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[Doctor-S]

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Stagg. Providing info about game mechanics … he or she seems neutral.

Dandelion. Feels neutral to village right now but just my feeling, that's all.

Shelter. Still contributing posts on this thread and analyzing interactions. Changed vote to lynch M935 (from earlier vote to lynch Coffee).

unlynch Coffee?

lynch M935

I would recommend placing your lynch vote here if you're interested in hearing why M935 is suggesting that we trust Pickles' lynch.

Gotta give her credit for being gutsy. If M935 is wrong about Beagle (and Beagle is a villager), we will have lost a villager (i.e., Beagle), and I’ll be inclined to lean neutral to villager for shelter, at this early stage of the game. On the other hand, if M935 is correct about Beagle (and Beagle is a wolf), I’ll be inclined to lean neutral to villager on M935 right now. If pickles (who is currently speaking in riddles) is providing misleading/wrong information, I won't be leaning one way or the other; and I'll still be feeling confused by pickles riddle-posts. This is another reason why I don't want to jump on any bandwagons so early in this game. Just don't have enough info right now.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Why?

She listed my name twice

 

[Dandelion18]

Stagg. Providing info about game mechanics … he or she seems neutral.

Dandelion. Feels neutral to village right now but just my feeling, that's all.

Shelter. Still contributing posts on this thread and analyzing interactions. Changed vote to lynch M935 (from earlier vote to lynch Coffee).



Gotta give her credit for being gutsy. If M935 is wrong about Beagle (and Beagle is a villager), we will have lost a villager (i.e., Beagle), and I’ll be inclined to lean neutral to villager for shelter, at this early stage of the game. On the other hand, if M935 is correct about Beagle (and Beagle is a wolf), I’ll be inclined to lean neutral to villager on M935 right now. If pickles (who is currently speaking in riddles) is providing misleading/wrong information, I won't be leaning one way or the other; and I'll still be feeling confused by pickles riddle-posts. This is another reason why I don't want to jump on any bandwagons so early in this game. Just don't have enough info right now.

What is your read on grebes?

 

[Barkley13]

She listed my name twice

Oh I didn't notice that

 

[MSUcvmHOPE]

What I find weird is that the majority of what pickles has posted both days has been in references to tv shows/pop culture etc. So I don't know if this is their style, or if they have had a restriction that's causing them to more and more only speak in references, or if there was a night action...

 

[Dinashadow]

M935 said he wasnt even sure if he could trust pickles and that he kind of took a leap of faith. She could still be wolfy and leading us to lynch Beagle, so I'm not fully convinced

 

[Barkley13]

Unlynch beagle

 

[Doctor-S]

What is your read on grebes?

Right now, I don't have any read on grebes because she has not contributed many posts on D2. Today, grebes has been quiet, or busy, or maybe staying under the radar.

However, on D1 ... grebes ultimately changed her vote to lynch killerleaf (and not shelter). In so doing, grebes avoided being at the top of the lynch tally on D1. Grebes ended D1 with 5 votes, and killerleaf ended D1 with 6 votes. Does this mean grebes is a wolf, or a villager who is desperately trying to save herself from a D1 lynch? I don't know - and the mods made a decision not to kill killerleaf on D1 anyway (because of the bandwagon voting on killerleaf).

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

M935 said he wasnt even sure if he could trust pickles and that he kind of took a leap of faith. She could still be wolfy and leading us to lynch Beagle, so I'm not fully convinced

It's why we test the information.

Do you have any reason to believe beagle ISNT a wolf?

 

[Dinashadow]

It's why we test the information.

Do you have any reason to believe beagle ISNT a wolf?

I don't, I'm just trying to look at all the angles. Beagle could very well be a wolf and pickles not but I'm leaning towards one being a wolf and the other not.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

It's why we test the information.

Do you have any reason to believe beagle ISNT a wolf?

I can rephrase I said something earlier to relate to this


If a person appears to have reason to believe someone is a wolf, that is better than your lack of information to indicate they aren't a wolf.

Make sense?

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

More comments:

Pickles, Coffee, M935Coffee. These players have gotten together and cast strong lynch votes against Beagle. If they don’t waffle back-and-forth later on and change their votes against Beagle at the end of D1 (and Beagle is lynched at the end of the D2 - but Beagle turns out to be a villager), I’ll be inclined to look hard at pickles, M935 and Coffee on D3. Or, were they provided with wrong information (e.g., from pickles) who seems to be speaking in riddles/nonsense on D2?





M935. He wants to lynch Beagle and claims to “know a way to find out which one of two people” are a wolf. This claim seems risky to me because it's telling everyone that he has some sort of ability to identify wolves or wolfy players. I’d think the wolves would think hard about killing M935 and get him out of the way asap, unless the wolves have some reason for wanting to keep M935 in the game, and they do not want to kill him off right now.

With respect to pickles' recent post about Princess Consuela Banana Hammock, Beagle Easter, Santa Paws, and We are World references:



@picklegurl are you able to say anything more ... yanno ... to help us understand what you're saying, or not saying? It's seems confusing.

Yeah I was more sure before the banana hammock stuff. Now I need to think about that before I trust what pickles voted.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Stagg. Providing info about game mechanics … he or she seems neutral.

Dandelion. Feels neutral to village right now but just my feeling, that's all.

Shelter. Still contributing posts on this thread and analyzing interactions. Changed vote to lynch M935 (from earlier vote to lynch Coffee).



Gotta give her credit for being gutsy. If M935 is wrong about Beagle (and Beagle is a villager), we will have lost a villager (i.e., Beagle), and I’ll be inclined to lean neutral to villager for shelter, at this early stage of the game. On the other hand, if M935 is correct about Beagle (and Beagle is a wolf), I’ll be inclined to lean neutral to villager on M935 right now. If pickles (who is currently speaking in riddles) is providing misleading/wrong information, I won't be leaning one way or the other; and I'll still be feeling confused by pickles riddle-posts. This is another reason why I don't want to jump on any bandwagons so early in this game. Just don't have enough info right now.

Once again, to be clear I am not saying beagle is definitely a wolf. Before the pickle riddle, I was saying that either beagle is a wolf or pickle is.

But now I’m not sure. Maybe they are both wolves and the riddle is meant to confuse me/us. Or maybe the alien is making her say **** in a weird way. Like the saving each other thing—maybe they’re both wolves and they are hoping that their ploy will turn everyone against me so that I will get lynched and they don’t have to use a NK on me.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

M935 said he wasnt even sure if he could trust pickles and that he kind of took a leap of faith. She could still be wolfy and leading us to lynch Beagle, so I'm not fully convinced

Right but the point is that beagle gets lynched. If beagle is a wolf we got one. If beagle is a villager, then pickle is the wolf.

Now with the alien **** and weird riddle, I’m not sure that stills applies and have to see if I can figure out what the riddle thing means if anything.

 

[Dinashadow]

Lynch Pickles

I find it weird that M935 put his trust in her and didn't die. It's as though he had some use to the wolves because of his ability or that he is a wolf and they're working together to throw us off.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 2 Time And Relative Dimension In Space Lynch Tally
coffee? () -
shelter (1) - grebes
grebes (2) - dandelion, zigzag
beagles (5) - pickle, dirty thirty, coffee?, frosty, killer
Barkley (1) - msu
dirty thirty (1) - shelter
pickles (2) - beags, Dinashadows

12/19 votes
Deadline: 10pm EST (~3 hours)

@Beagle-Brigade You are winning!

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Lynch Pickles

I find it weird that M935 put his trust in her and didn't die. It's as though he had some use to the wolves because of his ability or that he is a wolf and they're working together to throw us off.

Something doesn’t seem right. I’m gonna see if I can decipher the word salad she posted.

 

[Dandelion18]

Right but the point is that beagle gets lynched. If beagle is a wolf we got one. If beagle is a villager, then pickle is the wolf.

Now with the alien **** and weird riddle, I’m not sure that stills applies and have to see if I can figure out what the riddle thing means if anything.

If what you gave Pickles was an item that could investigate someone, we all need to be aware that it is possible that the person she investigated was a villager so she cast a random vote for anyone else. She can’t tell us right now if she actually found a wolf or not.

Pickles, I don’t know about your post restriction but if you are able, like this post if you feel SURE that Beagle is a wolf.

 

[Dandelion18]

Or, if you are NOT sure that Beagles is a wolf, like this post, Pickles.

 

[Dinashadow]

I'm still trying to figure out why Coffee's answer to her question led to her picking Beagle for lynching

 

[Barkley13]

I'm still trying to figure out why Coffee's answer to her question led to her picking Beagle for lynching

Unless she was going to lynch beagle anyway but that was part of the posting restriction

 

[muttmanager]

I see a lot of tin-foiling going on.

@Beagle-Brigade have you looked into anyone besides the person that lead your lynch?

m395 lightvillage leans. definitely over sharing - admitted to editing post then added it back- the possibility of a false role is circling in my head so

killer neutral/not sure. ski the faux noob sacrificed herself to protect killer? I voted here based on lack of relevant content yesterday's posts, I dont trust that she didn't die though

@dolphin106258 see above re: yesterdays killer vote question.

shelter wolf leans - was on grebes' case for fishing info from m###, now seems to be focused on questioning m### - sketchy

grebes neutral/not sure

pickle neutral/not sure - likely has post modification

stagg, coffee, doc-S village leans, long helpful posts

stella, ziggy, MSU, emlady, dolphin Neutral/notsure

 

[muttmanager]

Lynch Pickles

I find it weird that M935 put his trust in her and didn't die. It's as though he had some use to the wolves because of his ability or that he is a wolf and they're working together to throw us off.

What does the red mean?

 

[Stagg737]

Lynch Beegs

For now. I have more thinking to do when I get home, but at this point I believe this is an egg that needs to be cracked and has the most potential upsides of the 3 lynches I'm considering right now.

 

[Dinashadow]

What does the red mean?

What if M935 put his trust in pickles who is a wolf and then wasn't killed because he's unintentionally helping them with whatever his ability is? Or is that not possible?

 

[MSUcvmHOPE]

This is the level of tinfoil I feel right now.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Reasons that a person claiming an ability would not be killed could include 1) kill decision being made by somebody who didn't understand the implication 2) curiosity leading wolves to seer instead of kill 3) assumption that they would be protected

It's not really suspect unless they continue to live

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

What if M935 put his trust in pickles who is a wolf and then wasn't killed because he's unintentionally helping them with whatever his ability is? Or is that not possible?

There would be no way for wolves to know his ability before they selected their kill NOR could they predict Matt would selectvpickle as his target

 

[Stagg737]

killer neutral/not sure. ski the faux noob sacrificed herself to protect killer? I voted here based on lack of relevant content yesterday's posts, I dont trust that she didn't die though

From what I've seen in noob games, sometimes for the first day a vet gets sacrificed so noobs can have an opportunity to make it to D2. I think it's more likely that Ski was going to die on D1 no matter what as opposed to sacrificing herself to save someone.

It might be? As far as I can tell, either this is a side effect of whatever she tried to do with an item last night OR someone used a different item on her to cause the post restriction. I assume her night time write up told her which one it was, but it looks like she can't tell us one way or the other while the post restriction applies.

There may also be a post-restriction role out there. It's a fairly common, and extremely annoying role (typically a wolf role).

What if M935 put his trust in pickles who is a wolf and then wasn't killed because he's unintentionally helping them with whatever his ability is? Or is that not possible?

Certainly possible that he has been left alive to be manipulated. Also possible that wolves just thought he'd be a big target for a village lynch while they stay more in the background. Many possibilities as to why he's still alive. It's also possible that he's a woof. At this point in the game it's difficult to draw conclusions, so you should lay out all possibilities and consider which are most likely.

 

[muttmanager]

What if M935 put his trust in pickles who is a wolf and then wasn't killed because he's unintentionally helping them with whatever his ability is? Or is that not possible?

Anything is possible, just the wording confused me.

 

[WildZoo]

Beegs

You need to stop this 😛

 

[Stagg737]

You need to stop this 😛

NEVER!!! You knew this was coming and they need nicknames!!

 

[muttmanager]

From what I've seen in noob games, sometimes for the first day a vet gets sacrificed so noobs can have an opportunity to make it to D2. I think it's more likely that Ski was going to die on D1 no matter what as opposed to sacrificing herself to save someone.

Soo killer goes back to the wolf side for me.

Who are your other 2 leans?

 

[WildZoo]

NEVER!!! You knew this was coming and they need nicknames!!

They don't all need nonsensical nicknames by the second day of their first game

 

[Dandelion18]

Just pointing out that while I don’t know what to make of this M###/Pickles/Beagle mess at the moment, I HAVE noticed that @grebes4lyfe has gone radio silent despite being VERY vocal the first day and a half. Added to the suspicious content day 1, even more comfortable with a grebes lynch

 

[deleted867257]

This could be the “aliens” sabotaging my plan to expose a wolf. Or maybe it’s misdirection and beagle is still the wolf.

I may have missed this in my chaotic catching up when I was studying for renal phys. But we absolutely are 100% sure there are aliens AND wolves involved? And that there's an alien with the capability to infect others? So the game can either be villagers are killed and wolves win, or aliens infest most villagers and win over the wolves, or villagers manage to somehow override wolves and aliens and win? I'm unfamiliar with alien mechanics in WW.

Random thoughts that I would appreciate anyone else's insight to--If pickles has been hit with a post restriction, is it worthwhile to hold off on lynching her until she can defend herself? Is it too convenient that she and M### were the center of attention yesterday and now she is post restricted and people want to lynch her when she can't defend herself?

I think this is a fair comment. We are unsure what spurred the post restriction, was it using the item, is it a symptom of infection as others have speculated? If she still is speaking in riddles come D3, what does that mean for us, if anything at all?

If what you gave Pickles was an item that could investigate someone, we all need to be aware that it is possible that the person she investigated was a villager so she cast a random vote for anyone else. She can’t tell us right now if she actually found a wolf or not.

Pickles, I don’t know about your post restriction but if you are able, like this post if you feel SURE that Beagle is a wolf.

Quoted this because it's the comment that made me think of something else. @M## Is it possible that you're able to make items for other players use (no restrictions given, seems too good to be true) so as a result, it's the item made itself that results in the weird restrictions? Just something to keep in mind when you give another player an item (if the WW let you live another night with this power), it may be worth noting to see if any patterns begin to pop up with weird behavior, restrictions, etc. and the players you give items to.

 

[deleted867257]

Just pointing out that while I don’t know what to make of this M###/Pickles/Beagle mess at the moment, I HAVE noticed that @grebes4lyfe has gone radio silent despite being VERY vocal the first day and a half. Added to the suspicious content day 1, even more comfortable with a grebes lynch

Hey guys I’m working a 10h shift today and tomorrow with limited ability to keep up here. Will try my best between patients.

###contingency lynch shelter###

Mostly based on gut feels and meta stuff from previous games ive played with her. When she was village in the first game I played with her, she was super quiet and kinda absent. Last game we played together she was a wolf and came at me in a similar way and got me lynched D1. She came at me awful hard yesterday and it reminds me of wolf shelter.

I’m not dead set on this, but in light of a lack of feels about anyone else, this is what I’m going with.

That being said, M935–did you collect any proof of anything last night? I would like to see it. I think we all gave you the benefit of the doubt yesterday but you need to back it up now otherwise I’m gonna vote for you.

For whatever it's worth, she provided an explanation for today and tomorrow at around 8AM today. Unsure if genuine or wolfy avoidance behavior to give a reason for not being an active participant. Hasn't been back since 10AM (at least not to comment). I'm hoping she is able to get a good read and catch up on today's activities to give her thoughts on the M##/Pickle/Beagle situation. Depending on when her shift started, she may be missing lynch entirely though.

 

[Barkley13]

After thinking about it I am going to

Lynch Beagle

because we need to know if pickle's information is right or if she is trying to lead us in a wrong direction

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

This is what wolf hunting from coffee looks like 😉

WOW
So much to catch up on!
First impressions: pickles is by far the most consistently sketchy player to me, I'll go collect some quotes and explain why. M935 seems like a big personality to me, I understand why some actions/posts are coming off as sketchy to some people but I'm not there yet. Also can we talk about how he hinted at a night power and didn't die?!?!? And us not lynching the person we were trying to? It would be tempting to lynch killer again and see what happens and maybe give us a better understanding of what exactly is going on with the abilities here...

1. Pickles is sketchy
2. Matt isnt sketchy
3. Killer is sketchy

Pattern I noticed reading from the begining:

General defensiveness and explaining every action/wanting other's explanations on D1 where you can't do a lot of strategy, it really felt to me like an attempt to point fingers and keep our attention off her


Lots of other people were bandwagoning at this point, picked one person to single out for it


Seems defensive to me? Trying to throw suspicion all over the place, even though there were zero votes for her when she posted this


TOTAL 180 in strategy ?!?!? Went from looking at every comment/action/post under a microscope to random riddles...

LYNCH PICKLES
(also The Office and Brooklyn 9-9 are the BEST, looks like I've found my people 😍 )

a. Pickles is sketchy

Maybe a noob mistake? If M### isn't lynched tomorrow morning I'll be SHOOK

A. Matt should be lynched (inconsistent)

I voted based on name (random really) early yesterday. Killer's responses made me less worried about them being a wolf, but the not getting lynched part raised some red flags. However I still feel like the best candidate for being a wolf is pickles, so that's why I voted that way

i. Killer isnt sketchy (inconsistent) but should still be lynched (what?)
ii. Pickles is good choice for wolf

Not sure why everyone is jumping on this idea that pickles or I have to be a wolf. Sure her random cryptic vote could be a way to use an item on me, or communicate to another player, or maybe it was to test and see if I'm anything? Maybe it protects me? I don't totally understand items but there was something really weird to me about that, hence my lynch vote today.

-. Pickles may not be a wolf at all but still lynching her (inconsistent)

 

[Lupin21]

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lol. WZ, I have a 1/3 finished game sheet revolving around hitchhikers from a couple years ago. Good noob stuff.
Hope there are sneaky wwers with wit and cunning in the making! Have a great game, new players, and remember...

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[dolphin106258]

This is what wolf hunting from coffee looks like 😉



1. Pickles is sketchy
2. Matt isnt sketchy
3. Killer is sketchy



1. Pickles is sketchy



1. Matt should be lynched (inconsistent)



1. Killer isnt sketchy (inconsistent) but should still be lynched (what?)
2. Pickles is good choice for wolf



1. Pickles may not be a wolf at all but still lynching her (inconsistent)

Yes that fourth quote was something I had noticed in her response to me and was going to question. Completely forgot.

 

[dolphin106258]

Lynch beagle

Definitely worth something pursuing at this point and was where my brain was at this afternoon before i was pulled away from the thread.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I may have missed this in my chaotic catching up when I was studying for renal phys. But we absolutely are 100% sure there are aliens AND wolves involved? And that there's an alien with the capability to infect others? So the game can either be villagers are killed and wolves win, or aliens infest most villagers and win over the wolves, or villagers manage to somehow override wolves and aliens and win? I'm unfamiliar with alien mechanics in WW.

No we don't actually know this.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

The weird posting that pickle is doing is throwing me off.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

The weird posting that pickle is doing is throwing me off.

You know.
It kind of reminds me of my own posting style in past games.
I am fond of it for that reason.

 

[muttmanager]

@Beagle-Brigade have you looked into anyone besides the person that lead your lynch?

lynch Beagle
I'm willing to put some pressure here

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 2 Time And Relative Dimension In Space Lynch Tally
coffee? () -
shelter (1) - grebes
grebes (2) - dandelion, zigzag
beagles (9) - pickle, dirty thirty, coffee?, frosty, killer, Stagg, Barkley, dolphin, muttts
Barkley (1) - msu
dirty thirty (1) - shelter
pickles (2) - beags, Dinashadows

16/19 votes
Deadline: 10pm EST (~50 minutes)

@Beagle-Brigade You are winning!

 

[Stagg737]

Soo killer goes back to the wolf side for me.

Who are your other 2 leans?

I have many leans, but two others I would consider lynching at this point. I would prefer not to say at this point though until we see how Beagle flips though.

I may have missed this in my chaotic catching up when I was studying for renal phys. But we absolutely are 100% sure there are aliens AND wolves involved? And that there's an alien with the capability to infect others? So the game can either be villagers are killed and wolves win, or aliens infest most villagers and win over the wolves, or villagers manage to somehow override wolves and aliens and win? I'm unfamiliar with alien mechanics in WW.

As Dirk said, we do not know this at this point, just speculation and tinfoil at this point.

They don't all need nonsensical nicknames by the second day of their first game

YES THEY DO!!!

 

[MSUcvmHOPE]

Alright starting to get close to the wire. I agree that at least following the possible beagle lead could be beneficial. And since Barkies never retaliated or said anything about my lunch vote (hurt. Lol)...
Unlynch Barkies, Lynch Beagsies

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 2 Time And Relative Dimension In Space Lynch Tally
coffee? () -
shelter (1) - grebes
grebes (2) - dandelion, zigzag
beagles (10) - pickle, dirty thirty, coffee?, frosty, killer, Stagg, Barkley, dolphin, mutts, MSU
Barkley () -
dirty thirty (1) - shelter
pickles (2) - beags, Dinashadows

16/19 votes
Deadline: 10pm EST (~30 minutes)

@Beagle-Brigade You are winning!