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New policy from US Med Schools?

Discussion in 'General International Discussion' started by Hirurg, Feb 22, 2002.

  1. Hirurg

    Hirurg Member 10+ Year Member

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    What do think about the following?

    US med schools are now realizing that they are in a tough place since the admission numbers have been going down steadily for the past 6 years.
    The will accept much more trasfers from CARIB.
    Mount Sinai is the first to offer 16 transf. spots next year.

    Do you know anything about it?
     
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  3. Winged Scapula

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    Can't say I've heard anything definitive but why would declining application numbers mean more room for transfers? Schools are still filling to capacity - there are still more than enough applicants to fill the seats in most cases.

    Even if more room for transfers was made, IMHO those spaces will almost always be offered first to a LCME student wishing to transfer. But doom and gloom aside if more schools are offering more transfer spots, that would seem to benefit IMGs wishing to transfer into a US school.
     
  4. PuppyLuv

    PuppyLuv Member 10+ Year Member

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    30000+ people applying for about 16000 spots......... they're not gonna start transffering people in.
     
  5. Hirurg

    Hirurg Member 10+ Year Member

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    What do you think about this?

    There was a meeting of the Association of American Medical Colleges
    in November during which the AAMC seemed to change their position on the
    number of physicians needed in the US. Applications to US med schools
    for the 2001-2002 school year were down 6% from 2000-2001. This may have
    contributed to the change in their position that there are too many
    physicians in the US and that med school class sizes should be limited.
    You may be asking, how will this affect me? The easiest and quickest way
    to increase class sizes and place more students in the pipeline is to
    accept more transfer students from international medical schools. Since
    there is no real competition to SGU in terms of quality of students, this
    should mean more transfer opportunities for us. Mount Sinai School of
    Medicine is the first school to act on this news and has announced that
    they will have 15 transfer spots available. Other schools will
    undoubtedly follow their lead. Chancellor Modica is even looking into
    possibly having people from Mount Sinai visit the campus to conduct
    interviews so that we will have first shot at the positions available.
     
  6. IWSMD

    IWSMD Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Hello,

    I am MS1 at SGU. Are school in fact has told us that Mt. Sinai is coming to visit the university and interview students for fifteen spots at their school. This is exciting and welcome news. It just goes to show people the caliber of student SGU puts out there.
     
  7. PuppyLuv

    PuppyLuv Member 10+ Year Member

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    just check mt.sinai's website, it says mt. sinai does not accept transfer from other medical school. If they do indeed start a new transfer program for 15 SGU students then go for it.

    By the way if Adric Hyunh (MS1) reads this post,
    wassup playa!!!! should've gone to cali D.O. school with me man, hot cali chics!!!! and have you find the sternotesticular ligament in your cadaver yet????

    peace - don't party too hard down there!!!
     
  8. nyskindr

    nyskindr Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    It is my understanding from reading these boards that Mt Sinai is having severe financial problems which is leading it to significantly increase its class size and raise tuition by 7K over the next two years.This transfer opportunity is likely related to this one time change.
     
  9. none

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    Yes, if true, this would be due entirely to Mt. Sinai's own unique problems with finances. It would have absolutely nothing to do with a drop in applications. 56% of U.S. applicants are still completely rejected each year!
     
  10. COMP Bound

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    Why would one medical school (international or not)allow another medical school to steal it's students? :confused: Seems like a conflict of interest. They are in competition with one another aren't they? :confused:
     
  11. Hirurg

    Hirurg Member 10+ Year Member

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    No! SGU would not compete with any of the US schools. Simply because it is not a US school. So the competition is between carib schools if any! But SGU does not care much. It produces fine dictors, and the more students transfer to US schools, the better and wider the reputation of the school will spread, which may in turn lead to the change of of LCME policies towards SGU. However, there is still enough US med applic/students rejected each year to not worry about reduction of student flow.
     
  12. Stephen Ewen

    Stephen Ewen 10+ Year Member

    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Hirurg:
    <strong>and the more students transfer to US schools, the better and wider the reputation of the school will spread. [...] There is still enough US med applic/students rejected each year to not worry about reduction of student flow.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As applied to any carribean school, this is exactly the case. It is GOOD for them to allow transfers to US schools--REAL good.
     
  13. Doctora Foxy

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Hirurg:
    <strong>What do think about the following?

    US med schools are now realizing that they are in a tough place since the admission numbers have been going down steadily for the past 6 years.
    The will accept much more trasfers from CARIB.
    Mount Sinai is the first to offer 16 transf. spots next year.

    Do you know anything about it?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you mean that students at SGU NOW can transfer, or does that include the class of 2006?
     
  14. Hirurg

    Hirurg Member 10+ Year Member

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    They always could and did transfer. So as some other Carib schools. This "above" means that there will be more space for people like us. Not just 10 stud. out of 270. Which is the average for the past 7 years.
     
  15. Doctora Foxy

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    oops sorry--I meant the 15 spots to Mt Sinai---is that for students in class of 2006, or is it happening immediately?

    Basically, if I had a good chance of transferring to Sinai from SGU next school year (2002-2003), I would apply to SGU right now.
     
  16. dknykid1980

    dknykid1980 Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    outta curiosity....

    This whole transfering ordeal after the first semester at SGU or wherever in the carib....would this entail the medical school only looking at your performance at SGU or would they look back at ur mcat scores and gpa? also if u were to wait until after ur 2nd year (in which case u would have taken ur USMLE step1) would they only look at ur board scores and sorta forget ur mcat scores and ur undergrad stuff?

    thnks
     
  17. Hirurg

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    To Foxy Doc: This, if true would apply to student that by 2002 has taken SUMLE step 1. So if enter next year you will take your exam by mid 2006. If this policy is still valid you would have a chance. But can try to transfer, or as 99% of transferers do, after USMLE step1, that is after 2.5 years at SGU.

    To dknykid: No, med schools will only look at your record in med school from which yuo are transferring and most importantly your USMLE scores.
     
  18. Doctora Foxy

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    Thanks for the info--so I guess a lot of students transfer to UMiami, from your post on another thread. That's good news for me, since I'm from there :)

    and p.s., please don't refer to me as Foxy Doc because that's another SDN member's name and she will get upset, since she was here first. I'm Dr. Foxy <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
     
  19. roadie

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Hirurg:
    <strong> No, med schools will only look at your record in med school from which yuo are transferring and most importantly your USMLE scores.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is not entirely correct. I just looked at an application for transfer with advance standing at a U.S. school, and it definately had a section on undergraduate GPA and MCAT scores. While I also agree that the biggest factor is your step I score, I am pretty sure that most med schools will at least look at your Undergraduate GPA and MCAT scores, maybe only in passing.
     
  20. roadie

    roadie Member 7+ Year Member

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    Also,

    I heard, and I do not know this for sure, that a month or so ago, U of Miami changed its policy, and no longer accepts transfers. While that sucks for those trying to transfer to florida, there are still many schools who allow transfers, and actually most students who transfer from SGU, transfer to New York schools
     
  21. nyskindr

    nyskindr Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    I would strongly advise that anyone going to SGU should plan on graduating from that school and not assume transfer to a US program.Yes it is possible but few actually do it,and "a lot" of
    students dont transfer to the Univ of Miami.The Mt Sinai situation is very likely a one time thing.SGU is a good option and many of its graduates do well with fine residencies,but one should know what they are likely to encounter before they go.You might get some usefull info on the SGU unofficial website <a href="http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/10067" target="_blank">http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/10067</a>
     
  22. dbiddy

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    I second that. I went to Saba and many students start out thinking that they'll be able to transfer and end up disappointed. Only one student in my class transfered, and another couple got into US schools and had to start all over again.
     

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