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picklegurl said:
Good morning my fellow villagers! I had a very long night last night. Here is something for you all to ponder. Have you ever heard of a lycan? A villager during the day, but a wolf at night? If you lynch me today, then you are killing one of your own. Also, for those of you that claim to never trust a wolf, I told you that I would kill Dandy, and guess what happened... Maybe you should trust a wolf as I have not lied to you all yet.
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That's not a thing and even if it were you'd still be a wolf 😛
 
Yeah I don't understand how that could possibly work mechanically in the game.

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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
@Matthew9Thirtyfive p.s. hope you realize you were right that either one or the other had to be wolf so go with your gut next time.
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I do realize that. I did go with my gut which is why I kept on beagle even though I suspected I was voting to potentially sacrifice a villager to out a wolf. But the microbe thing threw me off. I still thought pickles was wolf but couldn’t be 100% sure like I would have been without the microbe.
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
I do realize that. I did go with my gut which is why I kept on beagle even though I suspected I was voting to potentially sacrifice a villager to out a wolf. But the microbe thing threw me off. I still thought pickles was wolf but couldn’t be 100% sure like I would have been without the microbe.
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Remember though the IRL pickles is not affected...she is still cognitive of all the things happening on thread and consciously made a decision to not use an item that likely said exactly what it did... 😛 I would've pointed that out had I not silenced myself before I had the duhhh moment
 
picklegurl said:
@Matthew9Thirtyfive Actually, I will do you one better. I will muzzle myself today, as I am so tired from all the work I had to do last night. However, before I completely go off the radar. See you tomorrow, hopefully...

LYNCH KOFFEE
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Looking forward to it. 😉
 
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Unofficial Day 4 Busy Mod Doesn't Have a Theme Yet Lynch Tally
Mutt (3) - Doc-S, zigzagoon, Matty ice
Msu (2) - coffee?, dinamite
Koffee (1) - pickles

6/14 voting
Deadline 10pm EST (~9.5 hours)
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Implied may have been a better word and it was Thursday, my mistake.

ziggyandjazzy said:
I am suspicious of dirty thirty. But that also just may be initial gut reaction. I can't get a good read on him. Pickles doesn't seem suspicious to me as of yet.
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However: You lead an emmy lynch (likely village), then transitioned to lead the pickle lynch based on suspicion you bread from similar experience you had. That seems like bussing to me, esp since she survived the lynch. I’m feeling framed right now. I’m not sure you’re a wolf but your play has been inconsistent and sketchy

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muttmanager said:
Do you think she won't die on a 2nd lynch?
I have strong ziggy feels but, MSU would be up next if the consensus is pickle can't be lynched.
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Curious why you feel strongly about ziggy, who spent all day trying to get us to lynch grebes--a wolf. She then suspected you and pickles, and ultimately went with pickles--also a wolf.
 
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Little Red Riding Wolf. Wow M### I really hate that you infected me with this microbe again. Can you stop infecting all of us villagers? It is super annoying. @Matthew9Thirtyfive
 
muttmanager said:
Do you think she won't die on a 2nd lynch?
I have strong ziggy feels but, MSU would be up next if the consensus is pickle can't be lynched.
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There is usually a rule that goes if it doesn't die the first time try again.
I do not like this rule. The likelihood that they will die the second time is not that great (1x death avoidance is a thing yes) but my preference is to try to kill them a different way and if that doesn't work save them for last. You know their ability already, you know they are a wolf, so there isn't much more to gain/lose.
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
Curious why you feel strongly about ziggy, who spent all day trying to get us to lynch grebes--a wolf. She then suspected you and pickles, and ultimately went with pickles--also a wolf.
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Im curious why you're lynching me with out even reading my posts as I've made my ziggy point already. Do you have a specific question?
 
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Well this just happened... If the image doesn't show up I'm painting ornaments annnnnd the one I finished shattered. I'm going to be busier today than hoped. Sorry guys.
 
muttmanager said:
Im curious why you're lynching me with out even reading my posts as I've made my ziggy point already. Do you have a specific question?
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My vote was for you yesterday. I changed it to pickle because I didn't want to have a tie between coffee and pickle.

Your logic makes no sense to me. Zigzag suspected emmy (as did a lot of people), then switched to pickle because we decided to target her. And pickle turned out to be a wolf. So my question is what specifically are you suspicious of her for? That she's a wolf who targeted another wolf knowing she wouldn't die? If I recall correctly, she only changed to pickles right at the end.
 
MSUcvmHOPE said:
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Well this just happened... If the image doesn't show up I'm painting ornaments annnnnd the one I finished shattered. I'm going to be busier today than hoped. Sorry guys.
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🙁 It looked beautiful though
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
My vote was for you yesterday. I changed it to pickle because I didn't want to have a tie between coffee and pickle.

Your logic makes no sense to me. Zigzag suspected emmy (as did a lot of people), then switched to pickle because we decided to target her. And pickle turned out to be a wolf. So my question is what specifically are you suspicious of her for? That she's a wolf who targeted another wolf knowing she wouldn't die? If I recall correctly, she only changed to pickles right at the end.
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You're not paying attention, she started the em suspicions during her post restriction. She actually lead the pickle lynch, as i pointed out, her name is first and bussing is always a possibility.

These behaviors are sketchy to me.

vetmedhead said:
Final Day 3 Tally

Dirty Thirty (1) - mutts
emmy (3) - Barkley, MSU, DrS
Covfefe (3) - shelter, pickles, emmy
Mutts () -
killer () -
Pickles (6) - zigzagoon, dolphin, dinamite, matty, killer, dandy

13/15 voting

Missing: stagg, koffee

Going off Kara's final tally - if this is not correct speak now or forever hold your peace, y'all!
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WildZoo said:
WW Terminology
*may be updated with suggestions -

Bus/Bussing - when a wolf backstabs another to gain the trust of the village
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Yeah, I went after pickles first. I did so because none of what she was saying about the microbe made any sense. I explained this. I was allowed to like things, Lynch, and change my Lynch while affected. Pickles kept making up weird stuff, like that an item m# gave her made her get the microbe, she had to Lynch beagle, that she couldn't change it or like stuff. And she didn't try hard at all to get us to not Lynch beagles. I would guess the wolves control who is silenced and she knew this so she pretended to have it before they gave it to anyone else.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Yeah, I went after pickles first. I did so because none of what she was saying about the microbe made any sense. I explained this. I was allowed to like things, Lynch, and change my Lynch while affected. Pickles kept making up weird stuff, like that an item m# gave her made her get the microbe, she had to Lynch beagle, that she couldn't change it or like stuff. And she didn't try hard at all to get us to not Lynch beagles. I would guess the wolves control who is silenced and she knew this so she pretended to have it before they gave it to anyone else.
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Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't you have your vote on mutt or someone else towards the end of the day? I thought it was you who asked if we were going for pickles and then switched, whether you started out on pickles or not.
 
muttmanager said:
You're not paying attention, she started the em suspicions during her post restriction. She actually lead the pickle lynch, as i pointed out, her name is first and bussing is always a possibility.

These behaviors are sketchy to me.
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Also, zig told us to lynch grebes who turned out to be a wolf. She's just backstabbing multiple wolves? That seems like a poor strategy.
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
Also, zig told us to lynch grebes who turned out to be a wolf. She's just backstabbing multiple wolves? That seems like a poor strategy.
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WildZoo said:
WW Terminology

Pocket - something mysteriously missing from a lot of women's clothing. Also the act of getting another player to trust you, typically by some form of sneaky emotional manipulation
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Not if she has the village on her side and lives until end game. I'm genuinely suspicious of anyone not on my village leans list right now, just her more than others
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Could there be a stipulation where she had to reveal herself to save herself from the Lynch?
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It's possible (anything is possible, especially with @WildZoo modding), but I haven't seen/heard of any games where a wolf had to out themselves to use their power.

sheltermed said:
Some things that immediately come to mind --

Dandy is the first one who said we shouldn't lynch Coffee. I am going to assume that's because she affiliation seered her. Later on, Stagg also recommended we not lynch Coffee - had he been PMing with Dandy or communicating with her in some way? Or, (genuine question) is there a role that has the ability to tell when someone's been seered? There's a possibility that Coffee could not be seered (though I'm not sure why that would lead Dandy to telling us not to lynch her) or that Dandy was given a false result when she seered her (is the latter a thing?).

I haven't thought too far into this but at first glance I'm wondering if the transmission is from Dandy as well. Perhaps wondering why she didn't answer the question of why we shouldn't lynch Coffee, that her role was precious, and that she had two or three different people she had in mind to seer. Not sure, but just my first thoughts.

I am inclined not to look at Coffee anymore today but I would like to hear from her if she is able.
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So since Dandy is dead, I'll give my thoughts on that situation:

Dandy came out and said we needed to lynch Grebes and shortly afterwards said she was certain she was a wolf. After Grebes kept pushing her, she basically outed herself as a seer by saying something like "I'm more than 100% sure she is a wolf". The only a person can be "100% certain" that I can think of is through an item, her being an affiliation seer, or Grebes slipping up and outing herself. Grebes didn't slip up from what I saw and there were already a lot of items which supposedly existed, which made it most likely she had a seer role. When Grebes flipped wolf it suggested Dandy did have some form of seering capability. When Dandy commented later in the day yesterday (a little after 7pm correct standard time) suggesting we not lynch coffee I took it as her being the seer, as an item would typically be a 1x thing. I'm assuming she seered Coffee on N1 and didn't share results because it wasn't necessary, then seered Grebes on N2 who she immediately outed and suggest we vote for. Yes, she could have been a wolf who claimed to seer Grebes, but that would be a HUGE risk and a major power move for that early in the game. Additionally, if someone else was the real seer, they should know that something was up with Dandy.

The idea that Dandy got a false result is certainly possible, as being an "unseerable wolf" is a thing (however this usually sends back results saying "you couldn't seer this person"). From doing some reading, there is also a role called "werekitten" which appears as a villager to those who seer her but is actually a wolf. So it is possible. However, if Coffee were a wolf, that would mean that Dandy seered 2 wolves in the first two nights in a row AND one of them just so happened to be unseerable. So while it's possible, the likelihood of that is very low. Which is why I suggested we not lynch Coffee y/day. Given the results from last lynch and Coffee's claimed role, I've got her sitting in my village pile for now.

Doctor-S said:
I am inclined to believe pickles is an Alpha wolf right now.

If she was a regular wolf, I would think this morning's write-up would have reported her as having been successfully lynched because she was in the lynch lead at the end of D3. However, pickles has not been reported dead this morning. Instead, she has been listed as alive in the write-up. After the close of D3, she has been chattering and mocking other players (e.g., M935) and causing lots of grief. So, I'm inclined to believe she is an Alpha wolf. I don't want to waste lynch votes on pickles if we need to lynch every other wolf in this game first before pickles is 100% dead.

I'm also interested in hearing about others' thoughts about pickles at this time

Also ...

Leaning village on Stagg, Ziggy, Coffee, M935.
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I agree that she is likely alpha, as it would have been a bad move to out herself if she only had a 1x lynch avoidance. However, this is the noob game and there have been plenty of major mistakes so far, so I'm not counting it out. Either way, we need to decide as a village if we are going to take the general veteran advice of "If it doesn't die, kill it twice" or agree that she is likely an alpha and hunt for other wolves first.

ziggyandjazzy said:
I said this previously but it will be good to sum it up again. When I was infected with the microbe, I couldn't talk clearly. I was pretty dang sure grebes was a wolf and I was (am) suspicious of you. I was trying to get this across in my Lynch votes waffling between you and grebes in case I was killed.

After grebes was killed, I switched it to you. Upon further events, pickles and mutts seemed more suspicious to me then you did. So, I switched to pickles and stayed there till she was unsuccessfully lynched.
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Shelter has hard vouched for em. How do you feel about that. Does that change your views on either of them?

MSUcvmHOPE said:
I am but he's not helpful and he just tries to recommend I Lynch random people. Lol

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Is he telling you to keep waffling? If so, him and @PippyPony would get along very well.
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't you have your vote on mutt or someone else towards the end of the day? I thought it was you who asked if we were going for pickles and then switched, whether you started out on pickles or not.
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I stuck with pickles the whole time but I was trying to figure out if we were all going for mutts or for pickles because I didn't want coffee to be lynched.
 
Stagg737 said:
I agree that she is likely alpha, as it would have been a bad move to out herself if she only had a 1x lynch avoidance. However, this is the noob game and there have been plenty of major mistakes so far, so I'm not counting it out. Either way, we need to decide as a village if we are going to take the general veteran advice of "If it doesn't die, kill it twice" or agree that she is likely an alpha and hunt for other wolves first.



Shelter has hard vouched for em. How do you feel about that. Does that change your views on either of them?
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Atm, a couple people have expressed they may be able to kill pickles so for right now I would like to hunt others. I may change my mind though.

The hard vouch makes me trust them both more, though I could be naive.
 
Working on catching up, so from last night:

Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
Hmm, that is suspicious then. But then why did she post that message that seemed pretty obviously trying to tell us that beagle was a friend/villager?
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How can you say it was obvious if you didn't change your vote or say anything about beagle being a villager?

sheltermed said:
It's getting a little too close to lynch close for comfort, so I'm just going to say that I can hard-vouch for emlady. I do not know her affiliation for certain, but I know that she is beneficial to the village and not to the wolves.

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You don't know her affiliation... but you're hard vouching for her...

Stagg737 said:
Pickles is giving a wolf brag since she's been outed as a wolf. Which means either she's dead (most likely). Or she's still alive and for some silly noobish reason decided to out herself. Either way: :corny:



:laugh:
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I'm also wondering why pickle outted herself when she could have tried to play off the lynch avoidance as a villager ability
 
Doctor-S said:
I am inclined to believe pickles is an Alpha wolf right now.

If she was a regular wolf, I would think this morning's write-up would have reported her as having been successfully lynched because she was in the lynch lead at the end of D3. However, pickles has not been reported dead this morning. Instead, she has been listed as alive in the write-up. After the close of D3, she has been chattering and mocking other players (e.g., M935) and causing lots of grief. So, I'm inclined to believe she is an Alpha wolf. I don't want to waste lynch votes on pickles if we need to lynch every other wolf in this game first before pickles is 100% dead.

I'm also interested in hearing about others' thoughts about pickles at this time

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Leaning village on Stagg, Ziggy, Coffee, M935.
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Why do you think she is alpha and not 1x lynch avoidance?

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
This amused me a lot while I was silenced. Thank you.

@Stagg737 you need some Coffee in your life. That's all.

I can explain. TWICE during the game I can use my ability. It is a bit a la little mermaid in that when I use it I lose my voice. I used it yesterday to cure ziggy. The other way it can be used is to restore anything that is lost... or used up.

So I could heal Stagg today (and be silenced again, yuck)

UNFORTUnATELY, I was not thinking to heal ziggy yesterday as there is another way it can be used and I will not be able to do both anymore

If I knew who the vigilante was, I can restore their kill and they can take out pickles.

I will leave it up to you nooblets to decide which you would prefer.
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Why did you choose to heal Ziggy?

muttmanager said:
Right now, ziggy for reasons in previous post.

Also maybe you missed these:
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Have any of your reads changed?

ziggyandjazzy said:
I would like to hear more from @Barkley13, @Dinashadow (when possible), @killerleaf, and @dolphin106258 . If you're a villager, now would be a pretty good time to help us out

Something I have noticed: pickles, grebes, mutts, and dinashadow all voted to Lynch killer the first day
shelter voted to lynch grebes so that is making me feel safer about you
Other people I mentioned didn't vote for grebes or killer
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What do you think about the bolded?

muttmanager said:
Implied may have been a better word and it was Thursday, my mistake.
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However: You lead an emmy lynch (likely village), then transitioned to lead the pickle lynch based on suspicion you bread from similar experience you had. That seems like bussing to me, esp since she survived the lynch. I’m feeling framed right now. I’m not sure you’re a wolf but your play has been inconsistent and sketchy

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Why do you think emmy is likely village?
 
Barkley13 said:
How can you say it was obvious if you didn't change your vote or say anything about beagle being a villager?
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I thought it was pretty obvious what she was trying to say, but that doesn't mean I trusted it.

Edited to add: as I explained already, I knew that one of them would end up being a wolf. I just wasn't sure which.
 
I'm pretty torn on M# because on one hand I feel like he's been so outspoken and sketchy all game it actually makes him seem like a villager because I feel like he would be a little more careful as a wolf but he's also still alive even after saying he had an ability the first day but that could also just be the wolves trying to make him look sketchy so that we'll lynch him
 
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