Much Ado Re: Irma

[Ad2b]

As the title says: Ms Irma is making a visit here. She's like the ugly, old bat Aunt that smells like dead fish lavender and won't go away stay.

My MCAT was scheduled for this past Sat; I showed up, having just gotten a 512 on FL 2 (insert some sort of here) the night before, thinking, "I GOT THIS @#$!" only to find out that the elevators weren't working because... nothing was working. Power was out, transformer had blown. Test was canceled.

Woot! More time to study! <----- or that (15 hour days, face planted in MCAT mats, do that)

So, today, through a variety of arm twisting, stern-adult-voicing, Prometric acquiesced and said that it was indeed their responsibility to reschedule my exam. For Saturday, the 9th.

Now for those of you not in harm's way, Saturday, Sept 9th will probably be like many other early Sept Saturdays, and depending on which part of the country you live in, will be pleasant, though not stifling hot.

For those of us in sunny, humid FL - we are hoping to not get blown off the face of the planet. Irma is now the largest hurricane in the Atlantic history books. And... I'm square in her path (no matter which part of FL I'm in, I'm in her path; we all are).

Here's my question: the exam will get rescheduled, I suspect, come Th when Irma takes her turn and the wind expectations for my area land at about the 100mph range.

If school's have based the last day of their accepted MCAT as Sept 9th, are they going to accept dates later in Sept due to natural forces? Like the folks in Houston and now us?

OR is our MCAT just going to make us early next year and skip this cycle?

(Yes, I know I can call the schools but... I'm sort of trying to figure out my hurricane plan and make sure I've checked everything off - water, batteries, sand bags, water water water, etc).

And I know none of you can really comment specifically without giving your identity away (though, I do have a strong idea who some of ya'll are )... but generally, your thoughts?

Last, thank you. Really - thank you. As I'm so freaking close to being truly complete, this is sort of niggling inside my head.

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[md-2020]

Unfortunately I could see schools not caring (since most people don't wait for a 9/9 score as their first MCAT on file). Could you talk to prometric and try to get a test appointment out of town? Might be safer too over the weekend.

 

[efle]

Agree with the above, I don't think it's safe to expect any reaction from schools. I'd look into travelling away from coast to test, if you want to test ASAP and avoid potentially being a very late applicant (or missing deadline for some schools)

 

[Ad2b]

Unfortunately I could see schools not caring (since most people don't wait for a 9/9 score as their first MCAT on file). Could you talk to prometric and try to get a test appointment out of town? Might be safer too over the weekend.

Agree with the above, I don't think it's safe to expect any reaction from schools.

I can see that re: schools not caring as well. As for me, there's really no place to go. I work full time, have son/dogs/cat to ensure they are safe as well.

The pic is the 11 PM of latest track. If this holds (unlikely to be 100% accurate), we are going to hope to survive.

 

[efle]

Are you not thinking you'll end up getting evacuated anyways? Would be a good time for a last minute, long weekend trip with the family out to...literally anywhere but Florida

 

[Ad2b]

Are you not thinking you'll end up getting evacuated anyways? Would be a good time for a last minute, long weekend trip with the family out to...literally anywhere but Florida

Until Weds night or Th morning, no one can predict with some reason where this storm is going to turn. If we knew where that might/could happen, it'd be easier to predict and know what/where we should go. Friends in GA and SC have offered up their homes to all of us (5 dogs, 1 cat, 1 adult son and myself)... but who's to say they won't get hit too?

FL only put mandatory evacuations on the Keys for ALL tourists and non-residents (those not holding FL driver's licenses, I think). We are not under any sort of evacuation decree and because I'm about 5 miles inland, out of the surge zone, I don't know that I would evacuate anyway unless Cat 5 and truly dead set on my city. Then... thank God I have 4-wheel drive

Also, ironically maybe?, I am a disaster services volunteer with the ARC and have been for years but typically, I'm the one coming in to an area to help (like Joplin, MO) not the one needing help. It's really a weird situation and until I saw the fear on faces today at work from the native Floridians, I wasn't really thinking all that much about it beyond get water, sandbags, batteries, crackers/chips/things I can bbq on the grill... So, ARC called me up for Texas and I couldn't go because of MCAT and work but now I may be asked to stay, or rather, I should say... I've already offered.

There are so many homeless people in my city - think it's the largest homeless population in the country - where do they go? how do they stay dry? how do they get fed? water? Many have pets (thank God - helps to keep them calmer as many suffer brain chemistry issues)... how do help the pets? So, kind of thinking, no matter what, I stay here. And help. It's just what I do.

TL;DR - won't know until Wed night what we're doing.

 

[precisiongraphic]

No advice but good luck, stay safe and take care of yourself/family/pets.

 

[Ad2b]

No advice but good luck, stay safe and take care of yourself/family/pets.

Thank you. We will/are. I think we'll be fine overall; just power outages, standing water and the assorted animals that come with that

 

[BtmoreRavens18]

I have absolutely no insight into what schools may or may not do but just wanted to say good luck and stay safe. I can't imagine what you are facing right now - it certainly puts things in perspective for the rest of us.


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[Ad2b]

wanted to say good luck and stay safe. I can't imagine what you are facing right now - it certainly puts things in perspective for the rest of us.

Thank you! Won't lie, last night as I opened my home to 7 people I've never met and their pets to escape supposed storm surge + high tide + wind, I was nervous. Not about them but about the fact that they are native to FL and they are scared. Last night, the thought of a Cat 5+ buzz saw spurning up the west coast was terror inducing. I have not slept much and checked the spaghetti models again this morning at 5 AM when they were released to see how things were looking.

At this time, FL may escape this thing but... that means someone else is going to get nailed. Hopefully, if the storm steers off the east coast of FL, it gets a bit chewed up by the Bermuda high pressure, the land mass of FL itself, and the high pressure sifting down from the north.

That is my hope.

UPDATE:

I just checked a few schools (10) and ALL of those schools have moved their accepted MCAT dates to September 30, 2017 (a change from September 9, 2017).

It appears the schools have proactively managed the hurricanes and impact on students.

 

[DBC03]

Good luck - We're trying to figure out what to do here as well (other coast). I've lived through and experienced all the major storms in this state (after Donna) and we really won't have any idea about where it will go, how bad it will be, or who will get hit until it starts crossing some land. The "good" news with this storm is that it started strong. Too many of the worst hurricanes that hit us started as much weaker storms and gained strength right before or at landfall, so there was little preparation. My guess is it turns into the Atlantic and we just get some bad weather where I am - but if you're in the southeast region you will get hit in some way (maybe just with really bad rain - but that could mean flooding) and it may be bad.

How many hurricanes have you been through?

 

[Ad2b]

@DBC03 - this will be my 5th hurricane and maybe 12th tropical storm?? If you are in Miami, you need to leave. PLEASE leave if in the evacuation zone but I don't need to tell you that.

This looks to be a pretty bad storm, even in it's weakened state; still Cat 4, still winds in excess of 120 mph, still significant storm surge. People don't die to wind, they die to the water.

Below is the Official AAMC spreadsheet loaded to Google Docs of all site closures (I loaded the file because the last time a link to Google Spreadsheet was loaded, it slowed the server; if you want the site itself, go to AAMC - MCAT and it has the link there)

 

[CloverBale]

This definitely needed a TL;DR

 

[DBC03]

This is how I feel every time a hurricane comes by Florida.

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[Ad2b]

This is how I feel every time a hurricane comes by Florida.

About how I feel every time a driver turns left through 3 lanes of traffic blinking his RIGHT blinker... ah the loves and laughs of life in FL!

 

[Ad2b]

This definitely needed a TL;DR

And you need an appropriate avatar. I win.

 

[CloverBale]

And you need an appropriate avatar. I win.

Why isn't my avatar appropriate? Please explain.

 

[Turkishking]

Why isn't my avatar appropriate? Please explain.

I like it

 

[bananafish94]

I worry about the Caribbean medical students. This hurricane seems like serious business.

 

[DBC03]

I worry about the Caribbean medical students. This hurricane seems like serious business.

As a Floridian, I spend a considerable amount of time hoping hurricanes go in a different direction. But that often means other places would by definition have to get hit and it's generally bad. The saddest part is that the infrastructure in many of the countries that are in the path is decrepit and the homes are not built to withstand these storms. I hate to say I will be relieved if it slows down and weakens when it finally gets to us (or goes in a completely different direction) because I know that it will have wreaked such awful destruction on its way. This is not a good weekend for the Caribbean.


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[Ad2b]

Why isn't my avatar appropriate? Please explain.

We're not AdultFriendFinder but rather, last time I checked, a pre-professional/professional website. It's beyond sad that I have to even explain to you.

As a Floridian, I spend a considerable amount of time hoping hurricanes go in a different direction. But that often means other places would by definition have to get hit and it's generally bad. The saddest part is that the infrastructure in many of the countries that are in the path is decrepit and the homes are not built to withstand these storms. I hate to say I will be relieved if it slows down and weakens when it finally gets to us (or goes in a completely different direction) because I know that it will have wreaked such awful destruction on its way. This is not a good weekend for the Caribbean.

That is the dichotomy, isn't it? Hoping it clears oneself but know that means someone else has to suffer.

As I said earlier this week, if someone has to be hit by Irma in the US, I hope it's Florida. Houston can't sustain another slam, NO can't either, and really, SC is still recovering from Bratty Matty. BUT, my biggest hope was that it would blow off the east coast, get churned up by the Bermuda high pressure along with the high pressure from the north and die out.

I will be in Miami on Tues as part of the ARC. My hope is to mark houses "SAFE FOR RETURN" vs. orange X or worse.

Hopes for everyone's safety (we're not out of the woods but our winds will be only thing at this point, I believe).

 

[Ad2b]

(Feel free to move if this would be better in the social lounge where I never venture)

This mornings humor re: Irma (there really is none but thanks to reddit, there might be!)

Seriously? (they landed amid a rather "bumpy" landing and took off amid "some shear" 51 minutes later)

But reddit

 

[DBC03]

I worked for an historic preservationist for a year and he said he had found a map of hurricane paths dating back to the 1800s. Just about every hurricane makes its way to Charleston - either through a direct hit, a side glance, or on its way back out to the Atlantic after hitting the gulf states. Just a heads up for people who want to avoid hurricanes in the future.


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[WingedOx]

I worked for an historic preservationist for a year and he said he had found a map of hurricane paths dating back to the 1800s. Just about every hurricane makes its way to Charleston - either through a direct hit, a side glance, or on its way back out to the Atlantic after hitting the gulf states. Just a heads up for people who want to avoid hurricanes in the future.


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My aunt and uncle worked in a hospital during Hugo. They had a couple feet of water in their pharmacy department.

 

[863168]

Thank you. We will/are. I think we'll be fine overall; just power outages, standing water and the assorted animals that come with that

Sounds like the typical aftermath at a University of Miami party.

 

[Turkishking]

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Agreed

 

[reaction mechanisms]

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Preach! As a feminist, I 100% approve of your avatar.


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[Turkishking]

Preach! As a feminist, I 100% approve of your avatar.


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Agreed again

 

[Ad2b]

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Avatar + comment = unprofessional. Who cares what you post for your avatar?

Your future med school, your future residency program, your future patients. You don't start acting like a doctor the day you graduate, you decide to act appropriately and professionally the day you decide to get on the path.

Look at the ALL the avatars on this site - premed, in med, residency, adcoms, faculty. Does anyone of them have a similar avatar? No. Not one. Why is that? You should be aspiring to be like the one already in the role you want.

It's really sad I still have to explain to you and worse, that you have people supporting you? Dressed nicely in a suit, sure. Dressed like a soft core porn? What exactly are you hoping to catch on here? A med school seat or a ...

Routinely people are told to take their real names and real pictures OFF this site for the exact reasons above. You, instead, post a 1/2 naked picture of you in a thong.

 

[Turkishking]

Avatar + comment = unprofessional. Who cares what you post for your avatar?

Your future med school, your future residency program, your future patients. You don't start acting like a doctor the day you graduate, you decide to act appropriately and professionally the day you decide to get on the path.

Look at the ALL the avatars on this site - premed, in med, residency, adcoms, faculty. Does anyone of them have a similar avatar? No. Not one. Why is that? You should be aspiring to be like the one already in the role you want.

It's really sad I still have to explain to you and worse, that you have people supporting you? Dressed nicely in a suit, sure. Dressed like a soft core porn? What exactly are you hoping to catch on here? A med school seat or a ...

Routinely people are told to take their real names and real pictures OFF this site for the exact reasons above. You, instead, post a 1/2 naked picture of you in a thong.

its a nice picture

 

[CloverBale]

Avatar + comment = unprofessional. Who cares what you post for your avatar?

Your future med school, your future residency program, your future patients. You don't start acting like a doctor the day you graduate, you decide to act appropriately and professionally the day you decide to get on the path.

Look at the ALL the avatars on this site - premed, in med, residency, adcoms, faculty. Does anyone of them have a similar avatar? No. Not one. Why is that? You should be aspiring to be like the one already in the role you want.

It's really sad I still have to explain to you and worse, that you have people supporting you? Dressed nicely in a suit, sure. Dressed like a soft core porn? What exactly are you hoping to catch on here? A med school seat or a ...

Routinely people are told to take their real names and real pictures OFF this site for the exact reasons above. You, instead, post a 1/2 naked picture of you in a thong.

You're absolutely hilarious!! Must I reiterate this is an online forum? How do you know that's even me? How do you know I'm even female? And since when is a woman in a one-piece bathing suit soft core porn? Do you get aroused every time you go to the beach or the pool?
Honestly if I changed my avatar to a woman in a suit, what is that going to do? Is someone magically going to appear and offer me a medical school interview? You must be kidding me.
My avatar has nothing to do with my aspirations of becoming a doctor, just like yours doesn't either.

And no, Clover Bale is not my name. I wasn't born yesterday.

 

[CloverBale]

Preach! As a feminist, I 100% approve of your avatar.


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Love your avatar! #feminism

 

[reaction mechanisms]

Avatar + comment = unprofessional. Who cares what you post for your avatar?

Your future med school, your future residency program, your future patients. You don't start acting like a doctor the day you graduate, you decide to act appropriately and professionally the day you decide to get on the path.

Look at the ALL the avatars on this site - premed, in med, residency, adcoms, faculty. Does anyone of them have a similar avatar? No. Not one. Why is that? You should be aspiring to be like the one already in the role you want.

It's really sad I still have to explain to you and worse, that you have people supporting you? Dressed nicely in a suit, sure. Dressed like a soft core porn? What exactly are you hoping to catch on here? A med school seat or a ...

Routinely people are told to take their real names and real pictures OFF this site for the exact reasons above. You, instead, post a 1/2 naked picture of you in a thong.

If you're so offended by the human body, why exactly are you pursuing this profession?

You sound so basic. The medical field could use fewer traditional, conservative physicians (such as what you're aiming to become) and more physicians that are willing to think and work with an innovative, open mind.

Also, I suggest you educate yourself on underwear styles because the model in the avatar is certainly not pictured wearing a thong.


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[Turkishking]

If you're so offended by the human body, why exactly are you pursuing this profession?

You sound so basic. The medical field could use fewer traditional, conservative physicians (such as what you're aiming to become) and more physicians that are willing to think and work with an innovative, open mind.

Also, I suggest you educate yourself on underwear styles because the model in the avatar is certainly not pictured wearing a thong.


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Is the model @CloverBale or an actual model I live under a rock

 

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Is the model @CloverBale or an actual model I live under a rock

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[Lucca]

This is a reminder to keep this thread on topic - Irma's impact on Florida interviews / schools / MCAT test takers.

 

[DBC03]

So we're now at CAT 7 hurricane status at our house. And by that, I mean that my sister dropped off her three cats, which, added to my four cats, makes seven cats in this house. SDN should be proud.

I'm getting a little bit nervous since the track keeps pulling closer to us. Honestly, it's such a massive storm that it's going to take out nearly the entire state. I'm just hoping it gets a lot less powerful by the time it gets here. I'm more worried about our house, which is a few hours away, closer to the track, and in an area where the storm will be quite a bit stronger. Our renters have already gotten out all the hurricane shutters and seem to be on top of securing everything. But it feels weird to be so far away and to know that we won't have any idea how the house is until well after the storm passes. And we can't just run down to board it up and run back - we'd never make it back.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

I worry about the Caribbean medical students. This hurricane seems like serious business.

I saw a FB post from a parent whose child is a student at AUC on St Maarten. The parent posted that damage is serious, food and water limited, and fears of looting. Some students are there, some had not yet returned from a recent school break. The int'l airport has sustained major damage. There are plans to remove students via boats when it's safe.

My gut tells me that publicly AUC will downplay the situation so as to not cause a decrease in interest.

The Caribbs seem to use the pics of beautiful greenery and beaches to help snare prospective students. From pics I've seen, much of the green is now gone and areas look more like barren war zones.

 

[takeurmeds02]

I saw a FB post from a parent whose child is a student at AUC on St Maarten. The parent posted that damage is serious, food and water limited, and fears of looting. Some students are there, some had not yet returned from a recent school break. The int'l airport has sustained major damage. There are plans to remove students via boats when it's safe.

My gut tells me that publicly AUC will downplay the situation so as to not cause a decrease in interest.

The Caribbs seem to use the pics of beautiful greenery and beaches to help snare prospective students. From pics I've seen, much of the green is now gone and areas look more like barren war zones.

Yea I know a person at Saba and they were utterly disgusted at how the school handled (and is handling) the situation. The communique was even piss-poor. No mention of student safety, just, "hey so school starts back on Monday, see you there..."

 

[bananafish94]

I saw a FB post from a parent whose child is a student at AUC on St Maarten. The parent posted that damage is serious, food and water limited, and fears of looting. Some students are there, some had not yet returned from a recent school break. The int'l airport has sustained major damage. There are plans to remove students via boats when it's safe.

My gut tells me that publicly AUC will downplay the situation so as to not cause a decrease in interest.

The Caribbs seem to use the pics of beautiful greenery and beaches to help snare prospective students. From pics I've seen, much of the green is now gone and areas look more like barren war zones.

I'm not surprised. It's concerning -- I've seen pictures of entire islands in the Caribbean that are completely destroyed. And I know that they don't have nearly as many resources as the United States to deal with this sort of thing.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

Yea I know a person at Saba and they were utterly disgusted at how the school handled (and is handling) the situation. The communique was even piss-poor. No mention of student safety, just, "hey so school starts back on Monday, see you there..."

St Maarten has lost its airport, AUC is being mysterious about the campus condition but posted this in the last few hours

As we work to execute the evacuation plan, an academic team at AUC is working in parallel on a plan to continue the medical sciences program in the United States. There are many logistics to work out for this, but we are committed to enduring the current crisis and starting the September 2017 semester. We will share more information on this when it is available.

From the above it appears that they think they'll be able to commence fall semester in the USA? Is that even possible? @gonnif @Goro @gyngyn

Here is their most recent post:

**Posted 9/7 at 9:07 PM ET

Tonight we are finalizing plans to evacuate students, faculty, colleagues, and family members out of Sint Maarten. We will have details to announce very soon on a series of plans, each of which allows for different complicating factors including the closed airport, very choppy seas and the approaching Hurricane Jose. Our goal is to get our community members out of Sint Maarten as soon as it possible. We are preparing our community members to be ready to depart on very short notice.

We are tapping every resource and all manners of assistance, both public and private, to make this evacuation happen. In the meantime, we are working to replenish supplies for our Building 2 shelter, and doing our best to support each other during this crisis. The conditions on campus are not ideal by any means, but our community is demonstrating great resilience and strength through this difficult time.

Communication between the mainland US and the island is still very difficult. Over the last two days we have worked to relay news from campus and update family members on the safety and status of loved ones who are in Sint Maarten. We know some family members have been able to connect via text messages or calls, but service is not reliable. We all hope it improves with each day and that family members are cheered by hearing from those sheltering in Sint Maarten.

As we work to execute the evacuation plan, an academic team at AUC is working in parallel on a plan to continue the medical sciences program in the United States. There are many logistics to work out for this, but we are committed to enduring the current crisis and starting the September 2017 semester. We will share more information on this when it is available.

 

[Goro]

St Maarten has lost its airport, AUC is being mysterious about the campus condition but posted this in the last few hours

From the above it appears that they think they'll be able to commence fall semester in the USA? Is that even possible? @gonnif @Goro @gyngyn

Here is their most recent post:

Haven't a clue, but being that their curriculum is merely two years of Step I prep, all they need are some trailers for classrooms, I suppose.

 

[WingedOx]

So we're now at CAT 7 hurricane status at our house. And by that, I mean that my sister dropped off her three cats, which, added to my four cats, makes seven cats in this house. SDN should be proud.

I'm getting a little bit nervous since the track keeps pulling closer to us. Honestly, it's such a massive storm that it's going to take out nearly the entire state. I'm just hoping it gets a lot less powerful by the time it gets here. I'm more worried about our house, which is a few hours away, closer to the track, and in an area where the storm will be quite a bit stronger. Our renters have already gotten out all the hurricane shutters and seem to be on top of securing everything. But it feels weird to be so far away and to know that we won't have any idea how the house is until well after the storm passes. And we can't just run down to board it up and run back - we'd never make it back.

I think I'd rather be swept away in the flood waters than slowly killed by the allergy attack that being in your house would cause.

 

[WingedOx]

Haven't a clue, but being that their curriculum is merely two years of Step I prep, all they need are some trailers for classrooms, I suppose.

As a long-time SDNer, I'm frustrated with my inability to know this bit of trivia, but what was the last major Carib school to be taken out by a hurricane? Wasn't it also AUC that needed a new campus on a different island?

 

[DBC03]

After watching the track move over approximately 50 miles west every three hours, I'm beginning to wonder if this sucker isn't going into the Gulf and will only hit part of South Florida on its way. We have to dig a trench around the outside of our rental, so that will be a "fun" weekend activity. I honestly love living here, but weeks like this make me so tired.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

Haven't a clue, but being that their curriculum is merely two years of Step I prep, all they need are some trailers for classrooms, I suppose.

Lol
Hey why even need that. Maybe just online classes the students can do from home
Maybe this will bring back correspondence classes.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

The ms2 AUC student I referred to above is now saying that the school is telling her that they're looking to get them set up in Chicago, since Florida is not likely a viable option. Their fall semester was supposed to start either this past week or this next week, and now they're shopping for locations.

I don't know anything about how one sets up a MD med school in the US or anywhere, but since these Caribb schools aren't accredited by LCME, how would this even operate in the US? Don't they currently operate under some sort of European or whatever accreditation?

It would seem like this would open a can of worms.

I'm anticipating being contacted about how she can somehow enroll in a US med school.

 

[Goro]

The ms2 AUC student I referred to above is now saying that the school is telling her that they're looking to get them set up in Chicago, since Florida is not likely a viable option. Their fall semester was supposed to start either this past week or this next week, and now they're shopping for locations.

I don't know anything about how one sets up a MD med school in the US or anywhere, but since these Caribb schools aren't accredited by LCME, how would this even operate in the US? Don't they currently operate under some sort of European or whatever accreditation?

It would seem like this would open a can of worms.

I'm anticipating being contacted about how she can somehow enroll in a US med school.

I've been wondering if LCME can take them to court if they attempt to run an unaccredited MD school in the US. After all, I can't team up with gonnif and offer med school classes, and call it a school!

 

[PreMedMissteps]

I've been wondering if LCME can take them to court if they attempt to run an unaccredited MD school in the US. After all, I can't team up with gonnif and offer med school classes, and call it a school!

That's what I was wondering. If offshore MD schools could suddenly set up shop here w/o LCME accreditation, why would schools like Northstate worry about being accredited?

I wonder if they're thinking that sending MS3 and MS4 students to the states for clinical rotations is ok, so why not "send" MS1 and MS2 students here as well??? Since they start students at 2 or 3 different times per year, they'll be matriculating new students as well...not simply providing a safe place for continuing students.

As for you and @gonnif setting up a med school here, G2 Med has a nice ring to it.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

they allowed St. George students were allowed to continue under the auspices of Long Island University after the 1983 US invasion of Grenada.

@gonnif did they allow only us citizens to continue SGU education in US or did they allow int'ls as well? Wonder if it would be difficult/impossible for int'ls to get education visas to attend a school here that isn't accredited here.

Either way, it seems like a nose under the tent if this were to happen. Why bother ever going back. This is different from the invasion. In this case, the island and its infrastructure could be years from being restored.

Seems like the damaged med schools, AUC in particular, should find another int'l country to set up shop.