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Discussion in 'What Are My Chances?' started by HDMTX, May 18, 2014.

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  1. HDMTX

    HDMTX GU Med Onc 10+ Year Member

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    Practicing MD here and used to use SDN as a resource way back when I was applying in '99. Been away for a while and a bit lost when a friend of mine came to me asking for advice. Here's the short end of it:

    Early 30s
    ORM
    CA Resident
    Non-trad, librarian
    UG GPA 3.1 (sGPA likely near this)
    Grad GPA 3.6
    SMP GPA 3.97
    MCAT: 12B 13V 10P

    I honestly wasn't sure if he would get auto cut from several schools given the UG GPA regardless of how well he's done in SMP and on his MCAT. He's trying to compile a list now to submit 6/1.
     
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  3. OneTwoThreeFour

    OneTwoThreeFour 2+ Year Member

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    High tiers may cut, but I would assume that, given his life experience and obvious ability to perform the class work (via SMP GPA), he would get an acceptance SOMEWHERE.
    Now, if he has location limitations (family), it would be difficult for him to count on an acceptance to any one target school.
     
  4. HDMTX

    HDMTX GU Med Onc 10+ Year Member

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    No geographic limitations...

    I gave him this prelim list, please edit as again I'm out if touch... I had a few supposed autoinvite schools on there like UM, Putt, Vandy, but wasn't sure if his GPA would disqualify him.

    All UCs, USC, LLU
    Colorado
    Quinnipiac
    GW
    Georgetown
    Miller
    Emory
    Iowa
    Chicago Med
    Illinois
    Stritch
    Rush
    Tulane
    Boston
    U Michigan
    Michigan State
    Beaumont
    St Louis
    Wake Forest
    Creighton
    Dartmouth
    Nevada
    Cooper
    Albany
    SUNY-Buffalo
    SUNY-Stony
    SUNY-Downstate
    SUNY-Upstate
    Hofstra
    NYMed
    Rochester
    Einstein
    Mt Sinai
    Case
    OSU
    Toledo
    Cinci
    OHSU
    Drexel
    PSU
    Pitt
    Jefferson
    Temple
    Vandy
    Baylor
    EVMS
    VCU
    Vermont
    Med Coll Wisconsin

     
  5. Goro

    Goro 7+ Year Member

    There are med schools that believe in the power of redemption. The ones I know about are on this list, and more...since I think the low-tiers will give the most amount of love.

    My suggested list:


    USC, LLU
    Quinnipiac
    GW
    Georgetown
    Miller
    Rush
    Tulane
    Boston
    Beaumont
    St Louis
    Wake Forest
    Creighton
    Albany
    Hofstra
    NYMed
    Case
    Drexel
    PSU
    Jefferson
    Temple
    EVMS
    VCU
    Med Coll Wisconsin
    Rosy Franklin
    Any other new MD school
    Any DO program.
     
  6. HDMTX

    HDMTX GU Med Onc 10+ Year Member

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    OK, update and a definite correction:

    His UG GPA was 3.1 (English) with NO science courses
    Masters non-Sci: 3.7
    Pistbacc was 3.97 (100% med prereqs)

    Does that mean that since he never took a science course before SMP that he can use the SMP GPA as a sGPA?
    This is confusing me.
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2014
  7. OneTwoThreeFour

    OneTwoThreeFour 2+ Year Member

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    Welcome to the wonderful world of 21st century medical school admissions!
    SMPs are usually graduate/medical school coursework, not the typical Bio 101/Phys 101 courses. So I'd make sure with him that he didn't in fact do a post-bacc. Otherwise, I think he may have a N/A science GPA (because masters programs aren't factored into GPA/sGPA calculations).
     
  8. LostinLift

    LostinLift 2+ Year Member

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    I would take out Colorado and Illinois simply based on OOS tuition and relatively low chance of acceptance. GW and Georgetown get so many apps, unless they agree with their mission/vision/really want the school I wouldn't include them. Michigan state I believe is low OOS acceptance, same with St. Louis, Nevada, the SUNYS, OSU. I believe Dartmouth and Vandy are sticklers for grades and wouldn't waste the money. Definitely some more you can take out.
     
  9. LostinLift

    LostinLift 2+ Year Member

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    Also I didn't know there were SMPs for pre-reqs, in fact I don't believe there are... But yes it would have to count.
     
  10. HDMTX

    HDMTX GU Med Onc 10+ Year Member

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    Thanks for all the input! It's much appreciated! I was incorrect. It was a post-bacc:

    http://extension.fullerton.edu/healthprofessions/ps_classes.aspx

    It's apparently "linked" to GWU and Western. Being a post-bacc and his only science his sGPA becomes 3.97? Despite a great sGPA, the original ug GPA of 3.1 still takes him out of contention for a number of schools I'd presume?
     
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