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What happens if you take a full 4-year HPSP scholarship from the Navy and you just don't apply to the Navy thru ERAS come residency application time? Can they kick you out based on that and what are the consequences? Not trying to fan the flames, just playing Devil's Advocate. Do you just automatically get a 1-year deferral?
 

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Integra99 said:
What happens if you take a full 4-year HPSP scholarship from the Navy and you just don't apply to the Navy thru ERAS come residency application time? Can they kick you out based on that and what are the consequences? Not trying to fan the flames, just playing Devil's Advocate. Do you just automatically get a 1-year deferral?

You will get a one year deferment for civilian internship then be assigned to a gmo tour on a ship or with the marines. Flight surgery and undersea are still possible for your gmo time but much harder to get the applications completed.

If you have already committed to hpsp it is much better to do a military internship than one year of a civilian internship. Higher pay and acrue leave time as well as other incidentals. You still have the option of getting out after you complete your full committment.

That being said I would apply for a full deferment if I were in your shoes. that way you finish your residency outright and then owe your original contract time as a bcp. Although the number and type of FDs vary from year to yearso its no gaurantee.

If you havent signed up with hpsp then I like others here would steer you away to make the decision later after finishing residency. There are some decent loan repayment plans available if you still want to join the military. Quite honestly if money is your only motive, then the time you will spend in the military is not worth the savings. And depending on you chosen specialty may not actually be saving money for you at all.

just my opinion.
 

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Integra99 said:
What happens if you take a full 4-year HPSP scholarship from the Navy and you just don't apply to the Navy thru ERAS come residency application time? Can they kick you out based on that and what are the consequences? Not trying to fan the flames, just playing Devil's Advocate. Do you just automatically get a 1-year deferral?
As per the GME-1 instruction, NAVMEDEDTRACOM NOTICE 1524, dated 16 May 2005, it states:

8. Failure to Submit or Complete Application. All Navy-sponsored USUHS and AFHPSP graduates will be assigned to training by the 2005 JSGMESB regardless of the completeness of their application file. Failure to submit or complete your application will result in your needs and desires not being fully considered by the JSGMESB.

Here's the instruction link: http://www-nshs.med.navy.mil/gme1/gme1help.htm
 

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Globus P said:
As per the GME-1 instruction, NAVMEDEDTRACOM NOTICE 1524, dated 16 May 2005, it states:

8. Failure to Submit or Complete Application. All Navy-sponsored USUHS and AFHPSP graduates will be assigned to training by the 2005 JSGMESB regardless of the completeness of their application file. Failure to submit or complete your application will result in your needs and desires not being fully considered by the JSGMESB.

Here's the instruction link: http://www-nshs.med.navy.mil/gme1/gme1help.htm
If you do not apply they will screw you with what no one else wants...either apply for Navy internship or get a full deferment. The people I saw who did a one year deferement where LOST once they were pulled back on Active Duty. They had no idea how the system worked and it made life very difficulty for them.
 

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I agree with every previous poster. You will NOT help yourself in any way by not applying for GME-1, to the contrary, you will be doing the worse possible thing for someone in your position. From everything I've read and been told that will be a 1 year deferment followed by a GMO tour. You would be helping the rest of us out, however, by taking one of those 1 year deferments and filling a GMO billet, but I doubt that is your intent!

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Don't most people end up doing a GMO tour anyways unless you're doing primary care (IM, Peds, OB, etc)?

To get a full deferment, I'm assuming you have to be a superstar med student and have done a clerkship with the Navy, which am definitely not.

What is the difference between doing a Navy internship or civilian internship when you have to do a GMO anyways?
 

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Lovella said:
Don't most people end up doing a GMO tour anyways unless you're doing primary care (IM, Peds, OB, etc)?

To get a full deferment, I'm assuming you have to be a superstar med student and have done a clerkship with the Navy, which am definitely not.

What is the difference between doing a Navy internship or civilian internship when you have to do a GMO anyways?
Ive already touched on this in my post.

Higher pay, accrue leave time, getting your feet wet in a lower stress way as opposed to jumping right into a opperational billet. More interaction with the detailors and others who can help you with billet assignments. Time to learn about pay and other administrative needs.

Bottom line...Can you imagine your first week on active duty and finding yourself in a combat zone? Ive seen it and as humerous as it is to see someone wearing their flak groin protector around their throat. Its not the best way to assimilate into the opperational world.

Unfortunately this is the boat you jumped into when you signed up with HPSP. You can always do your time and get out later(another interesting topic for consideration). But for now Do yourself a favor and apply for military GME if you dont get a FD.