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Maybe testing in November isn’t something you feel safe to do right now. April or May 2021 dates may be a far better option for you. And once we resume testing, we’ll be adding additional sessions, so months that currently appear full will have openings to accommodate you. Further, this year all COMLEX-USA transcripts sent to ERAS will include special notation stating that the COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE exam has been suspended since March 7, 2020. The intent is to provide residency program directors greater insight and transparency into the delayed availability of COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE scores for candidates.

While we still consider demonstration of the clinical skills assessed by the COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE important to the licensure examination series, and a requirement to sit for COMLEX-USA Level 3, we want to emphasize that we want to you to come to test when you’re comfortable doing so. And if you anticipate not taking your COMLEX-USA L2-PE exam for a prolonged period of time, we encourage you to request a fee refund and reach out to reschedule your exam when you’re ready.

Whether it be in the classroom or clinical setting, live or virtual, we hope the start of your latest semester is going well. We look forward to seeing you soon (or as soon as you are ready!)


NBOME has also posted a new Youtube video on their protocols:

COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE - COVID-19 Health & Safety
 
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Maybe testing in November isn’t something you feel safe to do right now. April or May 2021 dates may be a far better option for you. And once we resume testing, we’ll be adding additional sessions, so months that currently appear full will have openings to accommodate you. Further, this year all COMLEX-USA transcripts sent to ERAS will include special notation stating that the COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE exam has been suspended since March 7, 2020. The intent is to provide residency program directors greater insight and transparency into the delayed availability of COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE scores for candidates.

While we still consider demonstration of the clinical skills assessed by the COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE important to the licensure examination series, and a requirement to sit for COMLEX-USA Level 3, we want to emphasize that we want to you to come to test when you’re comfortable doing so. And if you anticipate not taking your COMLEX-USA L2-PE exam for a prolonged period of time, we encourage you to request a fee refund and reach out to reschedule your exam when you’re ready.

Whether it be in the classroom or clinical setting, live or virtual, we hope the start of your latest semester is going well. We look forward to seeing you soon (or as soon as you are ready!)


NBOME has also posted a new Youtube video on their protocols:
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COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE - COVID-19 Health & Safety
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How will an asterisk prevent PDs from filtering applicants w/o a passing PE ?
 

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How will an asterisk prevent PDs from filtering applicants w/o a passing PE ?
They won't even read how the comlex is scored so they definitely aren't figuring out all the issues with the PE.
 
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So is this their big announcement supposed to have been on October 1?? Basically we are still boned
 
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So if I have mine scheduled for January should I pull the trigger on a refund and just bank I don’t get screwed?
 
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The link is actually dead and no sign of that page when you search the title.
 
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I do wonder what they’ll think of their greedy game when a bunch of people take advantage of the step 3 loop hole and just get licensed that way. Can’t say I’ll feel sorry for them since they could’ve avoided this if they’d just followed suit with the nbme. Now they’re gonna lose on level 3 fees lolz
 
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The link is actually dead and no sign of that page when you search the title.
Interesting. Does that mean they took it down?

The Youtube video is still there if you search for COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE - COVID-19 Health & Safety
 

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Interesting. Does that mean they took it down?

The Youtube video is still there if you search for COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE - COVID-19 Health & Safety
They said they are making a new website or something but I tried to find it in a lot of spots and it wasn't there or in the search bar. Youtube is probably not even on their mind. Lots of companies leave up old youtube stuff on accident.

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Did you see it on the NBOME website or just on youtube, @msnbc2020? The YouTube video was uploaded 4 hours ago. It probably just means they haven't fixed their actual website if no one ever saw it there first and they just happened to upload it to YouTube first.

Also, of course comments are turned off on the video. Wouldn't want to hear how objectively stupid they...
 
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The Google Cache version of the page is still available:
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If you google search "Not Ready to Test – Not a Problem nbome" you can find the cached version of the entire page
 
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They said they are making a new website or something but I tried to find it in a lot of spots and it wasn't there or in the search bar. Youtube is probably not even on their mind. Lots of companies leave up old youtube stuff on accident.

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Did you see it on the NBOME website or just on youtube, @msnbc2020? The YouTube video was uploaded 4 hours ago. It probably just means they haven't fixed their actual website if no one ever saw it there first and they just happened to upload it to YouTube first.

Also, of course comments are turned off on the video. Wouldn't want to hear how objectively stupid they...
saw it on their website and they make several references to that doc on their health + safety youtube video. i think they will probably be re-releasing that announcement in the next few days
 
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Here is the full text from the cached page. The bolded is all you really need to know about what's coming October 1st. Emphasis mine:

Not Ready to Test – Not a Problem
September 24, 2020

It has been a unique learning experience to live through a pandemic. We’ve watched those around us adapt to changing circumstances almost daily. We’ve seen innovation unfold in real time to meet evolving needs. We’ve witnessed tremendous growth in areas like telehealth and seen other areas of healthcare bounce back better and stronger than anticipated. We hear so much about the “new-normal” and we all know it will consist of some tried and true processes while incorporating new ideas and approaches.

We’re ready to find NBOME’s “new-normal” as well, and are in the final stages of our plans to resume COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE testing. But even though we’re ready, you might not be. And that’s okay!

As we all look to re-engage with activities that were relatively routine prior to the pandemic disrupting our daily lives — like preparing for, and taking COMLEX-USA exams — we know there continues to be significant apprehension, especially when it comes to travel safety for our testing candidates.

While we can’t impact or influence the safety of your travel to and from our NBOME NCCSTs to take your COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE exam, we can promise you two things:

First, we are doing everything possible to ensure you are safe when you walk in the door of our testing centers. We’ve spent our exam hiatus enhancing our cleaning procedures and modifying the exam experience to incorporate best practices for safety and wellness. We’ve explored numerous mask options to find one that mitigates spread of aerosols and droplets while safely providing both candidates and standardized patients the ability to see each other’s facial expressions. Once in the exam center, you will be provided with the mask to use as opposed to the one you wear into the testing center. A video showing use of the mask is available on our website. Despite our research, we realize some will feel better testing in an N95 mask. If this is you, please bring your N95 mask to the testing center for use during the examination.

Second, thanks to the temporary modification of the graduation requirement from the Commission on Osteopathic Accreditation (COCA) for the classes of 2020 and 2021, you can best determine when you feel comfortable to take the exam. COCA’s decision provides ‘deans of accredited COMs the discretion to allow students who would otherwise be scheduled to be in the 2021 graduating class the option to graduate and receive the DO degree without having passed the COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE clinical skills examination’. Essentially, at the discretion of each COM, candidates in the class of 2021 may still be able to graduate without COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE scores if they have met all other graduation requirements. Check with your COM to see if this may be an option for you.

Maybe testing in November isn’t something you feel safe to do right now. April or May 2021 dates may be a far better option for you. And once we resume testing, we’ll be adding additional sessions, so months that currently appear full will have openings to accommodate you. Further, this year all COMLEX-USA transcripts sent to ERAS will include special notation stating that the COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE exam has been suspended since March 7, 2020. The intent is to provide residency program directors greater insight and transparency into the delayed availability of COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE scores for candidates.

While we still consider demonstration of the clinical skills assessed by the COMLEX-USA Level 2-PE important to the licensure examination series, and a requirement to sit for COMLEX-USA Level 3, we want to emphasize that we want to you to come to test when you’re comfortable doing so. And if you anticipate not taking your COMLEX-USA L2-PE exam for a prolonged period of time, we encourage you to request a fee refund and reach out to reschedule your exam when you’re ready.

Whether it be in the classroom or clinical setting, live or virtual, we hope the start of your latest semester is going well. We look forward to seeing you soon (or as soon as you are ready!)
 
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i guess we could all just request our refund now. wait to see where we match. if it happens to be in FL/PA etc, we register and take it. if not, we collect our diplomas, take Step 3 and ride off into the sunset.
 
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also what a legit miserable testing experience this will be for staff, SPs, and students.
anyone signed up to take it that first week, pleeeeease report back with your experiences
 
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First, we are doing everything possible to ensure you are safe when you walk in the door of our testing centers. We’ve spent our exam hiatus enhancing our cleaning procedures and modifying the exam experience to incorporate best practices for safety and wellness. We’ve explored numerous mask options to find one that mitigates spread of aerosols and droplets while safely providing both candidates and standardized patients the ability to see each other’s facial expressions. Once in the exam center, you will be provided with the mask to use as opposed to the one you wear into the testing center. A video showing use of the mask is available on our website. Despite our research, we realize some will feel better testing in an N95 mask. If this is you, please bring your N95 mask to the testing center for use during the examination.
Here is my N95 mask:
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I swear. the NBOME and their Pzar Gimple are the biggest *****s on the planet. If their was a pill opposite of Viagra. They would make it.
 
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I could see them encouraging refunds just to massively raise the price when people re-register.
 
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Hey if they’re really blinding scores on PE on ERAS, would it be a match violation to ask if a candidate has passed it in an interview?

If I’m a PD, all things being equal I’d pick the candidate who won’t have to take time off to take this thing during intern year and it looks like we’re heading down the path of them forcing this in DO students no matter what—even if they’re already physicians.
 
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Hey if they’re really blinding scores on PE on ERAS, would it be a match violation to ask if a candidate has passed it in an interview?

If I’m a PD, all things being equal I’d pick the candidate who won’t have to take time off to take this thing during intern year and it looks like we’re heading down the path of them forcing this in DO students no matter what—even if they’re already physicians.
Who said they are blinding scores?
 
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