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[drcardi]

Hello,

So I am currently enrolled in my first semester SMP program. So I have not been doing to hot this semester and it looks like I will be receiving two C's, one of which is in a 7 credit med school anatomy course. I know I blew it. Since I am only taking 14 credits my gpa will be well below a 3.0. I really tried my best. I put in endless hours of studying , but I still am not getting the grades I thought I could achieve. The only problem is that I had an interview for another medical school already early this week. If I am possibly accepted , what should I say about my grades. I am currently in finals week and I am heavily considering dropping out because I am not confident that I can actually pass my finals. Help any advice please on what I should do.

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[GypsyHummus]

If your MCAT is above a 490, I would Look into Podiatry schools, see if you can deal with feet and ankles. That or optometry I’ve seen people accepted with 2.8-3.0 depending on their OAT score.

People will snicker and laugh at the notion of DPM school, especially here on the forums, but there have been plenty of people in your shoes (pun intended) who have decided on the DPM route in place of MD/DO when they couldnt get in and are now practicing docs. Foot docs with a limited license, but docs nonetheless. I would shadow and see if its something you would be interested in.

A below 3.0 SMP does not bode well, for many professional programs not just MD/DO. As many ADCOM have said on the forums, one needs to be Aceing the SMP, not barely passing with a 2.8 or whatever you have. SMPs are really last ditch efforts to show you can handle medical school. Med school itself is about 3X harder than the SMP, so if someone can’t pass it, how would they pass Med school? Granted, you only need a 2.0 GPA in Med school, but you are also taking more classes in Med school with more labs. And it only gets harder every year until 4th year (so I am told). I know it’s not what you want to hear.

If you are already accepted tho at a medical school, all you need to do is pass your classes.

If this was me, and I was seriously close to not passing, I would take the W.

Your medical career, despite what others will say, is not entirely over, but you may have to take a break from school and do something else for a while. It will be up to you to determine if are willing to sacrifice time money and effort again to have even a shot at medical school. For many, it might not be worth it. Despite what people will display and tell themselves, there is a life outside of medicine, and it is not the end of the world if someone doesnt get to be a physician. There are other perfectly respectable careers out there that would cost a lot less to get into, and might be just as fulfilling as being a doctor.

Good luck

 

[Goro]

Hello,

So I am currently enrolled in my first semester SMP program. So I have not been doing to hot this semester and it looks like I will be receiving two C's, one of which is in a 7 credit med school anatomy course. I know I blew it. Since I am only taking 14 credits my gpa will be well below a 3.0. I really tried my best. I put in endless hours of studying , but I still am not getting the grades I thought I could achieve. The only problem is that I had an interview for another medical school already early this week. If I am possibly accepted , what should I say about my grades. I am currently in finals week and I am heavily considering dropping out because I am not confident that I can actually pass my finals. Help any advice please on what I should do.

I can't sugar coat this: You have shown that medical school will be more than you can handle, and now it's time for Plan B.

You're not going to get accepted. In fact, no med school is doing you any favors by admitting you when you're at such great risk for failing.

 

[Blanky]

What was your GPA and Mcat prior?

 

[workaholic181]

Hello,

So I am currently enrolled in my first semester SMP program. So I have not been doing to hot this semester and it looks like I will be receiving two C's, one of which is in a 7 credit med school anatomy course. I know I blew it. Since I am only taking 14 credits my gpa will be well below a 3.0. I really tried my best. I put in endless hours of studying , but I still am not getting the grades I thought I could achieve. The only problem is that I had an interview for another medical school already early this week. If I am possibly accepted , what should I say about my grades. I am currently in finals week and I am heavily considering dropping out because I am not confident that I can actually pass my finals. Help any advice please on what I should do.

You should finish the semester OP. Don't get into hypotheticals about what would happen if you said xyz to the school you interviewed at if you get in. Just finish the semester and take it step by step.

PM me if you'd like to chat more. Good luck.

 

[HarmonicConvergence]

Hello,

So I am currently enrolled in my first semester SMP program. So I have not been doing to hot this semester and it looks like I will be receiving two C's, one of which is in a 7 credit med school anatomy course. I know I blew it. Since I am only taking 14 credits my gpa will be well below a 3.0. I really tried my best. I put in endless hours of studying , but I still am not getting the grades I thought I could achieve. The only problem is that I had an interview for another medical school already early this week. If I am possibly accepted , what should I say about my grades. I am currently in finals week and I am heavily considering dropping out because I am not confident that I can actually pass my finals. Help any advice please on what I should do.

Shadow a couple pods my G, Despite the sdn shade it for real is not different than any other regional specialist at the end of the day. You will probs get in with scholarship. You will have to do a surgical residency but you don't have to perform surgery in your practice if you don't want. But classes are on par with med school difficulty. Figure out why you aren't excelling and fix it if you apply or else be apart of pod attrition and drown in student debt.

 

[drcardi]

You should finish the semester OP. Don't get into hypotheticals about what would happen if you said xyz to the school you interviewed at if you get in. Just finish the semester and take it step by step.

PM me if you'd like to chat more. Good luck.

Hey i tried PM you , but the messaging wouldn't allow me too

 

[drcardi]

Shadow a couple pods my G, Despite the sdn shade it for real is not different than any other regional specialist at the end of the day. You will probs get in with scholarship. You will have to do a surgical residency but you don't have to perform surgery in your practice if you don't want. But classes are on par with med school difficulty. Figure out why you aren't excelling and fix it if you apply or else be apart of pod attrition and drown in student debt.

I have applied to all pod schools last summer and got accepted to all. But because I know myself and that I won't be happy in that career I decided to try for SMP instead.

 

[Blanky]

I have applied to all pod schools last summer and got accepted to all. But because I know myself and that I won't be happy in that career I decided to try for SMP instead.

You are burning bridges...

 

[drcardi]

You are burning bridges...

Well yes I screwed myself ... but I do not want to be a podiatrist at all what’s so ever so I do not regret that decision.

 

[Blanky]

I’m still trying to get my thoughts together on future prospects.
Have you ruled out pharm, PA and Dent? I mean through actual shadowing. I don’t know if your med career is over but you are knocking on that hard hard enough...

 

[DO2015CA]

Finish the semester and you must pass. If the school accepts you, I would then still finish the second semester SMP because you need the knowledge and it might give you enough of a head start to learn to be successful. You will never be the head of your class but you might be a barely below average student that is enough to get through. If that school rejected you then look into something else.

 

[WorldChanger36]

If you dont get in you have options as stated above. You could:
1) Quit and go a different direction (PA, Pods or other schooling) Nothing wrong with this.
2) Finish your program,get a solid MCAT and try a 2nd SMP with stronger linkage. William Carey has a masters program like this. It is common they take a large part of the masters program into the med school. However those in the masters program often struggle in Careys med program and they have a high failure rate. Keep this in mind as this is high risk, Carey does not take it easy on anyone.
3) Take a break and rethink if the direction you are going is right for you. Perhaps you need to go a completely different direction.

 

[HarmonicConvergence]

Finish the semester and you must pass. If the school accepts you, I would then still finish the second semester SMP because you need the knowledge and it might give you enough of a head start to learn to be successful. You will never be the head of your class but you might be a barely below average student that is enough to get through. If that school rejected you then look into something else.

Even if the school accepts him now, wouldn't it be a contingency acceptance on OP finishing with a certain GPA?

OP there are plenty of rewarding and lucrative careers in medicine that don't require a doctorate level degree (M.D,D.O,DDS/DMD,DPM). Maybe try doing a realistic reevaluation of your options. But don't go chasing waterfalls.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

The only problem is that I had an interview for another medical school already early this week. If I am possibly accepted , what should I say about my grades.

Then start praying you get an acceptance because that is likely your only chance at being a doctor.

Even if the school accepts him now, wouldn't it be a contingency acceptance on OP finishing with a certain GPA?

Not necessarily. He said it was at a different medical school so they might not have a requirement on it other than he passes. Because they interviewed him in his first semester of the SMP it's likely they weren't basing their interview off of potential SMP performance and more likely on the original app.

 

[Magus5454]

Hello,

So I am currently enrolled in my first semester SMP program. So I have not been doing to hot this semester and it looks like I will be receiving two C's, one of which is in a 7 credit med school anatomy course. I know I blew it. Since I am only taking 14 credits my gpa will be well below a 3.0. I really tried my best. I put in endless hours of studying , but I still am not getting the grades I thought I could achieve. The only problem is that I had an interview for another medical school already early this week. If I am possibly accepted , what should I say about my grades. I am currently in finals week and I am heavily considering dropping out because I am not confident that I can actually pass my finals. Help any advice please on what I should do.

Here's the thing OP, you say you tried your best. I don't think so. You obviously aren't doing something right if you are getting C's. Did you use every resource the school provided? Even if you had an interview, its not a guarantee.

 

[drcardi]

Here's the thing OP, you say you tried your best. I don't think so. You obviously aren't doing something right if you are getting C's. Did you use every resource the school provided? Even if you had an interview, its not a guarantee.

. I was doing well in the beginning and even successfully studied and took my mcat while studying for my classes. I am enrolled in medical gross anatomy. I did well in the written portion of MGA . I have been scoring high 80 to low 90s. However, I have no idea why but I struggle greatly with the lab portion. First two practicals I bombed. The third exam I did slightly better with a C. I have done everything from being in lab like 24/7 from studying rohens and netters going to review sessions and tutoring with lab TAs. I even got accomodations for my last exam , I haven't got my score yet but I already know I got at least 6 wrong. So lab is what is bringing my grade down. I literally need high 90s on my last written exam and cumulative to get a B and I don't think it is possible because I have been mostly focusing on the practical and have not been as dedicated as I should be. As for my second class I am getting a C in. There has been drama regarding the class and I was one of few people who were passing with a A. Majority of the class is failing that class. We just took our final exam, and honestly I was so depressed over my lab practical I did not perform the best I knew I could have and failed the exam which dropped my grade to a C.... an 80.1 to be exact because at my school that counts as a C since there is no + or - . Anyways this situation is my fault and accept the responsibilities .

 

[Blanky]

Here's the thing OP, you say you tried your best. I don't think so. You obviously aren't doing something right if you are getting C's. Did you use every resource the school provided? Even if you had an interview, its not a guarantee.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge based on someone's stated efforts. While it is very possible its more likely based on the above that OP has poor study habits which resulted in poor GPA and hence the SMP. The study habits being poor have apparently continued into the SMP and now OP is in this dire situation.

 

[Blanky]

. I was doing well in the beginning and even successfully studied and took my mcat while studying for my classes. I am enrolled in medical gross anatomy. I did well in the written portion of MGA . I have been scoring high 80 to low 90s. However, I have no idea why but I struggle greatly with the lab portion. First two practicals I bombed. The third exam I did slightly better with a C. I have done everything from being in lab like 24/7 from studying rohens and netters going to review sessions and tutoring with lab TAs. I even got accomodations for my last exam , I haven't got my score yet but I already know I got at least 6 wrong. So lab is what is bringing my grade down. I literally need high 90s on my last written exam and cumulative to get a B and I don't think it is possible because I have been mostly focusing on the practical and have not been as dedicated as I should be. As for my second class I am getting a C in. There has been drama regarding the class and I was one of few people who were passing with a A. Majority of the class is failing that class. We just took our final exam, and honestly I was so depressed over my lab practical I did not perform the best I knew I could have and failed the exam which dropped my grade to a C.... an 80.1 to be exact because at my school that counts as a C since there is no + or - . Anyways this situation is my fault and accept the responsibilities .

That sounds like test taking anxiety.

 

[GypsyHummus]

OP, if your Application was good enough to get an interview at a medical school, why did you decide to do an SMP vs retaking the MCAT?

Did you know that SMPs are high risk high reward programs? People like to show the reward part on SDN, because the risk people usually dont go around advertising their failures. SMPs are for high achieving people who otherwise wouldnt have gotten into medical school.

Like many have mentioned, shadow diff professions and see if there is something else you could see yourself doing. I know you said no to DPM, but depending on how close to a 3.0 you finish your SMP, Optometry and dentistry can both be on the table coupled with a good OAT or DAT score.

I would try my best to avoid the tempation of the caribbean. I know 2 people personally who were in your position who did not make it in the SMP, did caribbean, and are now working as teachers because they couldnt hack it.

 

[futurexray]

Why do people suggest PA school if you can not get into medical school. PA school is very competitive and most schools require a pretty high GPA. I think PCOM wants above a 3.6.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Did you shadow other professions? How do you know you wouldnt like being a podiatrist? How do you know you would be fullfilled in Family Medicine or IM? How do you know you wouldnt like Optometry?

Well yes I screwed myself ... but I do not want to be a podiatrist at all what’s so ever so I do not regret that decision.

 

[Blanky]

Why do people suggest PA school if you can not get into medical school. PA school is very competitive and most schools require a pretty high GPA. I think PCOM wants above a 3.6.

PCOM is not the top PA school, it is also not the lowest. Are you really going to come in and start the PA is as competitive as Med school debate?

 

[drcardi]

OP, if your Application was good enough to get an interview at a medical school, why did you decide to do an SMP vs retaking the MCAT?

Did you know that SMPs are high risk high reward programs? People like to show the reward part on SDN, because the risk people usually dont go around advertising their failures. SMPs are for high achieving people who otherwise wouldnt have gotten into medical school.

Like many have mentioned, shadow diff professions and see if there is something else you could see yourself doing. I know you said no to DPM, but depending on how close to a 3.0 you finish your SMP, Optometry and dentistry can both be on the table coupled with a good OAT or DAT score.

I would try my best to avoid the tempation of the caribbean. I know 2 people personally who were in your position who did not make it in the SMP, did caribbean, and are now working as teachers because they couldnt hack it.

I really didn’t think I would get an interview this early in the semester , I literally sent my secondary in October to this particular school and got an II 2 weeks later . I took an smp because my MCAT was good enough but my grades were not.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Well, Hopefully you get into this other school, then all you need to do is pass.

Otherwise, I would start considering other options.

I really didn’t think I would get an interview this early in the semester , I literally sent my secondary in October to this particular school and got an II 2 weeks later . I took an smp because my MCAT was good enough but my grades were not.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Why would they have high failure rates? Wouldnt the SMP students already have prior knowlage before going into the medical school?

Also, ive heard William Carey has a lot of attrition, is this true? What are their average GPA and MCAT scores?

William Carey has a masters program like this. It is common they take a large part of the masters program into the med school. However those in the masters program often struggle in Careys med program and they have a high failure rate. Keep this in mind as this is high risk, Carey does not take it easy on anyone.

 

[Blanky]

No need for debate. PA programs are very competitive and many have 3.6 GPA averages in addition to having a requirement of at least 500 hours of paid direct patient care experience, which many pre-meds do not have.

There are many programs some have 3.6 averages and some have much lower than that.
Can we please avoid the PA debate for the second time? PA was merely mentioned as an option. Even if OP had to take some credits plus the masters it’s an option.

 

[WorldChanger36]

Why would they have high failure rates? Wouldnt the SMP students already have prior knowlage before going into the medical school?

Also, ive heard William Carey has a lot of attrition, is this true? What are their average GPA and MCAT scores?

Why high failure rates? Often these are weak students that in all likelihood are not able to handle med school or are just not ready to and the masters program is an easier version of some of the 1st year curriculum so when 2nd year comes around they have a much harder time.

Yes Carey has an attrition of about 10% per year per class. GPA and MCAT score change from year to year but I believe they are on par with most DO schools, when I was getting in it was a bit lower than most DO schools.
The masters program is a true 2nd chance type of program that can get you in but it is nothing like actual med school.

 

[Blanky]

TUNs mean was 3.4 and At Still mean is at 3.5. I’m not going to look up every school. You know very well that PA programs are competitive and many students apply with 3.8-3.9 and so what do you think sets that mean? The 3.2-3.3s with strong ECs, upward trends and maybe masters in sciences?

Alderson University mean 3.4

 

[Blanky]

DMU..

Average cumulative GPA of 3.63, with a range from 2.86 to 3.92. The average science GPA is 3.55.

So you are correct about 3.6 for DMU but they report their range.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Why is it that a SMP performance of less than 3.5 is bad but a 3.2+ in undergrad is usually ok for DO school, when undergrad is so much easier?

I can't sugar coat this: You have shown that medical school will be more than you can handle, and now it's time for Plan B.

You're not going to get accepted. In fact, no med school is doing you any favors by admitting you when you're at such great risk for failing.

 

[Goro]

Why is it that a SMP performance of less than 3.5 is bad but a 3.2+ in undergrad is usually ok for DO school, when undergrad is so much easier?

Smp = med school classes. My program has learned the hard way that if you struggle in an SMP, you will fail med school

 

[Isoval]

I can't speak for OP's school/SMP, but at my school our SMP goes about half as fast as the medical school curriculum with content that's so similar they even use some of the same PowerPoints.

Although probably not needed, I fully back Goro's statement that doing poorly in an SMP means you're doomed for medical school.

OP, you may need to start looking for a new profession.

 

[GypsyHummus]

But DO schools accept people from undergrad with 3.2 all the time. You would think a SMP student with at 3.2 would be more ready to handle med school classes than undergrad with a 3.2, MCAT scores being equal.

Smp = med school classes. My program has learned the hard way that if you struggle in an SMP, you will fail med school

 

[drcardi]

I appreciate the straight up advice ... but no I do not think my career is over just yet. If I do make it to med school, yes I’ll definitley struggle but I don’t think I’ll fail out. I believe that I have what it takes to at least pass and pass boards. I have always been average student not really expecting to be a super star med student. it is unfortunate that I let my anxiousness get the best of me but it is what it is . Like I said before I was doing well it was only lab holding me back most of the semester but of course my anxiety or whatever else got the best of me. If I ultimately don’t make it as a doctor that’s life I’ll figure something else but I am not gunna give up just yet ........

 

[Goro]

But DO schools accept people from undergrad with 3.2 all the time. You would think a SMP student with at 3.2 would be more ready to handle med school classes than undergrad with a 3.2, MCAT scores being equal.

You're correct and it doesn't matter.

 

[Isoval]

But DO schools accept people from undergrad with 3.2 all the time. You would think a SMP student with at 3.2 would be more ready to handle med school classes than undergrad with a 3.2, MCAT scores being equal.

In undergrad, there are a million and one excuses you could use as for why your GPA is lacking. Chief among these are differences in grading from school to school or even from major to major. For example, engineering is notorious for grade deflation and the humanities are notoriously subjective. This isn't the case with SMPs - the programs are more-or-less standardized because they're based on the associated medical school curriculum. There is no "margin of error" for grade deflation or subjective grading in SMPs.

Additionally, SMP students are likely not going to be the people trying to work a 40-hour-week job during their program or overextending to seventeen shadowing positions while working in research. In my (limited) experience, SMP students have minimal additional ECs while they're in the SMP program, which is in stark contrast to most premeds during undergraduate studies.

 

[GypsyHummus]

I don’t think it’s ever truly over, there are so many SMPs out there that you could get into one, boss it, and get accepted to Med school. The likelihood of this happening is low.

Since you did ok in undergrad, why not just take more post bacc classes? You said ur mcat was fine. Then apply in two years and see what happens.

I still think it’s silly to completely throw out other doctor careers like podiatry, dentistry, or optometry. Who knows, you might actually be happier going that route and less stressed. The opposite could happen too, but I think the best thing to do is to take a break, work for a while, shadow other professions regroup, and form a plan of attack.

I hope you don’t think I’m stomping all over your dreams.

I appreciate the straight up advice ... but no I do not think my career is over just yet. If I do make it to med school, yes I’ll definitley struggle but I don’t think I’ll fail out. I believe that I have what it takes to at least pass and pass boards. I have always been average student not really expecting to be a super star med student. it is unfortunate that I let my anxiousness get the best of me but it is what it is . Like I said before I was doing well it was only lab holding me back most of the semester but of course my anxiety or whatever else got the best of me. If I ultimately don’t make it as a doctor that’s life I’ll figure something else but I am not gunna give up just yet ........

 

[Goro]

I appreciate the straight up advice ... but no I do not think my career is over just yet. If I do make it to med school, yes I’ll definitley struggle but I don’t think I’ll fail out. I believe that I have what it takes to at least pass and pass boards. I have always been average student not really expecting to be a super star med student. it is unfortunate that I let my anxiousness get the best of me but it is what it is . Like I said before I was doing well it was only lab holding me back most of the semester but of course my anxiety or whatever else got the best of me. If I ultimately don’t make it as a doctor that’s life I’ll figure something else but I am not gunna give up just yet ........

Take a LOA and what's broken.

 

[GypsyHummus]

But someone could major in a degree like english, take the minium pre recs, get As, and apply. Vs a SMP where it is all science all the time, high stress, etc, but if you get less than a 3.4 you are toast.

Although it is intersting for people not to have a plan B, like doing an alternative career. I wonder if this is just because of the nature of medicine, if people put so much of their identity into it that they sometimes miss the forrest for the trees. Ive met 30+ year old with multiple degrees still trying to get into medical school and failing.

In undergrad, there are a million and one excuses you could use as for why your GPA is lacking. Chief among these are differences in grading from school to school or even from major to major. For example, engineering is notorious for grade deflation and the humanities are notoriously subjective. This isn't the case with SMPs - the programs are more-or-less standardized because they're based on the associated medical school curriculum. There is no "margin of error" for grade deflation or subjective grading in SMPs.

Additionally, SMP students are likely not going to be the people trying to work a 40-hour-week job during their program or overextending to seventeen shadowing positions while working in research. In my (limited) experience, SMP students have minimal additional ECs while they're in the SMP program, which is in stark contrast to most premeds during undergraduate studies.

 

[Isoval]

But someone could major in a degree like english, take the minium pre recs, get As, and apply. Vs a SMP where it is all science all the time, high stress, etc, but if you get less than a 3.4 you are toast.

Although it is intersting for people not to have a plan B, like doing an alternative career. I wonder if this is just because of the nature of medicine, if people put so much of their identity into it that they sometimes miss the forrest for the trees. Ive met 30+ year old with multiple degrees still trying to get into medical school and failing.

The point wasn't so much that people can blow through undergrad with an easy degree so much as it was that there is massive variability between degrees and schools. When you're sifting through seven thousand applications, looking into the rigor of a specific degree at a specific college becomes ridiculous.

 

[WorldChanger36]

I appreciate the straight up advice ... but no I do not think my career is over just yet. If I do make it to med school, yes I’ll definitley struggle but I don’t think I’ll fail out. I believe that I have what it takes to at least pass and pass boards. I have always been average student not really expecting to be a super star med student. it is unfortunate that I let my anxiousness get the best of me but it is what it is . Like I said before I was doing well it was only lab holding me back most of the semester but of course my anxiety or whatever else got the best of me. If I ultimately don’t make it as a doctor that’s life I’ll figure something else but I am not gunna give up just yet ........

This is why I think the William Carey option is great for you. If you are willing to do anything to be a doc they will get you there but it is 100% a final chance. Look into it they would love to have you.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Does it have a guarantee linkage?

I would think it wouldnt be a good idea to jump right into another SMP after essentially failing the first one.

This is why I think the William Carey option is great for you. If you are willing to do anything to be a doc they will get you there but it is 100% a final chance. Look into it they would love to have you.

 

[Prehealth1011]

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[drcardi]

So , I just took my last anatomy exam and scored a 98 . All I have is my cumulative and if I score well I can still get an B. If this happens I will at least be above a 3.0 and by the time spring semester ends I can hopefully bring up my gpa. Fingers crossed

 

[WorldChanger36]

I did a DO SMP. The things you should be looking for:
1) Does it offer guaranteed acceptance?
2) Does it offer at least an interview?
3) Are you graded on a curve where a 93+ in an exam could still end up being a "B"?

Without a guaranteed interview/acceptance, it's just a poor investment of money. There are many programs that offer #2 and some offer #1.

1) No
2) no
3) No
They don’t guarantee any thing. They do accept a huge part of the masters class every year and all most all of them get an interview. Some years they have taken the entire class into the med school. It is not hard to get in this way

 

[Confuzzledmed]

OP, If you can bring your gpa up to a 3.5 , I don't see why you wouldn't have a shot a med school

 

[sportsdoc3]

So I just found this thread randomly and thought I would comment. I hope you see this OP. I am a first year med student. In Undergrad I finished with a 3.3, my science GPA was a 3.0. I failed O chem the first time, C the next time, and B in O chem 2. I even got a C in biostats. I went to a well known SMP, and it was chance to shine and even then I only got out with a 3.17. I know you might not be at the range, but basically I got all Bs, and 1 C. I felt horrible. I applied, I put my heart into my applications to show that this was for me. I did not give up. 1 got 2 interviews and 1 acceptance. And now, after my first semester I made all Bs and 1 A in med school. Basically I was honest with myself. I didn't work hard enough in my undergrad or SMP. I always knew I could be better. And I didn't give up and did better when I got into med school. I still have many ways that I can improve, but trust me. Don't give up. Too much negativity on this damn forum. Find your weaknesses, and fix them. If you want it, it will show in your application and in your effort. And you will get in. But be honest with yourself. Can you do better? And I mean significantly better. Do you have it in you? And then you will know which steps to take. Good luck. Everyone on this forum told me I wasn't going to make it. Everyone I reached out to privately as well. But life is funny sometimes.

 

[drcardi]

So I just found this thread randomly and thought I would comment. I hope you see this OP. I am a first year med student. In Undergrad I finished with a 3.3, my science GPA was a 3.0. I failed O chem the first time, C the next time, and B in O chem 2. I even got a C in biostats. I went to a well known SMP, and it was chance to shine and even then I only got out with a 3.17. I know you might not be at the range, but basically I got all Bs, and 1 C. I felt horrible. I applied, I put my heart into my applications to show that this was for me. I did not give up. 1 got 2 interviews and 1 acceptance. And now, after my first semester I made all Bs and 1 A in med school. Basically I was honest with myself. I didn't work hard enough in my undergrad or SMP. I always knew I could be better. And I didn't give up and did better when I got into med school. I still have many ways that I can improve, but trust me. Don't give up. Too much negativity on this damn forum. Find your weaknesses, and fix them. If you want it, it will show in your application and in your effort. And you will get in. But be honest with yourself. Can you do better? And I mean significantly better. Do you have it in you? And then you will know which steps to take. Good luck. Everyone on this forum told me I wasn't going to make it. Everyone I reached out to privately as well. But life is funny sometimes.

Thank you . I needed this .

 

[almanack22]

Thank you . I needed this .

Any updates on how things turned out for you?