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How I feel this lynch has gone
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So, Pickles lived through the lynch. How could that be?!?

There's a few situations in which a wolf gets lynched but doesn't die.

First is that their ability is lynch avoidance. This typically allows for a 1x lynch avoidance for a player. This can be a village or wolf ability, but due to the nature of it it comes off as instantly sketch when anyone claims that role. This is because pretty much any wolf who survives a lynch can attempt to claim this role in an attempt to not get lynched a second time.

The second is an unlynchable wolf. This is a wolf who has to be killed by some other means such as a vigilante or an item. I have not been in a game where there was an actual unlynchable wolf, but it's a possibility.

The third is an Alpha Wolf. This is the leader of the pack and in order to lynch them, you have to kill every other wolf first. Aka they're the final boss. There are exceptions to this rule. In some games, the vig can kill the alpha wolf while other wolves are still alive. This happened in Pokemon when Dolphin was the alpha wolf but got NK'd by someone (don't remember who). Another is the possibility of an item being used to kill the alpha.

There are a few thought processes on what to do when a player doesn't die after a lynch. Most of the time they don't out themselves. So a common and fairly safe rule is "If it doesn't die, kill it twice." Living through 2 lynches essentially confirms that a player is a wolf, and if they only have a 1x avoidance then you catch a wolf. This is valid because wolves will generally not reveal themselves unless they are going to die, as getting village to spend another lynch on them essentially gives them an extra night to kill people. So a wolf will often continue to pretend to be a villager until after the second lynch.

However, in this situation the wolf has outed herself. This could be a noob mistake from not understanding these mechanics OR she could be an alpha wolf/unlynchable wolf who is hoping that by revealing herself we will focus on her and not the other wolves. So village will have to decide whether to lynch her a second time in hopes she has a 1x avoidance or attempt to look into other wolves with the belief she is an Alpha.
 
However, in this situation the wolf has outed herself. This could be a noob mistake from not understanding these mechanics OR she could be an alpha wolf/unlynchable wolf who is hoping that by revealing herself we will focus on her and not the other wolves. So village will have to decide whether to lynch her a second time in hopes she has a 1x avoidance or attempt to look into other wolves with the belief she is an Alpha.

Could there be a stipulation where she had to reveal herself to save herself from the Lynch?
 
Coffee has been active on SDN today. I think she is silenced
 
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Friendly reminder to all that using activity on other parts of the forum, or the online status of a player, as part of game analysis is heavily frowned upon and will earn some mod slaps

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Noted. My bad, sorry
 
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-insert X-Files theme here-

He wanted to believe, believe in his ability to find those who had been killing his friends. And he had been right before. So it was with confidence that Foxy Smolder Agent Mulder set off for his next investigative target. He had made himself vulnerable in order to take down the first one. Surely someone would have his back.

He was approached by a short figure in dark clothing.
"Hello, Agent."
"Who are you?" Mulder eyed the man suspiciously. It wasn't who he had come looking for, but looked downright nefarious.
"That doesn't matter. This is the end of the line for you. Evil will always triumph. Do you know why? Because good is dumb."
"Are you sure about that? You guys don't seem to be doing too hot."
"Oh you have no idea. Our numbers grow stronger even as we speak. Soon our forces will..."

Mulder blocked out the sound of the man's monologue as he looked around for a way to save himself. Was there really no one here to help him out? He supposed it was to be expected - there were others that needed protecting too. It might not have made a difference anyway. He looked back towards his enemy and was not surprised to find that the weird little dude was still talking.

"Look, if you're gonna kill me, just get it over with. I'd rather have the silence of death than continue to listen to the sound of your voice."

That seemed to do the trick.

Dead is @Dandelion18, who was Spooky Mulder, a villager and affiliation seer.


14 players remain

1. @emlady09
3. @Barkley13
5. @Matthew9Thirtyfive
6. @Dinashadow
7. @ziggyandjazzy
8. @Doctor-S
11. @picklegurl
14. @MSUcvmHOPE
15. @sheltermed
16. @muttmanager
18. @killerleaf
19. @Stagg737
20. @dolphin106258
21. @CoffeeQuestionMark

Lost in Space
2. @SkiOtter - Marvin the Paranoid Android, Ritual Sacrifice
9. @mypetmoose - Magrathean Sperm Whale, Lover
10. @Beagle-Brigade - Joseph Cooper, Night Cancel
12. @FrostySparrow - Black Hole, Neutral
13. @Stella Mudd - Bowl of Petunias, Lover
4. @grebes4lyfe - Quiet Supernova, Wolf
17. @Dandelion18 - Spooky Mulder, Seer

It is now Day 4. Lynch deadline is 10pm EST.
 
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They don’t know
have a clue why
I am not going strong
I don’t want you in the same place
Oh no no clue why did not answer the question
I don’t want to go
So precious
Two or three different things to do
Yes
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Some things that immediately come to mind --

Dandy is the first one who said we shouldn't lynch Coffee. I am going to assume that's because she affiliation seered her. Later on, Stagg also recommended we not lynch Coffee - had he been PMing with Dandy or communicating with her in some way? Or, (genuine question) is there a role that has the ability to tell when someone's been seered? There's a possibility that Coffee could not be seered (though I'm not sure why that would lead Dandy to telling us not to lynch her) or that Dandy was given a false result when she seered her (is the latter a thing?).

I haven't thought too far into this but at first glance I'm wondering if the transmission is from Dandy as well. Perhaps wondering why she didn't answer the question of why we shouldn't lynch Coffee, that her role was precious, and that she had two or three different people she had in mind to seer. Not sure, but just my first thoughts.

I am inclined not to look at Coffee anymore today but I would like to hear from her if she is able.
 
Some things that immediately come to mind --

Dandy is the first one who said we shouldn't lynch Coffee. I am going to assume that's because she affiliation seered her. Later on, Stagg also recommended we not lynch Coffee - had he been PMing with Dandy or communicating with her in some way? Or, (genuine question) is there a role that has the ability to tell when someone's been seered? There's a possibility that Coffee could not be seered (though I'm not sure why that would lead Dandy to telling us not to lynch her) or that Dandy was given a false result when she seered her (is the latter a thing?).

I haven't thought too far into this but at first glance I'm wondering if the transmission is from Dandy as well. Perhaps wondering why she didn't answer the question of why we shouldn't lynch Coffee, that her role was precious, and that she had two or three different people she had in mind to seer. Not sure, but just my first thoughts.

I am inclined not to look at Coffee anymore today but I would like to hear from her if she is able.
Yeah I think it’s pretty safe to say coffee is likely okay.
 
I am inclined to believe pickles is an Alpha wolf right now.

If she was a regular wolf, I would think this morning's write-up would have reported her as having been successfully lynched because she was in the lynch lead at the end of D3. However, pickles has not been reported dead this morning. Instead, she has been listed as alive in the write-up. After the close of D3, she has been chattering and mocking other players (e.g., M935) and causing lots of grief. So, I'm inclined to believe she is an Alpha wolf. I don't want to waste lynch votes on pickles if we need to lynch every other wolf in this game first before pickles is 100% dead.

I'm also interested in hearing about others' thoughts about pickles at this time

Also ...

Leaning village on Stagg, Ziggy, Coffee, M935.
 
I'm glad we were able to Lynch pickles but I am not sure where to go from here.

What does the transmission mean and why is it purple?
 
Okay-- Below are my attempts to get Stagg back the ability to vote.

1. Saying his name 3 times: Stagg, Stagg, Stagg

2. Saying his name backwards: ggatS

3. Referring to him by the wrong pronoun: That Stagg, she sure is in a pickle.

4. Lynching Staggs: Unlynch mutts, Lynch Stagg (Sorry, it just seemed like a reasonable thing to try!)

5. Unlynching Staggs: Unlynch Stagg, Lynch mutts

6. Making outrageous claims about Stagg: I saw Stagg riding reindeer around Cancun during last night cycle.

7. Placing Stagg's name in very fashionable font color: Stagg

8. Referring to Stagg by his full username: Stagg737

9. Agreeing with Stagg; He is definitely right about everything.

10. Disagreeing with Stagg: Everything he says is wrong for sure.

Did I do it? Am I close???
This amused me a lot while I was silenced. Thank you.

@Stagg737 you need some Coffee in your life. That's all.

I can explain. TWICE during the game I can use my ability. It is a bit a la little mermaid in that when I use it I lose my voice. I used it yesterday to cure ziggy. The other way it can be used is to restore anything that is lost... or used up.

So I could heal Stagg today (and be silenced again, yuck)

UNFORTUnATELY, I was not thinking to heal ziggy yesterday as there is another way it can be used and I will not be able to do both anymore

If I knew who the vigilante was, I can restore their kill and they can take out pickles.

I will leave it up to you nooblets to decide which you would prefer.
 
I’m pretty confused by the transmissions at this point. This pickle reveal has changed things for me. I read m###/pickles interactions as w/v and tunneled on the wrong one, sorry m###

More village (not in order) - coffee, stagg, emlady, shelter, m###

I'm thinking Pickle is an alpha or just unlynchable – not sure

I’m more suspicious of Ziggy today. Yesterday she claimed pickles was a villager, pushed an emlady vote, then voted for pickles once her lynch started picking up votes could be bussing

The ziggy/pickles interaction re: virus is reading w/w now trying to throw us off of their behavior under the influence. Ziggy tried to make pickles seem unreliable in case she was lynched and proven a wolf bc she knew she wouldn’t die to gain more village cred for herself
 
... I'm speculating and analyzing the posts of the sketchiest player right now, honestly throughout the game.

I'm looking at mutt. She has been barely posting throughout the game. She does not seem to be offering analyses about different players; and she does not seem to be actively searching for any wolves.

Despite saying she is “speculating and analyzing” posts, she does not seem to be searching for sketchy players on this thread. I don’t really see any “speculation” or “analysis” from her for the past 3 days. So, it’s possible she might be staying under the radar if she is a wolf (or some other type of a non-villager/neutral).

@muttmanager I’d like to hear more from you. What are your thoughts about the players you feel are sketchy right now?

I’m also worried about a few other players, but for now (and to get some conversation from mutt):

Lynch mutt
 
I’m pretty confused by the transmissions at this point. This pickle reveal has changed things for me. I read m###/pickles interactions as w/v and tunneled on the wrong one, sorry m###

More village (not in order) - coffee, stagg, emlady, shelter, m###

I'm thinking Pickle is an alpha or just unlynchable – not sure

I’m more suspicious of Ziggy today. Yesterday she claimed pickles was a villager, pushed an emlady vote, then voted for pickles once her lynch started picking up votes could be bussing

The ziggy/pickles interaction re: virus is reading w/w now trying to throw us off of their behavior under the influence. Ziggy tried to make pickles seem unreliable in case she was lynched and proven a wolf bc she knew she wouldn’t die to gain more village cred for herself
I think I have been a pretty consistent player. While I was silenced, I latched on to Emmy and went back and read her posts, realizing I may have made a mistake there. I then became increasingly suspicious of mutt and pickles. I was the first to try to bring down pickles.

Lynch mutt
 
TWICE during the game I can use my ability. It is a bit a la little mermaid in that when I use it I lose my voice. I used it yesterday to cure ziggy. The other way it can be used is to restore anything that is lost... or used up.

So I could heal Stagg today (and be silenced again, yuck)

UNFORTUnATELY, I was not thinking to heal ziggy yesterday as there is another way it can be used and I will not be able to do both anymore

If I knew who the vigilante was, I can restore their kill and they can take out pickles.

I will leave it up to you nooblets to decide which you would prefer.
So if you used your ability again, it would be gone forever. Can you bring someone back with it? Not sure what you mean by some of this...
 
Honestly I would have changed my vote...but at that point in the evening it would not have mattered. Plus I'm not any more sure on anyone else at this point.

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That's the issue. I don't really have top wolf candidates. I've only got those I think are villagers, those who are questionable but not exactly suspicious yet to me, and those who aren't saying enough who I'm curious about.

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With what's going on with pickles (granted idk if wolves get weird abilities too or not) it seems more likely to me that either Mr. Numbers is doing it wrong or he is trying to have us take out 2 people for them. But with luck all the wolves are actually laying low and letting us poke each other's eyes out. Who knows at this moment.

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I'm sus of Emlady since she, like Greebies, have been trying to getting rid of Mr. Numbers both days. Since Greebs turns out to be a wolf in inclined to think that Ems is also one and that they don't like Numbers' abilities and we're trying to get the group to snuff him out.
Still looking over data, but going to a party tonight. So for the moment ###Lynch Emlady###

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Well this whole thing turned hella fast. I'm not waffling at this point. Not convinced enough that I should.

You seem to be very unsure of a lot. Are you sure of anything today?
 
@muttmanager I’d like to hear more from you. What are your thoughts about the players you feel are sketchy right now?

Right now, ziggy for reasons in previous post.

Also maybe you missed these:

I see a lot of tin-foiling going on.

@Beagle-Brigade have you looked into anyone besides the person that lead your lynch?

m395 lightvillage leans. definitely over sharing - admitted to editing post then added it back- the possibility of a false role is circling in my head so

killer neutral/not sure. ski the faux noob sacrificed herself to protect killer? I voted here based on lack of relevant content yesterday's posts, I dont trust that she didn't die though

@dolphin106258 see above re: yesterdays killer vote question.

shelter
wolf leans - was on grebes' case for fishing info from m###, now seems to be focused on questioning m### - sketchy

grebes neutral/not sure

pickle
neutral/not sure - likely has post modification

stagg, coffee, doc-S village leans, long helpful posts

stella, ziggy, MSU, emlady, dolphin Neutral/notsure

I have so many feels fight now, first does any one get the reference in the transmission?

@CoffeeQuestionMark what can chaos do? absolutely anything based on the mod?

m395 chaos leans. started the game shouting and has been relatively silent in the last hours, is he letting us stew and does he want us to lynch him now?

@sheltermed @Stagg737 interested in on your coffee reads

@Dandelion18 100% certain?

not sure -
killer - still I dont trust that she didn't die though
grebes - feels like defensive villager
shelter - seems to be tunneling on m395
pickle - need more quality posts

village leans
stagg, coffee, doc-S, MSU, emlady, dolphin
 
Now that you point those out I'm curious for what reason MSU is a village lean

He was. Not any more I noticed a similar pattern, you just pointed out.
And the below is pretty strange, esp when barklies had been more active than msu at that point

Today I chose someone I haven't heard from much to see if I could draw out some chat from them. I'll wait to cast or change votes as the evening progresses... And I get out of work.

I do find it interesting, and believe that pickles could have gotten a lead on beagle from the possible secret/loaded question, but whether that lead is beneficial for one party or the other I've yet to determine.

Alright starting to get close to the wire. I agree that at least following the possible beagle lead could be beneficial. And since Barkies never retaliated or said anything about my lunch vote (hurt. Lol)...
Unlynch Barkies, Lynch Beagsies
 
Soggy I must ask why you were lunching and unlynching repeatedly yesterday. What was your reasoning
I said this previously but it will be good to sum it up again. When I was infected with the microbe, I couldn't talk clearly. I was pretty dang sure grebes was a wolf and I was (am) suspicious of you. I was trying to get this across in my Lynch votes waffling between you and grebes in case I was killed.

After grebes was killed, I switched it to you. Upon further events, pickles and mutts seemed more suspicious to me then you did. So, I switched to pickles and stayed there till she was unsuccessfully lynched.
 
Lol not yet. I'm trying my best. I'll try to find time to be better today (my boyfriend is judging me for looking at this forum all the time).

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Tell him you're playing a super fun game and bonding with your future colleagues 😛
 
I'm going to be gone until later tonight due to life but before I go

Lynch MSU

I was really suspicious last night when she didn't waffle her lynch and she's been flying under the radar. The fact that Coffee? has mentioned it too solidifies my suspicion
 
I can say I apologise for seeming suspicious by not being specific about players. Honestly been playing catch up and trying to figure out whether as village it is ok to be more open or if you should play close to the chest. This is my very first game and irl never heard of all these possible abilities before (kind of intimidating).

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I would like to hear more from @Barkley13, @Dinashadow (when possible), @killerleaf, and @dolphin106258 . If you're a villager, now would be a pretty good time to help us out

Something I have noticed: pickles, grebes, mutts, and dinashadow all voted to Lynch killer the first day
shelter voted to lynch grebes so that is making me feel safer about you
Other people I mentioned didn't vote for grebes or killer
 
Good morning my fellow villagers! I had a very long night last night. Here is something for you all to ponder. Have you ever heard of a lycan? A villager during the day, but a wolf at night? If you lynch me today, then you are killing one of your own. Also, for those of you that claim to never trust a wolf, I told you that I would kill Dandy, and guess what happened... Maybe you should trust a wolf as I have not lied to you all yet.
 
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