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I have a similar app but I didn't get all third year honors, and instead received even mix of high pass/honors. I have a pub pending and can't be sure if it will go or not.
I don't believe that guy is trolling. I'm not either. I'm curious if anyone has any insight into the matter? I'm specifically wondering about programs like Hopkins Uni (Osler not Bayview), USCF, Mass Gen?
I'm personally not dead set on such programs but I can't help but feel obligated to try. Some info might help my anxiety levels, or it could make them worse, but I still would like to hear any opinions.
hey guys, i'm from a top 50 US med school, step 1 score of 207, avg to slightly below avg grade in shelf exams, solid evaluations.
here is my list so far (trying to stay in the north-east):
please add comments/programs as you wish;
hey guys, i'm from a top 50 US med school, step 1 score of 207, avg to slightly below avg grade in shelf exams, solid evaluations.
here is my list so far (trying to stay in the north-east):
please add comments/programs as you wish; so far, i only have 17 programs, but i think i'm gonna have to apply to at least 30+ programs.
here goes the list:
john hopkins babview
univ. of maryland
wakeforest north carolina
carolinas medical center
george washington
washington hospital center
georgetown
temple
thomas jefferson
hahnemann univ. hospital
vcu
uva
evms
univ. of alabama
tufts
mount auburn hospital
lahey clinic
christiana care health system
thanks a lot for your time
I'm a MS-IV from a mid-tier medical school and I'm just wondering how important research is to some of the top IM programs (like the top 20ish). I'm junior AOA, >260 on Step 1, and got Hs in all my clerkships, but I only have a few posters/presentations to my name. I had seriously bad luck with a summer research project, which ended without a pub, but my PI is writing a LOR for me.
I will **hopefully** be finishing up a clinical research project this summer and have something submitted in time for fall, but with my luck and things moving at research pace I'm feeling a little discouraged.
I know these "what are my chances" threads are irritating, but I would really appreciate any advice from people who have recently matched in IM could give me!
Thanks for the advice instate. One of the things I've had a hard time gauging from the PD at my home institution and other various mentors etc is how competitive I really am as an applicant. Sometimes its hard to get good advice about where you stand and what different programs are like, so any other opinions/advice would be greatly appreciated!
I recently matched to an IM but had to withdraw due to personal and family reasons that I felt it was important to take care of before starting a difficult year.
I realize that's not very specific, but my withdrawal was mutually-agreed upon and, from what I understand, would not constitute an NRMP violation (although I could be wrong here).
I am hoping to reapply for a PGY-1 position in IM this upcoming ERAS cycle. I realize my chances are significantly decreased at this point, but I was planning on doing the following:
1) applying to smaller community programs
2) applying to programs that I interviewed at last year but ranked lower on my match list.
Is this a fairly safe strategy?
In the meantime, I'm hoping to find either a research position or a job at a clinic. I also plan on studying and taking Step 3 in one of the states that doesn't require any PGY experience to take it.
Has anyone had a similar experience or even know what my chances might be at this point of ever matching again?
ANY input or advice would be much appreciated. Pretty desperate here for any help at all at this point. Thanks
I think UAB, UVA, Bayview and Maryland are your far reach schools. I think, unless you rock step 2, they are probably not going to offer you an interview. Many of the people I met at UAB and Bayview were also interviewing places like Duke, MGH, the main Hopkins so the competition for these places is pretty fierce.
Tufts, Wakeforrest may also be diffficult.
The rest you have a good shot at if you do well on step 2. I would still put Jeff, Temple, VCU, EVMS, Carolinas +/- the DC programs all above average IM programs. The average board scores are 222 for IM so you are going to need solid letters and a solid step 2 score to get interviews and have a high likelihood of matching one of those programs.
Agree- would study hard for Step 2.
There are research articles showing that Step 2 correlates more with residency success (versus Step 1), and these program directors all read the same research articles...LOL.
I am starting MS4.
My stats:
235/99
Top 25% but no AOA
UTSW
Honors Medicine and Honors everything else except High Pass in OB/GYN, Neuro, and Family.
2 co-author pubs (1 from college, 1 from med school)
Great Letters.
What are my chances at:
Thanks KRichards, your insight is much appreciated.
Does anyone else have an opinion?
Does anyone also think I will most likely match at the Mich, Duke, Stanford, Vandy level? Or do you think I will most likely match somewhere even less competitive?
For those that commented, when people are saying you need to do much better on Step 2 to open more doors, what type of a score are you referring to? Are you saying around a 230 (which I think is average-ish) or does one need to score above average to compensate like a 240+. I would like to know since I am in a similar situation (got a 210 on Step 1 and am considering IM or Peds), but I'm sure the OP would like to know as well. Thanks
With a score like that, I don't think you have much of a chance for IM. I'm sorry.
Just kidding. I think you're set for IM wherever you choose... If you really want to go to a particular place, set up an elective rotation there during your fourth year, and get solid letters of rec. SGU is a pretty well-respected Caribbean school. Your USMLE is solid. Nobody really cares about GPA that much unless you fail a class or have a red flag.
I am a non-US IMG (I was born and raised in Toronto, Canada) from SGU.
I recently scored 233/99 on the USMLE Step 1.
My Basic Sciences GPA is around a 3. Mostly B's, some A's (~3), and some C's (~2).
I'm about to start clinical rotations in the US in August.
What can I do to improve my chances of matching in an IM program that has the potential to lead to a subspeciality? I'm planning on applying to many IM programs and even FM programs as a back up.
Thanks a lot!
I've mentioned this to other carib grads with number similar to yours. Essentially apply to every university program that has the fellowship you desire. You never know who will bite and the cost of applying is relatively cheap. Try to set up some aways at well known places to get LORs from writers who have some weight on them (i.e. full professors, chairmans, etc).
I just wanted to know if I am capable of getting in to these higher end schools.
I would agree you have a chance. The other piece of info I would want to know is what medical school you attend...
Doesn't matter with those stats. 230+ and Junior AOA? As long as you don't bomb your IM rotation, you're golden.
Don't get me wrong - the OP has a great chance, but 230+ and junior AOA does not mean you're "golden" for MGH and UCSF...
For what it's worth (I recognize anecdotal stories don't count for a lot in medicine), I know someone with 260+ on both steps, good letters, and junior AOA who didn't get an interview at MGH. I think being from an average school is what held them back..that's why I asked the question.
It's a crap shoot.
Exactly.
Which is why the med school doesn't matter.
That and the fact that for what it would cost to attend a single interview across the country on short (>4 weeks) notice, the OP can apply to virtually every middle and top tier Univ program in the country. So obsessing over this is a pointless waste of time.
Which is why the med school doesn't matter.
That and the fact that for what it would cost to attend a single interview across the country on short (>4 weeks) notice, the OP can apply to virtually every middle and top tier Univ program in the country. So obsessing over this is a pointless waste of time.