nationalized heathcare and dentistry

[teeth63a]

I am a rationalist who doesn't twist the facts for his own benefit.

Hard to imagine a rationalist supporting a bill that we will never be able to afford without raising taxes. Moreover, a bill that will not improve access or quality.

Listen to his (Obama's) rhetoric the past few weeks. He is hinting that middle class taxes will go up.

By the way, the McCain/Republican solution was to reform Medicare, not reinvent it. Flex spending accounts were another step in the right direction.

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[OceanDMD]

I am a rationalist who doesn't twist the facts for his own benefit.
Republicans agree there needs to be change, but never propose anything. Now, they are bringing up all this "why the rush?" Bull$hitical argument to kill any type of reform for the good of their boss, the inssurance companies. As I said before, there are about 4-5 corporatist democrats who do the same thing.
First of all, the administration is not really making a healthcare reform, but a health inssurance reform. They are going to offer a public option to encourage competition and and help the millions (talking about the 255, or 289) who are being ripped off by the private inssurance companies. Those who wish to keep their private inssurance will be free to do so.
Secondly, how is the health care quality going to deteriorate? Are they going to take away the advanced technology or the research studies away from the doctors? Oh, you mean doctors and dentists would be busy and not have enough time to provide quality care? But wait a minute, I thought there are so many recent grads struggling to find associate positions right now. See, everyone likes to get paid cash, but the problem is that the corporations (with the help of reps) have robbed people off so much in the past couple of decades that there is no more money left in people's pocket. Now, you have the choice to get paid by the inssurance companies, but the inssurance cost is also so high that many either can't afford it, or are opting out. Keep up with the status quo, and soon you will have the choice of, oh well, not getting paid at all.
By the way, many dental procedures are not covered by inssurance companies, and unlikey to be covered by the public option either. People who need to do prostho, ortho, surgeries, etc will still be coming in for you.
It's amazing how the propaganda of the republicans, who don't give a damn about anyone making less than at least a million dollars a year, easily deceives the average citizen to stand up and defend their bull**** (Check out the loser, Joe the Plumber). I assume you and many dentists here make less than a million dollars a year, and I probably won't make that much in the future either. Look at it this way. If something gets done for the good of the average U.S. citizen, you will eventually benefit from it. But if the inssurance corporations keep ripping people off, things will only get worse.
Btw, you said, "Obama doesn't understand health care." You are twisting stuff as if Obama is writting the bill himself. There are health care experts who write the bill, despite the fact you might be in disagreement with them. Who understands it then? The republican lobbyists? The way you say it sounds like, "Obama doesn't understand health care, but the RNC (Rush, Newt, Cheney) does."

There is nothing rational about your thinking. There is a reason why more people are against this healthcare plan than for it. Wake up dude. As a future professional you need to think a little better than this. This thing is so left its scaring liberals. And who are the "health care experts"? Are you kidding me? Did you hear that in an Obama speach? This isn't insurance reform. where the hell did you come up with that one. This a government/socialist health coverage program, that doesnt care about a balance sheet. It is NOT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, and thus can charge smaller premiums, putting all other insurances out of business. Now how is the government going to pay for this? Think about it. And dont say by taxing the rich. That isnt going to pay for it. Thats going to continue taking jobs away. I am rambling because rationality is in the conservative arguement, not these idiot liberals who thinking spending more money will help resolve the deficit. Are you fucccc__ing kidding me? Clueless. 95% of physicians and dentists will likely poo all over your "rationality". ARRRRRRRGHHHH. I am going to now go make myself a drink.

 

[Daurang]

Obama doesn't know health care because his real life experience is composed of hanging out with a bunch of radicals. It took him 6 months just to pick a white house puppy yet he expect to completely overturn the best health care system in the world (AND save money by creating new healthcare czars and new unionized healthcare government agencies ) in six weeks? His party pretty much control almost virtually all of government and all of mass media for a lonnnnnng time to come so why such a rush?







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[robhmnt]

There is nothing rational about your thinking. There is a reason why more people are against this healthcare plan than for it. Wake up dude. As a future professional you need to think a little better than this. This thing is so left its scaring liberals. And who are the "health care experts"? Are you kidding me? Did you hear that in an Obama speach? This isn't insurance reform. where the hell did you come up with that one. This a government/socialist health coverage program, that doesnt care about a balance sheet. It is NOT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, and thus can charge smaller premiums, putting all other insurances out of business. Now how is the government going to pay for this? Think about it. And dont say by taxing the rich. That isnt going to pay for it. Thats going to continue taking jobs away. I am rambling because rationality is in the conservative arguement, not these idiot liberals who thinking spending more money will help resolve the deficit. Are you fucccc__ing kidding me? Clueless. 95% of physicians and dentists will likely poo all over your "rationality". ARRRRRRRGHHHH. I am going to now go make myself a drink.

Enough of your condescending rhetoric, doc. Did you even read my post, before starting to mimic Glen Beck? It seems like you are more worried about the inssurance companies, while they don't even give a damn about you and your patients.
Yeah, you have to pay when you want to cover up a mess, or maybe you're thinking they should lower your tax just to fix all this republican-made mess? I even doubt that you and many other dentists' tax bracket would be affected. The people, including my father, who are making far more than a dentist don't even care about this, but the republican propagand makes people anxious about losing money they don't have.

It's the republican agenda of cutting taxes, crashing own towers, and getting in war that has put this country down, yet people easily fall in the trap of these greedy coporatists, who pretend as if they are looking for the American people. I would understand you if your benefits were defended by these republican clowns on TV or in politics, but I highly doubt you are the one they are trying to help. They continuously try to rob the average guy, and once the average guy is robbed more than this, your business will start to shrink more. You will always find a way to scapegoat the government though.

 

[Flipps]

I really don't understand the "public option". What's the point of simply making a government run health insurance company? Public companies cannot compete with private companies because they do not compete legitimately or fairly. Public companies cannot go bankrupt and can acquire easy emergency funds by having politicians forcefully levy tax money. Private companies have no such option. The public company can offer an inferior product yet still drive out the private firms because of the nature in which it competes. Hidden costs through taxation allow the public company to offer considerably lower sticker prices while still costing more per person.

It looks like whatever the reform ends up being will even further tie the healthcare system down to employers. This is incredibly stupid. Lose your job? There goes your healthcare. The vast majority of the problems with pre-existing conditions would not exist if it were not for the government engineered link between healthcare and employment. Healthcare insurance needs to be an individual's decision.

You want a "Republican" idea for reform? Give a refundable tax credit for the purchase of private insurance, eliminate the requirement for ANY business to provide healthcare, tax healthcare benefits through employers, and set up and allow people to divert a portion of their income to an untaxed "health savings account". There. Great increase in market competition, great increase in coverage, considerably cheaper than the current proposed "public option" monstrocity.


Luckily it looks like the health plan will not even include a public option. God bless blue dogs and the CBO.

 

[teeth63a]

It's the republican agenda of cutting taxes, crashing own towers, and getting in war that has put this country down...

Are you saying that the republicans were behind the 9/11 hijackings and fall of the world trade center? Even Bill Maher stays away from that one.

This dude is not drinking Kool Aid. He's ripping the packets open and eating the powder straight out of the bag.

(republicans) continuously try to rob the average guy, and once the average guy is robbed more than this, your business will start to shrink more. You will always find a way to scapegoat the government though.

Republicans trying to rob the average guy? Where's the evidence of that?
Oh yeah, let's let the democrats tax us to oblivion, that's a better plan.

Reading this guy's previous posts, I don't know if I should laugh at the trolling or fear the fact that's there's a chance that he might actually be serious.

 

[DrReo]

Republicans trying to rob the average guy?

The poor robbing the rich is more like it.

 

[robhmnt]

Are you saying that the republicans were behind the 9/11 hijackings and fall of the world trade center? Even Bill Maher stays away from that one.

Huh, you think anyone who wants to talk about the truth behind 9/11 would get a show on HBO, CNN, or any other major broadcasting company? Even the democrats choose to stay quiet about it, since proving the crime carried out by Bush and Cheney will disgrace the U.S. more than anything else in the world. Wake up! You're so naive to think a bunch of people from Afghanistan came here, hijacked our planes, and flied them over NYC right into the bulidings. Can't you see the obvious? Bring down the bankrupt towers, which need to be restructured for their asbestus for more than what they are worth, blame it on the arabs, attack those countries, steal the oil, make some billions at Haliburton, declare "mission accomplished", and make oil cheaper. Obviously some parts of the plan failed, but since we, Americans, are always scared of the boogieman, we will blame it on the terrorist without any rationale behind it.

 

[Flipps]

How does someone intelligent enough to make it into dental school seriously believe that the government was behind 9/11...

Granted, there are probably some that don't think Obama is a citizen. Stupidity is a bi-partisan affair.

 

[OceanDMD]

I think it is official now. Due not feed the troll robhmnt . Its best to ignore any comments or responses from something so ridiculous. Its a shame trolling like this and what it does to actual reasonable liberal views. Dont feed the troll.

 

[Cold Front]

So the government already provides health insurance to veterans , people with AIDS (under the Ryan White Act), to incarcerated people in federal institutions (about 7 million of them), etc.

From what I hear, those groups get decent healthcare, including dental. Expanding such system to national level (with surtax on the top 1% income group) maybe enough to reform the current crisis?

Hopefully something different than a nationalized medicaid will be the solution.

 

[Daurang]

How does someone intelligent enough to make it into dental school seriously believe that the government was behind 9/11...

Affirmative action?

 

[robhmnt]

Affirmative action?

You love your buddy, Pat Buchanan, huh? Let's assume I got in dental school with affirmative action. How would you explain my 99% on NBDE I? Keep on drinking the Hatorade guys. There are plenty that know the truth, but their proclivity to save a few percentage on taxes will entice them to believe anything republicans pull out of their *****.

 

[robhmnt]

How does someone intelligent enough to make it into dental school seriously believe that the government was behind 9/11...

Granted, there are probably some that don't think Obama is a citizen. Stupidity is a bi-partisan affair.

Hey, "intelligent" dude. If you are really open to knowing the bitter facts, explain the collapse of the third building (in case you know about it), which was not hit by any plane. You are at no level to assess my intelligence. My gross Anatomy professor believes the same thing, and I'm telling you, he won't "poo" on anyone's DDS degree.
Watch from 4:11, although I know this won't help you guys just like how nothing is sufficient for satisfying the freaking Birthers on Obama's citizenship.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuJimaumW4&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Flipps]

Hey, "intelligent" dude. If you are really open to knowing the bitter facts, explain the collapse of the third building (in case you know about it), which was not hit by any plane. You are at no level to assess my intelligence. My gross Anatomy professor believes the same thing, and I'm telling you, he won't "poo" on anyone's DDS degree.
Watch from 4:11, although I know this won't help you guys just like how nothing is sufficient for satisfying the freaking Birthers on Obama's citizenship.
[YOUTUBE]iEuJimaumW4[/YOUTUBE]

XD Something sort of funny about seeing a truther bash someone ELSE'S conspiracy theory.


Tower falls, tower damages building 7, building 7 begins to burn, building 7 loses structural integrity, building 7 falls. How is this hard to understand?

 

[DrReo]

You love your buddy, Pat Buchanan, huh? Let's assume I got in dental school with affirmative action. How would you explain my 99% on NBDE I? Keep on drinking the Hatorade guys. There are plenty that know the truth, but their proclivity to save a few percentage on taxes will entice them to believe anything republicans pull out of their *****.

You decided to work in professional school but were rewarded with an acceptance for not earning high remarks in undergraduate.

 

[Daurang]

Watch from 4:11.

I now have been converted and finally see the truth. Can you please put some infos/videos on the fake moon landing, too?

 

[OceanDMD]

You decided to work in professional school but were rewarded with an acceptance for not earning high remarks in undergraduate.

Stop feeding troll. Recommend ignore list.

 

[OceanDMD]

I now have been converted and finally see the truth. Can you please put some infos/videos on the fake moon landing, too?

Read post #68.

 

[OceanDMD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc



Check out this youtube video. This is our president explaining healthcare. What a clown, are you kidding me? This was before the idiots drank the kool aid and voted for him. Please, there is no excuse for this. And now are President is having a "beer summit". What a joke.

 

[DrReo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc



Check out this youtube video. This is our president explaining healthcare. What a clown, are you kidding me? This was before the idiots drank the kool aid and voted for him. Please, there is no excuse for this. And now are President is having a "beer summit". What a joke.

I agree. I just saw the "uh" count youtube video. I actually went to an Obama/Clinton rally for pure laughter, and his public speaking is similar to the videos. After Obama, I couldn't take Hillary so I had to leave the liberal infultrated dome.

 

[UCSFAlumni]

Just a thought but wondering how many others find it interesting that the insurance companies are FOR the current bill that mandates coverage. They wouldn't be for it if it mandated changes to their current way of doing business or should I say if it altered their income potential. In fact, the number of insured has decreased over the last year due to the recession and the bill would increase the number of enrollees. Something to consider.

I suspect insurance companies will make up any difference in revenue with higher volume (since 50 million or more will be new customers). The problem is, if public option is eliminated as is currently being discussed, then there are few remaining price constraints, and any health bill will end up being a license to profiteer. Overall costs will end up going up, although not to the extreme conservative op-ed columnists want to suggest. There are a number of up-front savings from concessions by Pharma, and I think also by the AMA, as I heard they were giving a thumbs up to the bill a week ago. Also, I think the emphasis on the modernization of preventative care will also yield tremendous savings, since many of the expensive treatments for chronic conditions have been shown to be completely preventable with early intervention and pro-active care.

Bottom line is, insurance will do ok regardless whether public option stays or goes, but they will do better if it is not around. And that is why I suspect they may be behind some of the lobbying against it.

 

[Berkeley83]

Insurance companies make more profit each year over the previous otherwise their stock values actually will drop. This is true for most any publicly traded company. Where do you think that profit will come from? Higher premiums and lowered reimbursements. The financial strain on families and companies providing health benefits will only worsen if this issue is not addressed-sooner than later.

Regards,

 

[DMDreaming]

I suspect insurance companies will make up any difference in revenue with higher volume (since 50 million or more will be new customers). The problem is, if public option is eliminated as is currently being discussed, then there are few remaining price constraints, and any health bill will end up being a license to profiteer. Overall costs will end up going up, although not to the extreme conservative op-ed columnists want to suggest. There are a number of up-front savings from concessions by Pharma, and I think also by the AMA, as I heard they were giving a thumbs up to the bill a week ago. Also, I think the emphasis on the modernization of preventative care will also yield tremendous savings, since many of the expensive treatments for chronic conditions have been shown to be completely preventable with early intervention and pro-active care.

Bottom line is, insurance will do ok regardless whether public option stays or goes, but they will do better if it is not around. And that is why I suspect they may be behind some of the lobbying against it.

I agree with your statement about prevention. However, it will take some time to see actual benefits from increases efforts in prevention. Likewise, eliminating pre-existing condition clauses will create a financial strain on the system especially in the short term. I haven't heard any of the politicos address this issue. The costs from the pre-existing conditions will easily surpass the premiums being paid for treatment.

Another area of concern is access. If there aren't any provisions for increasing provider numbers, the waiting time for an appointment and/or treatment will increase. I'd also like to see this and the rising cost of education for medical/dental providers addressed.

 

[Berkeley83]

I'd also like to see this and the rising cost of education for medical/dental providers addressed.

Healthcare providers become less altruistic and more selfish as time passes after graduation/completion of training. Given that no one is so altruistic as to commit 4-8 years and incur 100s of thousands in debt (and lost earning potential) just to work in a "profession" that pays less than 100k , you will either see a different pool of graduates who truly are altruistic (not just on paper) and naive about their future, or there will be some sort of goverment forgiveness plan for those who sign on the new plan. This is similar to the military money that is paid back in service after training.


Regards

 

[UCB05]

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[teeth63a]

Healthcare providers become less altruistic and more selfish as time passes after graduation/completion of training.

Yes, and we are a truly evil country full of racists, who intentionally bomb civilians, torture prisoners, and are selfish to the core.

I've heard this puerile song and dance before...it's no wonder that this broad sweeping and inaccurate line of reasoning comes from someone named "Berkeley".


Oh yeah you gotta love how 99% of 9/11 Truthers are: college kids, computer programmers, economists, physicists, and other guys playing Dungeons and Dragons in their parents' basement, none of them an expert of engineering relevance. I love it how quick engineers, metallurgists and other experts shoot down those theories.

 

[Berkeley83]

Yes, and we are a truly evil country full of racists, who intentionally bomb civilians, torture prisoners, and are selfish to the core.

I've heard this puerile song and dance before...it's no wonder that this broad sweeping and inaccurate line of reasoning comes from someone named "Berkeley".


Oh yeah you gotta love how 99% of 9/11 Truthers are: college kids, computer programmers, economists, physicists, and other guys playing Dungeons and Dragons in their parents' basement, none of them an expert of engineering relevance. I love it how quick engineers, metallurgists and other experts shoot down those theories.

Your generalizations are inappropriate and add nothing to this discussion. By your response (after you wipe away the unfortunate vitriol) you believe the healthcare provider becomes more altruistic/less selfish as they progress from student to fully established practitioner? Open your eyes and stop with the hate.

 

[DMDreaming]

Healthcare providers become less altruistic and more selfish as time passes after graduation/completion of training. Given that no one is so altruistic as to commit 4-8 years and incur 100s of thousands in debt (and lost earning potential) just to work in a "profession" that pays less than 100k , you will either see a different pool of graduates who truly are altruistic (not just on paper) and naive about their future, or there will be some sort of goverment forgiveness plan for those who sign on the new plan. This is similar to the military money that is paid back in service after training.


Regards

I personally believe most of the dental students in my class have a core of altruism they would like to preserve as they move into the working world. However, the cost of education coupled with the costs of doing business forces altruism to the back seat.

The government already has 2 forms of loan forgiveness plans. You mentioned the military but there is also the Health Service Corp which was recently in the news because they received more funding as part of the stimulus package. IMO, this program is severely lacking. Yes, they will pay $50K toward student loans in exchange for 2 years of service at one of their clinics but this amount is just a drop in the bucket in comparison to the astronomical costs some of us will accumulate during dental school.

 

[Berkeley83]

I personally believe most of the dental students in my class have a core of altruism they would like to preserve as they move into the working world. However, the cost of education coupled with the costs of doing business forces altruism to the back seat.

The government already has 2 forms of loan forgiveness plans. You mentioned the military but there is also the Health Service Corp which was recently in the news because they received more funding as part of the stimulus package. IMO, this program is severely lacking. Yes, they will pay $50K toward student loans in exchange for 2 years of service at one of their clinics but this amount is just a drop in the bucket in comparison to the astronomical costs some of us will accumulate during dental school.

Good input. My earlier statement is applicable to any profession and in any country- something a previous poster failed to see. This is just human nature, to become more selfish the more one has to lose. You don't have to be a liberal to see this. I am not advocating forgiveness programs, nor even the need to overhaul the health care system, but the reality is that health care is BIG BUSINESS. 40+million uninsured? Try 60 or 80 million or more as the costs keep climbing. Big Business (Insurance, HMOs, Pharma) is all about profits (just google their profit margins) and they will get it by charging more and more while paying out less and less (to you). If it gets to that point where reimbursements are so small that it makes no financial sense to become a physician/dentist/etc. then the pool will become smaller and less qualified, at which point either reimbursements will need to be increased or education/training must be compensated.

 

[HookEmBP]

Huh, you think anyone who wants to talk about the truth behind 9/11 would get a show on HBO, CNN, or any other major broadcasting company? Even the democrats choose to stay quiet about it, since proving the crime carried out by Bush and Cheney will disgrace the U.S. more than anything else in the world. Wake up! You're so naive to think a bunch of people from Afghanistan came here, hijacked our planes, and flied them over NYC right into the bulidings. Can't you see the obvious? Bring down the bankrupt towers, which need to be restructured for their asbestus for more than what they are worth, blame it on the arabs, attack those countries, steal the oil, make some billions at Haliburton, declare "mission accomplished", and make oil cheaper. Obviously some parts of the plan failed, but since we, Americans, are always scared of the boogieman, we will blame it on the terrorist without any rationale behind it.

It is downright frightening that someone with your mentality made it into professional school. I'm speechless. Seriously.

 

[DrJeff]

It is downright frightening that someone with your mentality made it into professional school. I'm speechless. Seriously.

Come on now, that's JUST the type that the left LOVES to court! They'll buy into almost any far fetched idea the left pitches and fully drink the "Kool-aid" that they give on the home front.

 

[kato999]

The people, including my father, who are making far more than a dentist don't even care about this.

This quote explains a ton.

As a side note, Obama keeps saying that we can keep our current health care coverage if we want to, which is total BS. He fully supported a single payer gov't run program from the beginning.

I just found out my current plan, a high deductible health savings account plan, would not qualify under the bill that is going through the House right now, so I would have to find another insurance plan.

 

[OceanDMD]

This quote explains a ton.

As a side note, Obama keeps saying that we can keep our current health care coverage if we want to, which is total BS. He fully supported a single payer gov't run program from the beginning.

I just found out my current plan, a high deductible health savings account plan, would not qualify under the bill that is going through the House right now, so I would have to find another insurance plan.

Wait a minute....you are another one of those planted conservative riot promoting idiots right? I think Im going to have to email the white house about your fishy comments on health care.

 

[denner]

Wait a minute....you are another one of those planted conservative riot promoting idiots right? I think Im going to have to email the white house about your fishy comments on health care.

I already emailed them about you, because I think anybody who talks about fishy stuff is fishy and you smell like fish.

(on a side note, man I hate that @$$clown. Oops, now I'm probably considered a right wing racist terrorist and will be targeted by a roving band of ACORN members all day because they obviously don't have any real jobs that they have to go to)

 

[KOM]

The worst part of this potential reform is they want to force everyone to buy into the program.

Read this article about an idea for reform that I think needs to be addressed, before they begin to punish those who make good lifestyle choices.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32306655/ns/health-health_care

Our countries health care crisis is primarily because of people's poor lifestyle choices. Smoking, eating too much, etc.

If you're fat, don't complain about the price of health care for your malignant hypertension and heart failure.

If you're smoking, don't complain about the price of health care for resecting your bronchiolar tumor.

 

[aphistis]

What do you call people who honestly disagree with the president today? Terrorists.

What did you call them for the preceding eight years? Moveon.org.

 

[denner]

What do you call people who honestly disagree with the president today? Terrorists.

What did you call them for the preceding eight years? Moveon.org.

Don't forget "un-american"

"Let the facts be heard," they wrote. "These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views -- but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades."
- Obama's puppetmaster AKA Pelosi

Isn't that what they're doing by tossing aside honest protests as fabricated and calling anyone who disagrees with them "angry mobs."?

These people can't be dumb enough to not see the hypocrisy in these statements.

 

[reapply2007]

Don't be hatin' -- go relax by reading some nice, soothing how high do i need to score on the NBDE to get into ortho threads.

IBTL.

 

[Oracle DMD]

at least everyone will be able to get some healthcare! that's awesome.

 

[Guy Smiley]

at least everyone will be able to get some healthcare! that's awesome.

As opposed to now where if you show up at the ER you get turned away?

 

[KOM]

My wife is in her 3rd year med. school rotation right now and she says part of the problem of rising health care costs is

a) too many doc's practicing defensive medicine (ex - ordering every test in the book) for fear of lawsuits. State's and Fed govt. foot the excess bill.

b) Shortage of family doc's who are now referring a large percentage of patients to the ER for common ailments, because they can't handle the demand. Hospital's become less efficient, costs go up, etc.

c) Morbidly obese patient's, chronic drug users, smokers, seeking care w/out being able to afford it.

d) Prices of prescription drugs.

e) Some physician's salaries too inflated. Radiologists making way more than internal med and family doc's? Why?

list goes on...

In relation to a) above - Obama won't consider putting a cap on lawsuits because of his law degree. Besides, doc's are perfect...they should NEVER make a mistake right?

 

[aphistis]

As opposed to now where if you show up at the ER you get turned away?

I call BS. Ever heard of EMTALA?

 

[denner]

I call BS. Ever heard of EMTALA?

Way too much sarcasm going on, it's making everyone confused.

Oracle was being sarcastic... I think
then guy was being sarcastic because he thought oracle was serious (or maybe he thought oracle was being sarcastic but wanted to add his own)...I think
but I think you're serious, because you thought they were serious.

Got it?

Of course, I could be completely wrong because it's hard to detect sarcasm through a computer monitor, in which case, this is even more hilarious to me.

 

[gryffindor]

Way too much sarcasm going on, it's making everyone confused.

Oracle was being sarcastic... I think
then guy was being sarcastic because he thought oracle was serious (or maybe he thought oracle was being sarcastic but wanted to add his own)...I think
but I think you're serious, because you thought they were serious.

Got it?

Of course, I could be completely wrong because it's hard to detect sarcasm through a computer monitor, in which case, this is even more hilarious to me.

I thought the "roll eyes smiley" next to GuySmiley's comment meant sarcasm.

 

[Guy Smiley]

I thought the "roll eyes smiley" next to GuySmiley's comment meant sarcasm.

You know how to read me.

 

[denner]

I thought the "roll eyes smiley" next to GuySmiley's comment meant sarcasm.

so did I, my post was directed at aphistis because he was calling BS and bringing up EMTALA on Guy's sarcastic comment...

 

[Oracle DMD]

Way too much sarcasm going on, it's making everyone confused.

Oracle was being sarcastic... I think
then guy was being sarcastic because he thought oracle was serious (or maybe he thought oracle was being sarcastic but wanted to add his own)...I think
but I think you're serious, because you thought they were serious.

Got it?

Of course, I could be completely wrong because it's hard to detect sarcasm through a computer monitor, in which case, this is even more hilarious to me.

im not being sarcastic at all.im for a nationalized heathcare option. i think it will keep private insurance honest while providing basic coverage to everyone. until there is a single bill to discuss, i really don't think there's enough to talk about though. reform is happening, but what kind and how is still up in the air.

 

[Oracle DMD]

As opposed to now where if you show up at the ER you get turned away?

ummm i think the point is to get care BEFORE you need to go to the ER since the ER is not supposed to be for anything but...emergencies. maybe after the reform the ER could be used for actual emergencies! how exciting. people might not have to wait for hours to be seen in the ER!

 

[denner]

im not being sarcastic at all.im for a nationalized heathcare option. i think it will keep private insurance honest while providing basic coverage to everyone. until there is a single bill to discuss, i really don't think there's enough to talk about though. reform is happening, but what kind and how is still up in the air.

my bad man...

Would you be for it if it included dentistry though like the NHS?