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NYC Surgery Residencies: Cornell, NYU, Columbia, Mt. Sinai

Discussion in 'Clinical Rotations' started by zb, Jan 9, 2001.

  1. zb


    Hi -

    Any one out there have any thoughts on the relative strengths and weaknesses of these programs?

    Here's what I've gathered:
    Cornell: great experience to be affiliated with Memorial Sloane Kettering, benign program, great name with a powerful chairman

    NYU: lots of independence but bad lifestyle, getting a new chairman, "macho" reputation

    Columbia: more "old school," bad ancillary staff, lots of CT surgery

    Mt Sinai: operate a lot, less academic -- less of a "name factor," great for GI transplant

    Want to compare notes
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  3. MikeS 78

    MikeS 78 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    May 29, 2000
    east coast
    from what I was told while working at Sloane-kettering, cornell/NYH is not affiliated with MSKCC at all, despite the fact that they are across the street

    Columbia is as known for its Neuro surgery as its CT

  4. zb


    Thanks for the input. You're right-- I shouldn't have used the word "affiliated" -- I just meant the fact that the Cornell residents operate there 4th and 5th years is great experience.

  5. turtleboard

    turtleboard SDN Advisor 10+ Year Member

    Jun 3, 1999
    New York, New York
    Are those the only university programs in NYC that are worth mentioning? Just curious as I'm looking into general surgery residencies too (but of course I'm just a second-year).

    There are other university programs in the city, but perhaps they're not really all that prominent: Einstein/Montefiore and SUNY Downstate/Kings County Hospital.

    I wouldn't be surprised if most people wouldn't consider these two on their list of NYC surgical residencies worth getting, but I just wanted to get more opinions on other programs in the city. What about community programs like St. Luke's-Roosevelt? St. Vincent's? Lenox Hill? Would you take a position at any of these places over a position at SUNY or Einstein?


    Tim W. of N.Y.C.

    [This message has been edited by turtleboard (edited 01-17-2001).]
  6. zb


    Hi -

    No, they aren't the only ones worth mentioning, its just that those are the ones I hear about most often.

    I don't know much about Einstein or SUNY/Downstate except that I was told not to apply to SUNY/Downstate (I was told it wasn't too good).

    The rap on community programs (St. Luke's etc.) is that you should aim for them if what you plan on doing is community surgery. I.e., if you want to be an old-time general surgeon who takes care of bread and butter stuff (e.g., hernias) you should aim for programs more like that. But if you're looking to be in a tertiary care center doing specialized surgery and you want do some type of fellowship after residency, it is better to aim for a university based program.

    Hope this helps a little.
  7. thyroidectomy

    thyroidectomy 5+ Year Member

    May 19, 2009
    Interested in updated opinions on the NYC programs. Where do they (NYU, Cornell, Sinai, Columbia, Einstein) stand amongst each other and nationally?
  8. VisionaryTics

    VisionaryTics SeƱor Member 7+ Year Member

    Jan 13, 2009
    Thirteen years, bro. This thread is thirteen years old.
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  9. thyroidectomy

    thyroidectomy 5+ Year Member

    May 19, 2009
    I agree, which is why I'm asking for "updated opinions." Reasonable, no?
  10. Winged Scapula

    Winged Scapula Cougariffic! Staff Member Administrator Physician Faculty Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 15+ Year Member

    Apr 9, 2000
    hSDN Member
    No. You've already asked the same question in the Surgery forum. You received no answers either because there is no answer or because most residents aren't as obsessed with ranking as premeds and med students seem to be.

    Interestingly, in 13 years since this was last posted user turtleboard has graduated from medical school, completed a general surgery residency in New York City, a vascular fellowship, has had a couple of children, and spent several years in practice. Time flies!
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  11. Metzenbaum7


    Dec 15, 2013
    I do not care about "ranking" but I do have question: is Mt. Sinai the non-community NYC program most likely to let you go straight through in 5 clinical years? I am an MS3, applying gen surg next year, and I have a strong preference to not do mandatory or nearly mandatory dedicated lab years (like my home institution, unfortunately). I would really like to be in the City, and it seems like Mt. Sinai is academic enough for my taste but not ridiculously academic like here at home. I can only tell a little bit from their FREIDA page (they just returned basic info) and residency website. Any current wisdom about Mt. Sinai gen surg would be amazing. Perhaps they have a bit more of a northeast regional draw, as I can usually find med alum to email and not bother with begging SDN for inside info.

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