy at nationally ranked Stanford? A "real" tennis team is always looking for good ball boys. I'll put in a good word for him. Woof Woof. By the way, it's curious that he can't get into Iowa medical school (his home state) yet he has all these great interviews and acceptances at nationally ranked schools.

    6) "it's tough though because Brown has almost a 100% acceptance rate into medical school" No school, not even Harvard, Yale, and Columbia has a 100% acceptance rate. Please post the number of your advisor at Brown who gave you that stat. I guess everyone at Stanford and Harvard should move to Brown, that way they are guaranteed accptance into medical school. But I guess Brown is just a "real" undergrad school and the other aren't. Yeah right !!! and Bush would trust Clinton with his twin daughters. I think you've been knocked on the head with the tennis ball a little to often my furry friend. Here's a tennis tip: Don't look at the sun when you try to smash the ball. It can and will hit you on the head. That one's free, the next time I charge.

    7) "Good luck with the MCAT and best of luck in your future endeavors."

    Good luck to you too, trust me, you'll need it. It's too bad medical schools don't have tennis teams, huh?

    Listen, my tennis ball fetching furry friend, if you can't see that you are being embarrassed, then you need to wake-up from your "author's drift to sleep". Send in some reinforcements, maybe a NBA star turned MD,JD,MBA,PHD. Tell your imaginary brother Hoho I say good luck on his interviews. Let's just stop. The more you "try" to attack me, the more material you provide for me. I'm gonna stop, because it is obvious to me that you are impotent. By the way, I heard that they are in Phase three for a drug that works just like Viagra, except in works in the brain. Maybe I can get you in on the trials, you could use a little more blood in the MCA, that way you can get a little more blood to Wernicke's area. It's obvious that it's a little bit ischemic right now.

    Game, Set, Match.
    Your instructor and coach,
    LOUKARY


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