Originally posted by mandownunder
To be credentialled for angiography, the physician must demonstrate knowledge of physics, must have performed hundreds of procedures under supervision, understand the physiology (contrast, flow), anatomy etc. Be able to handle the not infrequent complications.
You misunderstand my point. I am not saying that newly trained neurologists should simply start practicing IN. Everything that we do in medicine requires training, whether that means looking at a patient and diagnosing
cerebral autosomal dominant arteriopathy with subcortical infarcts and leukoencephalopathy or looking at an x ray and diagnosing a toe fracture. I am not denying that one should be superbly trained to practice in the various fields of medicine.
However, there are many areas of medicine where the specialties overlap. It is at these borders that silly turf wars ensue. What I feel is that one specialty should not have a monopoly over
the educational process that leads to good practice.
Yes, you need to know the physiology of cerebral blood flow to do IN.
Yes, you need to do hundreds of procedures.
Yes, you need to understand how to treat IN complications.
AND THAT IS WHAT A FELLOWSHIP SHOULD BE FOR.
I don't think that a neurologist is incapable, with good training, to do IN. Cardiologists have been doing IC for decades. The problem is that because of the politics of turf wars, he can't even get fellowship training. An IN fellowship for a neurologist may have to be longer, perhaps three years, to ensure sufficient technical education and procedural experience, but it should at least be available to those who want to do it.
Currently, however that is out of the question, except for the ridiculous suggestion that a neurologist start a residency in radiology first. This is silly because you DON'T need to know GI radiology to practice IN, you DON't need to know pregnancy ultrasounds to do IN, etc.
The hypocrisy of the current situation is seen with respect to neurosurgeons who want to do an IN fellowship. I have a friend who trained as a NS, and then did an IN fellowship at a neuroradiology department in VA. The fellowship lasted one year.
In spite of the fact that neurosurgeons don't do any more radiology than neurologists while in residency, this is possible. And I think that's sensible, because you don't need to know the whole of general radiology to do IN. Of course, a neurologist will probably need more training time because IN is a procedural thing. so be it. two years, or three years. It should definitely be possible to teach the physics, skills, different imaging modalities (relevant to the NS!) etc.etc. that is required of an IN in that timeframe to someone who has already spent 4 years, after medical school, studying the brain and its diseases more thoroughly than anyone else.
What should NOT be happening is for one specialty to monopolize fellowship training in a "borderline" subspecialty and keep it only open to graduates of that specialty.