Non-Traditional Success Story (Even with a not so strong MCAT)

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Fellow Non-Traditional Future Physicians,

I just got accepted to Michigan State University (even with a sub-30 mcat score!) and wanted to share with you guys my story for some that maybe having doubts. (In no way am I trying to gloat and sorry for the long story!)

Like many non-traditional applicants, I didn't grow up thinking I would be a physician. I thought the word physician meant "someone who specialized in physics," until about two years ago.

I went to a high school in a pretty underserved area. About 40% of students were graduating during my year in ‘04. Some of my friends were teenage parents, dropouts, or graduated but worked dead end jobs. Although all of this was a norm in my community, for some reason, I knew that there was more.

Went to college at UCI, had no idea what I wanted to do. Took classes from several discipline and found a love in Asian American Studies. (Btw, super unprepared for college. Performed poorly on all of my placement exams and placed into remedial math and English at UCI). Still had no idea what I wanted to do but continued taking classes. Realized that education was elixir to mobility so I pursued education as a high school teacher to return back and serve within my community.

Got into a graduate education program at UCLA and began teaching in South Central Los Angeles. I felt like I was an athlete, getting paid to do what I love, which was helping and serving my community. As I taught algebra, I couldn't help my students in Bio or Chem. While it troubled me, it sparked an interest in the sciences. Considered taking some sciences classes. My entire family didn't support me. With my parents make minimum wage, I was helping them out financially on my teacher salary, so I understood their perspective but hated the fact that I didn't have their support. I encountered a lot of people that said that because I'm Asian, odds are against me. Though it may have been true, coming from an uneducated family with a household income that flirted with the poverty level motivated me even more.

After a pre-Chem course in the summer, I decided to put teaching on hold for a bit and wanted to take more science classes. Enrolled in a Bio and Chem course. That Fall semester, I had a really bad allergic reaction to Bactrim. My reaction was called Erythema Multiforme, a minor case of Steven Johnson. Worst part was not having health insurance, which supported my family's argument of not going back to school. Told my attending doctor to discharge me cause I couldn't afford it. He said he couldn't help me with my hospital bill but wouldn't charge me for his services. That moment was my wake up call to pursue a profession as a healthcare provider (despite a $10,000 hospital bill).

So I explored several professions. Realized that Pharmacy was like teaching, with communication as key. I pursued it. Applied to some pharmacy schools and got into UCSF. Despite this, I felt that my community needed a physician more. Withdrew my admissions from SF (hardest decision in my life) and decided to pursue med. Continued taking more classes. My first MCAT score was a 22Q. Decided to retake it after finishing Ochem and tutoring Chemistry and my second was a 27R (9 on each section). Applied to roughly 40 schools. So far got rejected to 4. Waitlisted on two (preinterview). Got an interview at LECOM in January and an acceptance at Michigan State University!!!!! I just wanted to say that I took all my prereqs at a community college, which included Bio, Chem, Ochem, Physics, Micro, Anatomy, Physio. I know that there are many applicants out there that encounter way much more adversity but I just wanted to say that if I can do it, I know that everyone can. I was never the best student. My SAT's, I got 910 out of 1600, below average and for GRE's I got 870 out of 1600!!

Last year I went to a pre-Med conference at UC Davis, while I didn't get too much out of it, the guest speaker, Dr. Richard Carmona, US General Surgeon, made my trip worth it. His speech was sooo motivational that I've probably watched it 10+ times. If you guys haven't seen it yet:

http://www.amsaarcucd.org/videos/#Con2011

First video on top left. Again sorry for the long story but I just wanted to say Good Luck to everyone!!

Calvin
 
Good for you. You must have been very interesting to interview. Thanks for sharing.

PS Of course you'll be a doctor either way, but did you get accepted by MSU-CHM or MSU-COM? Just curious.
 
Michigan State University - College of Human Medicine
 
Congratulations! It sounds like your community will have a great physician in a few years. I haven't even started my science pre-reqs yet, so it seems like a long road, but this is encouraging thinking about the day in two or three years when I finally get an acceptance letter!
 
what an awesome success story, congrats!
 
Love your story. Great extra motivation to get me going.
 
who else calls this thread out as fake?
 
Would you mind sharing your GPA when applying? Congrats on the DO acceptance! Work hard and good luck in medical school.
 
Would you mind sharing your GPA when applying? Congrats on the DO acceptance! Work hard and good luck in medical school.

Thanks ClemsonFirst! When I applied, my overall GPA was 3.6 and my science GPA was 3.85 (all of which was from community colleges). The science classes boosted my overall GPA as my undergraduate GPA from UCI was 3.49.
 
Awesome!! Congrats and thanks for the uplifting story 🙂
 
Wow. This gives me some hope. After many "breaks" from school due to an inability to pay for tuition, I'm finally on track to finish my BS next year. While I'm not worried about GPA I have zero confidence in my ability to successfully take the MCAT. I'm a pretty poor test taker in general and with something so important I'm not expecting to do well. Everyone is telling me that I can do it but this is where my main anxiety is coming from. So, your story gives me hope that even with a score below 30 I still have a shot.
 
Hey everyone!!

I just wanted to send an update! I got accepted in Howard University!! It's my first choice!! I just also withdrew from Michigan State. Good luck everyone!!
 
who else calls this thread out as fake?

What a strong statement for your second post.

To OP, congrats on both exceptances, especially your top choice. It is good to see someone so motivated to help others. Good luck!
 
wow, thats awesome man. I really hope everything works out for u. Thanks a lot for sharing =)
 
Fellow Non-Traditional Future Physicians,

I just got accepted to Michigan State University (even with a sub-30 mcat score!) and wanted to share with you guys my story for some that maybe having doubts. (In no way am I trying to gloat and sorry for the long story!)

Like many non-traditional applicants, I didn’t grow up thinking I would be a physician. I thought the word physician meant “someone who specialized in physics,” until about two years ago.

I went to a high school in a pretty underserved area. About 40% of students were graduating during my year in ‘04. Some of my friends were teenage parents, dropouts, or graduated but worked dead end jobs. Although all of this was a norm in my community, for some reason, I knew that there was more.

Went to college at UCI, had no idea what I wanted to do. Took classes from several discipline and found a love in Asian American Studies. (Btw, super unprepared for college. Performed poorly on all of my placement exams and placed into remedial math and English at UCI). Still had no idea what I wanted to do but continued taking classes. Realized that education was elixir to mobility so I pursued education as a high school teacher to return back and serve within my community.

Got into a graduate education program at UCLA and began teaching in South Central Los Angeles. I felt like I was an athlete, getting paid to do what I love, which was helping and serving my community. As I taught algebra, I couldn’t help my students in Bio or Chem. While it troubled me, it sparked an interest in the sciences. Considered taking some sciences classes. My entire family didn’t support me. With my parents make minimum wage, I was helping them out financially on my teacher salary, so I understood their perspective but hated the fact that I didn’t have their support. I encountered a lot of people that said that because I’m Asian, odds are against me. Though it may have been true, coming from an uneducated family with a household income that flirted with the poverty level motivated me even more.

After a pre-Chem course in the summer, I decided to put teaching on hold for a bit and wanted to take more science classes. Enrolled in a Bio and Chem course. That Fall semester, I had a really bad allergic reaction to Bactrim. My reaction was called Erythema Multiforme, a minor case of Steven Johnson. Worst part was not having health insurance, which supported my family’s argument of not going back to school. Told my attending doctor to discharge me cause I couldn’t afford it. He said he couldn’t help me with my hospital bill but wouldn’t charge me for his services. That moment was my wake up call to pursue a profession as a healthcare provider (despite a $10,000 hospital bill).

So I explored several professions. Realized that Pharmacy was like teaching, with communication as key. I pursued it. Applied to some pharmacy schools and got into UCSF. Despite this, I felt that my community needed a physician more. Withdrew my admissions from SF (hardest decision in my life) and decided to pursue med. Continued taking more classes. My first MCAT score was a 22Q. Decided to retake it after finishing Ochem and tutoring Chemistry and my second was a 27R (9 on each section). Applied to roughly 40 schools. So far got rejected to 4. Waitlisted on two (preinterview). Got an interview at LECOM in January and an acceptance at Michigan State University!!!!! I just wanted to say that I took all my prereqs at a community college, which included Bio, Chem, Ochem, Physics, Micro, Anatomy, Physio. I know that there are many applicants out there that encounter way much more adversity but I just wanted to say that if I can do it, I know that everyone can. I was never the best student. My SAT’s, I got 910 out of 1600, below average and for GRE’s I got 870 out of 1600!!

Last year I went to a pre-Med conference at UC Davis, while I didn’t get too much out of it, the guest speaker, Dr. Richard Carmona, US General Surgeon, made my trip worth it. His speech was sooo motivational that I’ve probably watched it 10+ times. If you guys haven’t seen it yet:

http://www.amsaarcucd.org/videos/#Con2011

First video on top left. Again sorry for the long story but I just wanted to say Good Luck to everyone!!

Calvin

Awesome! Congratulations!
 
Congrats!! Very inspiring. I am happy for you.
 
not me, a buddy of mine ... this stuff is bananas! throwing it out there, people should know ...
 
What a great story. Congrats! Hopefully some others will find some hope in my story as well. Here it goes...

I always wanted to enter medicine. I switched on and off between being a firefighter, like my dad, or doing medicine. I got a football scholarship in college, and talked my self out of the "work" that pre-meds have to do. How young and stupid I was!

Anyway, I majored in mass communications. I loved it, but I still felt the calling toward medicine. So my right after graduation I enrolled at my community college to take all of my science prereqs. I do mean all of them... So I went through my prereqs, got all A's, and then cam the MCAT. Well I ended up not doing so well, and I took it again. The second time was not much better! I admit I was a little disheartened. Sometimes SDN can make you wonder if you have the stuff. You all know what I mean!

I applied anyway to Kansas School of Medicine. I finally got an email to interview this February. Subsequently I was rejected, but invited to apply for a Post-Bacc program the med school sponsors for underrepresented students. I was so glad when I was accepted into that program! With this program I will be taking some more upper level sciences, and be doing more clinical work. The program lasts a year, and when I complete it, I will matriculate to the med school. I start in 2014. I'm so excited to start this program and take that first step. I'm 25 years old now, and so happy I made the decisions I made leading up to this point. Anything I have done, led me here. If I would have done pre-med during my undergrad, maybe something would have made me lose interest, or who knows what. All I know is that right now I am where I need to be.

Sorry for the length. I just want anyone, especially non-trads, to know that medical school isn't the easiest place to get into. HOWEVER, it CAN be done. Keep shaking hands, and working to make yourself better! You never know who has an inside scoop, or can help you with the process. I'm where I'm at because of the three D's: Discipline, Determination, and Desire, plus a little luck and good networking! You can do it! TRUST ME when I say, if I could do it, then you can to. You hear it all the time, but it is so true. If you truly want it, then you will make it happen.

Any questions, or if you need words of encouragement, I'm glad to be of service! Good luck!

Also, I wrote this pretty quick, so I apologize for the great possibility that there are grammatical and spelling errors in this post. Sorry!
 
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