How have the rankings not already been leaked?
why would you want to bother speculating. Waste of time.
i predict it will be 99.1202% as useless as the current one.
How have the rankings not already been leaked?
i predict it will be 99.1202% as useless as the current one.
i predict it will be 99.1202% as useless as the current one.
How have the rankings not already been leaked?
Hollywood Upstairs will take a stranglehold on the #9 spot, moving back into the Top 10 for the first time in a couple years.
If the school I go to gets a higher rank, it's useful. Otherwise, it's useless.
so you think it'll be a step up?
i haven't done error calculations yetSo you think it'll be a step up?
Just wondering who of you out there that's saying how unimportant the rankings are are NOT gonna check the website tomorrow?
Just wondering who of you out there that's saying how unimportant the rankings are are NOT gonna check the website tomorrow?
honestly, i wouldn't have had any idea that they were coming out if i hadn't seen this thread. i DEFINITELY will not be running to that website tomorrow like some eager 12th grader runs to the mailbox on april 1st.
Lol, no one runs to the mailbox on April 1st anymore. It's refreshing like crazy on the school website or your email inbox at 5:00pm EST.
Lol, no one runs to the mailbox on April 1st anymore. It's refreshing like crazy on the school website or your email inbox at 5:00pm EST.
wow. a lot has changed in the 7 years since i applied to college. i got all my stuff via snail mail. it was fun-- lots of "big envelope" excitement.
seriously. get with the times dw! you're so old i bet they thought pluto was a planet when you were a kid. yeesh!
i'll be the first to give the rankings some validation...
I know for a fact Vandy, Pritzker, an Dartmouth take the ranking pretty seriously.
Vandy - they brought it up during second look here and there. They know they didn't accomplish this task: http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/reporter/index.html?ID=2041 , but they are still looking to move up
UChicago doesn't like the fact that their medical school is the lowest ranked out of all its grad schools, so the administration is working on moving up the list. Heard this from multiple students during my interview.
Dartmouth - Our new President of the College (Dr. Jim Kim) came in with the mindset that DMS could be a top 15 medical school on USNews...this was a breath of fresh air because the students of the undergrad and med school felt that while the rest of Dartmouth was doing great, the former president didn't really care about the med school.
The rankings, if anything, show trends. A school constantly moving up in the #'s is obviously doing something right. I'm not talking about a measly 1/2 spots, but those that have been making significant improvement over the past few years. Same goes with those on the decline.
now choosing #22 over #30 just cause of the ranking...yea, that's dumb.
How does this validate the rankings? The fact that schools try to game the system?
The only use of the rankings is as a guide to the competitiveness of admissions when coming up with a list of schools to apply to. Applying to schools only the Top 15 to 20, for instance, is ill advised for anybody but the superstar applicants.
you can't really "game the system". there is some validation in their rankings any way you look at it. the fact that 70% is Quality Assessment and Research (40% composed of Peer Assessment Score & Assessment Score by Residency Directors, and 30% composed of various Research #'s) can tell you a positive if the school keeps moving up the rankings. If outside peers are viewing the medical school more favorably year after year, would you not consider that a positive?
peer evaluations can be pretty subjective, though.
peer evaluations can be pretty subjective, though.
i'll be the first to give the rankings some validation...
I know for a fact Vandy, Pritzker, an Dartmouth take the ranking pretty seriously.
Vandy - they brought it up during second look here and there. They know they didn't accomplish this task: http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/reporter/index.html?ID=2041 , but they are still looking to move up
UChicago doesn't like the fact that their medical school is the lowest ranked out of all its grad schools, so the administration is working on moving up the list. Heard this from multiple students during my interview.
Dartmouth - Our new President of the College (Dr. Jim Kim) came in with the mindset that DMS could be a top 15 medical school on USNews...this was a breath of fresh air because the students of the undergrad and med school felt that while the rest of Dartmouth was doing great, the former president didn't really care about the med school.
The rankings, if anything, show trends. A school constantly moving up in the #'s is obviously doing something right. I'm not talking about a measly 1/2 spots, but those that have been making significant improvement over the past few years. Same goes with those on the decline.
now choosing #22 over #30 just cause of the ranking...yea, that's dumb.
Add Pitt to this. A student told me how they're emphasizing certain things more in admissions to make a push for the top 10.i'll be the first to give the rankings some validation...
I know for a fact Vandy, Pritzker, an Dartmouth take the ranking pretty seriously.
Add Pitt to this. A student told me how they're emphasizing certain things more in admissions to make a push for the top 10.
I would personally be worried as a student about going to a place that goes out of its way to protect its image with rankings.
Makes me wonder what they have to hide.
If a place happens to get ranked highly, GREAT, but to emphasize getting number 9 over number 11 seems a scary mentality in approaching the process of attracting candidates and producing physicians.
I don't know if this applys to med schools, but the year after UChicago broke into the top 10 in undergrad rankings, the number of apps to the school went up 45%
i doubt 45% increases can be attributed to essay promptsCould be, but UChicago also happens to be a school that is known for creative essay prompts on their supplement. I know many people who seriously considered applying there but were turned off by the essays because they're ones you'd have to write specifically for Chicago and can't really reuse. They use a different set of essays each year, and it's possible that this year their essays just happened to appear more manageable.