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Most likely GI vs Allergy - Would like to have more opportunities outside of institution and not have to gun for one alloted in house spot

1-2 Kaiser LA vs Loma Linda
3- Scripps Mercy
4- USC (didn't like the vibe - felt so out of place)
5- Huntington Memorial
6- Banner Good Sam
7- Legacy Emanuel
8- UCSF Fresno
9-14 im ok with .. just need help with top half! thanks!!
USC
Loma Linda
UCSF Fresno
Whatever...

You're gunning for the 2 most competitive sub-specialties. Huntington Memorial (or most of the rest of the places on your list...I just picked that one at random) aren't really going to help you out there.

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DO student with interest in cards. I have most of my rank list complete but need a little help/opinions on ranking the following group: all have cards programs and seems like they take their own, UF-Jax has 3 DOs in their fellowship I'm not sure about the others. Location is not a big deal
CWRU-MetroHealth
UF-Jacksonville
CCF- Florida
Houston Methodist
 

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I'm a bit stuck with the middle of my list. I want to do Hem/Onc. Can I get opinions on how these programs rank, particularly for preparing residents for Hem/Onc?

CCF, Loma Linda, University of Cincinnati

Thank you!
 
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I have the bottom of my rank list figured out, but I keep changing my mind about the order of the top 3, and I'm even more undecided about #4-9. I'm interested in heme/onc or allergy/immunology. The current order of #4-9 is mostly based on location preference and "gut feeling" based on interview day. I think the #4-9 programs are in the same "tier" when it comes to their overall academic reputation/type of training they offer, but I'm not sure. I'm a bit concerned about the reputation of Einstein for having overworked and unhappy residents, though I didn't get a strong sense of that on interview day. Any advice would be appreciated!

1. NYU
2. UVA
3. Mayo

4. UC Davis
5. Albert Einstein (Montefiore)
6. Dartmouth
7. University of Arizona
8. University of Utah
9. University of Iowa
 

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I have the bottom of my rank list figured out, but I keep changing my mind about the order of the top 3, and I'm even more undecided about #4-9. I'm interested in heme/onc or allergy/immunology. The current order of #4-9 is mostly based on location preference and "gut feeling" based on interview day. I think the #4-9 programs are in the same "tier" when it comes to their overall academic reputation/type of training they offer, but I'm not sure. I'm a bit concerned about the reputation of Einstein for having overworked and unhappy residents, though I didn't get a strong sense of that on interview day. Any advice would be appreciated!

1. NYU
2. UVA
3. Mayo

4. UC Davis
5. Albert Einstein (Montefiore)
6. Dartmouth
7. University of Arizona
8. University of Utah
9. University of Iowa
Utah is as good or better than the programs in your top 3.
 

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First time poster looking for some last minute advice. I'm having trouble finalizing my rank list. Ultimately, I'm looking for the program that offers the best/well-rounded IM training. That being said I am considering GI, and would also like a program that has the "name/reputation" and research opportunities to keep that door open if I decide to pursue it. Location doesn't matter. Any input would be much appreciated.

VCU
Univ of Florida
Univ of Cincinnati
George Washington
MUSC
Temple
Univ at Buffalo
USF
WVU
 

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Hi first time poster, IMG need help ranking advice. In the long term, I'm looking to get into GI/Nephro. I was wondering what you would pick between an academically minded community program with strong ties to "mother ship" to the extent that the diploma is issued by the main hospital, as are your letters at the end of residency versus a university based program with a less prominent name than the aforesaid mothership.
 

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interested in pulm/cc.
Could someone help me with:

Jacobi
Lenox Hill
Drexel

I loved the program director at Jacobi and its a city hospital (good pathology) with residents that seemed happy.
Lenox Hill, better location, also liked what the PD was doing. Private attendings though.
Drexel, philly seems like a great city and drexels in a great location, but residents seemed exhausted and overworked in an old run down hospital. but then, its a true university program.

all 3 seem like they have comparable match lists.
 

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Hi first time poster, IMG need help ranking advice. In the long term, I'm looking to get into GI/Nephro. I was wondering what you would pick between an academically minded community program with strong ties to "mother ship" to the extent that the diploma is issued by the main hospital, as are your letters at the end of residency versus a university based program with a less prominent name than the aforesaid mothership.
If you were less vague about your question we could probably answer better.
 

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First time poster looking for some last minute advice. I'm having trouble finalizing my rank list. Ultimately, I'm looking for the program that offers the best/well-rounded IM training. That being said I am considering GI, and would also like a program that has the "name/reputation" and research opportunities to keep that door open if I decide to pursue it. Location doesn't matter. Any input would be much appreciated.

VCU
Univ of Florida
Univ of Cincinnati
George Washington
MUSC
Temple
Univ at Buffalo
USF
WVU
Your list is pretty good as it is.
 

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interested in pulm/cc.
Could someone help me with:

Jacobi
Lenox Hill
Drexel

I loved the program director at Jacobi and its a city hospital (good pathology) with residents that seemed happy.
Lenox Hill, better location, also liked what the PD was doing. Private attendings though.
Drexel, philly seems like a great city and drexels in a great location, but residents seemed exhausted and overworked in an old run down hospital. but then, its a true university program.

all 3 seem like they have comparable match lists.
I like that order.
 

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Hi all, I start to freak out when it's about 2 days before ranking.
Need help and opinion about my top choice between University of Minnesota and University of Florida.
I know that the location and weather are distinctly different but what I weigh more are the quality of training and better opportunity for GI fellowship.

Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks a lot.
 

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Hi all, I start to freak out when it's about 2 days before ranking.
Need help and opinion about my top choice between University of Minnesota and University of Florida.
I know that the location and weather are distinctly different but what I weigh more are the quality of training and better opportunity for GI fellowship.

Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks a lot.
UMinn. No question.
 
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Hi all, I start to freak out when it's about 2 days before ranking.
Need help and opinion about my top choice between University of Minnesota and University of Florida.
I know that the location and weather are distinctly different but what I weigh more are the quality of training and better opportunity for GI fellowship.

Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks a lot.

I would vote UF > UMN
 

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Re-ordered my rank list a bit in the last few days (hours) lol
-list based on fellowships/location (around NYC)

Having trouble with the order of my 4,5,6 especially... thank you guys!
Aiming for GI / Pulm Crit / Allergy

1 Beth Israel NYC
2 Lenox Hill
3 St Lukes Roosevelt
4 SUNY Downstate
5 Drexel
6 Newark Beth Israel
7 New York Hosp Queens
8 Albert Einstein Philly
9. Lankenau
10 Albany Med Center
11 Seton Hall
12 Staten Island
13 U Conn (Primary Care)
14 Morristown
14 Lehigh Valley
15 Nassau Univ. Med Center
 

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reordered my rank list a bit and I think everything is set but 2-5 I feel like I could flip a coin sometimes, and I doubt ill match at my number one so i think this is likely where ill fall. Barring location, are all these schools basically the same reputation wise and going to end up giving me roughly the same opportunity for fellowship (heme/onc?). location is important but its quality of training that im unsure of how these schools really compare.

2. UT san antonio
3. UIC
4. Univ utah
5. UT houston
 

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Hey guys, so I'm working on my rank list, and I'm having a very difficult time deciding between these two programs. As far as clinical training, research, location, people I interacted with, they're pretty even. I want to match in GI and both seem to do a good job with that. Any suggestions/opinions on these programs?

You may get an answer faster if you post this in the help me rank thread in the main forum

Anyway, I liked both places too and am thinking about fellowship as well
-I think clinical training is pretty equal at the two, probably a more diverse population at Uminn. I've heard you also get great GI exposure (bleeds, liver failure) at Uminn on general medicine teams. Both have great VAs it seems (imo better that it's attached in Madison). You get more time at the private hospital at Uminn. One difference is that I feel like things are more front-loaded at Uminn with the 1 intern-1 resident system (i.e. you carry more patients as an intern)
-UW might have better research opportunities and probably has a more nationally recognized reputation, for what that's worth in applying to fellowship. I got the feeling that at both places your best opportunity to match for fellowship (especially competitive ones) was internally, and they like to take their own.
-The locations are similar, but Minneapolis is noticeably colder and more of a "big city" whereas Madison is a college town
-I thought the people at both places were great too

Overall, I think both are good places and can get you into fellowship so the decision is probably based more on location than anything. UW maybe can take you more places with a slightly better reputation, but honestly I don't really know what I'm talking about when I say that as a fellow applicant

What are your thoughts?
 
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reordered my rank list a bit and I think everything is set but 2-5 I feel like I could flip a coin sometimes, and I doubt ill match at my number one so i think this is likely where ill fall. Barring location, are all these schools basically the same reputation wise and going to end up giving me roughly the same opportunity for fellowship (heme/onc?). location is important but its quality of training that im unsure of how these schools really compare.

2. UT san antonio
3. UIC
4. Univ utah
5. UT houston
Utah
UIC
Houston
UTSA
 

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Utah
UIC
Houston
UTSA
Thanks gutonc! I know utah at least based on what some at my school have told me is the best program of this list (though im not sure by how much), but between UIC, houston, and san antonio would you say there is a significant difference between those 3?
 

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Most likely GI vs Allergy - Would like to have more opportunities outside of institution and not have to gun for one alloted in house spot

1-2 Kaiser LA vs Loma Linda
3- Scripps Mercy
4- USC (didn't like the vibe - felt so out of place)
5- Huntington Memorial
6- Banner Good Sam
7- Legacy Emanuel
8- UCSF Fresno
9-14 im ok with .. just need help with top half! thanks!!

If you didn't like USC, then the list should be fine. I like LLU over Kaiser.
 

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Hi all, I start to freak out when it's about 2 days before ranking.
Need help and opinion about my top choice between University of Minnesota and University of Florida.
I know that the location and weather are distinctly different but what I weigh more are the quality of training and better opportunity for GI fellowship.

Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks a lot.

U Minn
 

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I know it's getting close but I'm having a hard time ranking because I didn't do aways and I don't feel like I know enough about what the day to day looks like at any of these programs. Interested in academic GIM, enjoy inpatient more than outpatient

UCSF (applied to all 3 tracks)
1. want to know whether residents hang out outside of work or not since I'm single, new to the city, and want to go to a place where people are friends outside of work too
2. What's it like with no block schedule for ambulatory and the hospitals being far away? Will it move to 4+1 during my time?
3. do you feel lost in the categorical track bc the class is so large? Is there enough mentorship? Is everyone a rock star, and if you're not will you get left behind? I did well in med school because I'm good with patients and I work hard but I never felt like one of the smart kids
4. how bad is the scut/paper charting at SFGH and are there plans to upgrade the emr?
5. If anyone applied all 3 tracks as well, would love to hear your thoughts on the different tracks

UW
1, 2 and 3 as above
4. Appreciated how the PD was upfront about how this is a public program and not everything is covered, but what does this entail exactly (exams? food?) and how big of a hassle is it?

Cornell
Really wish I had done a rotation here so I could gauge the degree of "NYC scut" and how bad it is but since I can't, are there any west coasters who can speak to their experiences? NYC is by far my most preferred place to live (lots of friends, have lived here before) but is it worth dealing with the unions and ancillary staff? And exactly what type of scut work will I be doing? Can you give an example of a typical wards day? I'm not opposed to working hard but I want to know what I'm signing up for.

Thanks in advance for the input!
 

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All other factors aside, does anyone have any clue how U Mass and U Cincinnati compare with respect to program quality/ reputation? Thanks in advance.
 

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Hi there,
Have made my top list but still confused about my lower/middle programs.
I am an IMG, the reason why programs are not great as rest of the forum. But would love to hear someone's opinion on it.

My list as follows in decreasing order of preference.

Vidant/East Carolina Univ(greenville,NC)
Allegheny West Penn-Pittsburgh
Marshall Univ Huntington WV

Interested in fellowships, HemOnc or maybe Gastro.....
Location is not a preference for me.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Best of luck to everybody for the match!

'May the force be with us'
 

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I'm couples matching so ranks 15-20 are important. Interested in heme/onc or pulm/cc and looking to stay in one location for 6+ years. Have no regional bias but would prefer a big city with lots of food options/diversity. Realize that none of these will really have that so program quality is more likely a driver. Here's how I ranked them at the moment:

1. Utah
2. Baylor
3. Ohio State
4. UNC
5. Wisconsin

Also, would I be crazy to rank USC above Case, program-wise? Just asking because location is driving that particular pair.
 

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Long time lurker under old username, made a new one for anonymity.

I'm couples matching so ranks 15-20 are important. Interested in heme/onc or pulm/cc and looking to stay in one location for 6+ years. Have no regional bias but would prefer a big city with lots of food options/diversity. Realize that none of these will really have that so program quality is more likely a driver. Here's how I ranked them at the moment:

1. Utah
2. Baylor
3. Ohio State
4. UNC
5. Wisconsin

Also, would I be crazy to rank USC above Case, program-wise? Just asking because location is driving that particular pair.

I don't think USC above Case is some kind of crime
 

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Having a hard time ranking. Interested in pursuing GI fellowship. prefer to stay on west coast if i can help it.
I have it in this order:

1. USC
2. UC Irvine
3. U of Colorado Denver
4. Loma Linda U
5. UVA

UT San Antonio
Texas AM
U Wisconsin

U nebraska
U New Mexico

Any tips/ advice? esp for the top 5?
 

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Having a hard time ranking. Interested in pursuing GI fellowship. prefer to stay on west coast if i can help it.
I have it in this order:

1. USC
2. UC Irvine
3. U of Colorado Denver
4. Loma Linda U
5. UVA

UT San Antonio
Texas AM
U Wisconsin

U nebraska
U New Mexico

Any tips/ advice? esp for the top 5?

i know you wanna be on the west coast...but UVA should be higher...unless you are super serious about seriously staying on the west coast.
 

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Having a hard time ranking. Interested in pursuing GI fellowship. prefer to stay on west coast if i can help it.
I have it in this order:

1. USC
2. UC Irvine
3. U of Colorado Denver
4. Loma Linda U
5. UVA

UT San Antonio
Texas AM
U Wisconsin

U nebraska
U New Mexico

Any tips/ advice? esp for the top 5?

I think it's fine
 

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Having a hard time ranking. Interested in pursuing GI fellowship. prefer to stay on west coast if i can help it.
I have it in this order:

1. USC
2. UC Irvine
3. U of Colorado Denver
4. Loma Linda U
5. UVA

UT San Antonio
Texas AM
U Wisconsin

U nebraska
U New Mexico

Any tips/ advice? esp for the top 5?

I agree with jturkel that UVA should be higher, maybe even number one, especially since you are interested in GI. I don't think UC irvine will get you GI unless you plan to do a chief year.
 

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thanks for the input so far. can anybody tell me how many matched into GI from UVA this year? was it 8/8? or 4/4? I dont remember.
 

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Having a hard time ranking. Interested in pursuing GI fellowship. prefer to stay on west coast if i can help it.
I have it in this order:

1. USC
2. UC Irvine
3. U of Colorado Denver
4. Loma Linda U
5. UVA

UT San Antonio
Texas AM
U Wisconsin

U nebraska
U New Mexico

Any tips/ advice? esp for the top 5?

UVA
UCDenver
USC
UWisco
UCI

How's that? Oh, and I didn't take into account your west coast bias, obviously.
 

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I know it's getting close but I'm having a hard time ranking because I didn't do aways and I don't feel like I know enough about what the day to day looks like at any of these programs. Interested in academic GIM, enjoy inpatient more than outpatient

UCSF (applied to all 3 tracks)
1. want to know whether residents hang out outside of work or not since I'm single, new to the city, and want to go to a place where people are friends outside of work too
2. What's it like with no block schedule for ambulatory and the hospitals being far away? Will it move to 4+1 during my time?
3. do you feel lost in the categorical track bc the class is so large? Is there enough mentorship? Is everyone a rock star, and if you're not will you get left behind? I did well in med school because I'm good with patients and I work hard but I never felt like one of the smart kids
4. how bad is the scut/paper charting at SFGH and are there plans to upgrade the emr?
5. If anyone applied all 3 tracks as well, would love to hear your thoughts on the different tracks

UW
1, 2 and 3 as above
4. Appreciated how the PD was upfront about how this is a public program and not everything is covered, but what does this entail exactly (exams? food?) and how big of a hassle is it?

Cornell
Really wish I had done a rotation here so I could gauge the degree of "NYC scut" and how bad it is but since I can't, are there any west coasters who can speak to their experiences? NYC is by far my most preferred place to live (lots of friends, have lived here before) but is it worth dealing with the unions and ancillary staff? And exactly what type of scut work will I be doing? Can you give an example of a typical wards day? I'm not opposed to working hard but I want to know what I'm signing up for.

Thanks in advance for the input!

Splitting hairs, seriously.

UCSF
2. doesn't matter.
3. doesn't matter, you'll find it. you're going to be with smart people, regardless, given your residency choices.
4. doesn't matter, you deal with it.

UW
see above
4. doesn't matter, you deal with it.

Cornell
UW and UCSF should above this program, especially if GIM is your goal.
You should've asked these questions on interview day. I am sure the typical day on wards is like any other program. Pre round. Round. Consults/discharges/Orders. Notes. Conference. Notes.
Scut work, at worst, will be patient transport, stat lab draws, blood culture draws... and then serious attitude.
 

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So, I'm trying to decide whether to put UNC vs. UTSW at #4 on my list. I've got Vanderbilt, UVA, and Wash U at #'s 1, 2, and 3. I'm thinking possibly general medicine vs. Pulm/CC vs GI as future plans maybe in academics. I would love to go with my gut on this one but I really loved both programs on interview day. Does either one really set me up particularly well in Pulm/CC or GI vs the other? Is this basically a coin toss decision? I know UNC is supposed to be great for General Medicine. I really like the +1 schedule of UTSW as well. Any thoughts? Thanks for all of the advice.
 

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Hi - I could really use some input on a few things..

I have been most interested in USC & UC Irvine, but am having a few concerns that I was hoping someone could comment on. I know that USC pays a much lower PGY1 salary than most programs, which I worry about especially considering the cost of living in LA and given how demanding the residency seems in LA county hospital. I enjoyed my interview day at USC very much, and residents were friendly, knowledgable, and seemed genuinely happy to have been exposed to a wide array of pathology. Any comments on this, and the program in general?

I also was impressed by my interview day at UC Irvine. To me, it seems like a solid program that has really developed through the years. Residents also have a salary on par with most programs, and insurance is fully paid by the institution which is not always the case. I'm confused why everyone on the forums always seems to put UCI down. I do wish that this was not in such a conservative area - if anyone from LA area can comment on this, I would also appreciate that.

Finally, impressions on USC vs UCI vs Georgetown vs Jefferson vs Loyola? I may want to persue cards or GI, but am not entirely sure at this point.

Thank you for any comments.
 

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Having a hard time ranking. Interested in pursuing GI fellowship. prefer to stay on west coast if i can help it.
I have it in this order:

1. USC
2. UC Irvine
3. U of Colorado Denver
4. Loma Linda U
5. UVA

UT San Antonio
Texas AM
U Wisconsin

U nebraska
U New Mexico

Any tips/ advice? esp for the top 5?

USC #1 is fine imo, but I'd personally take UCI and LLU out of the top 5.
 

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I have trouble with #5-7.
I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following: my goal is to eventually settle in the West for fellowship (cards or pulm/cc). I have it in this order currently.
#5: OHSU - great PD, gorgeous hospital. Don't know about fellowship placement outside of OHSU and I'm ethnic and Portland is known for being white? (does this even matter?)
#6: USC - probably the worst fellowship match of all three...but the residents seem the most relaxed and chill. LA Ethnic food is amazing.
#7: Pitt - the most prestigious and nicest hospital, but residents seem mostly married and I'm still hesitant on pittsburgh.
 

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I have trouble with #5-7.
I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following: my goal is to eventually settle in the West for fellowship (cards or pulm/cc). I have it in this order currently.
#5: OHSU - great PD, gorgeous hospital. Don't know about fellowship placement outside of OHSU and I'm ethnic and Portland is known for being white? (does this even matter?)
#6: USC - probably the worst fellowship match of all three...but the residents seem the most relaxed and chill. LA Ethnic food is amazing.
#7: Pitt - the most prestigious and nicest hospital, but residents seem mostly married and I'm still hesitant on pittsburgh.

fine the way they are. you likely won't get to 5.

Hi - I could really use some input on a few things..

I have been most interested in USC & UC Irvine, but am having a few concerns that I was hoping someone could comment on. I know that USC pays a much lower PGY1 salary than most programs, which I worry about especially considering the cost of living in LA and given how demanding the residency seems in LA county hospital. I enjoyed my interview day at USC very much, and residents were friendly, knowledgable, and seemed genuinely happy to have been exposed to a wide array of pathology. Any comments on this, and the program in general?

I also was impressed by my interview day at UC Irvine. To me, it seems like a solid program that has really developed through the years. Residents also have a salary on par with most programs, and insurance is fully paid by the institution which is not always the case. I'm confused why everyone on the forums always seems to put UCI down. I do wish that this was not in such a conservative area - if anyone from LA area can comment on this, I would also appreciate that.

Finally, impressions on USC vs UCI vs Georgetown vs Jefferson vs Loyola? I may want to persue cards or GI, but am not entirely sure at this point.

Thank you for any comments.

I think Jeff, Georgetown, and USC are roughly all around the same. Jeff and Georgetown maybe getting the edge.
Loyola, don't know much about.
UCI.......... it gets the bag here because of well.... mainly a lot of perceptions about the strength of training and strength of its residents.
 

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would ranking Lenox Hill above NSLIJ or NJMS be an awful decision? considering hospitalist in the future, and significant other will be working in Manhattan.
 

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fine the way they are. you likely won't get to 5.



I think Jeff, Georgetown, and USC are roughly all around the same. Jeff and Georgetown maybe getting the edge.
Loyola, don't know much about.
UCI.......... it gets the bag here because of well.... mainly a lot of perceptions about the strength of training and strength of its residents.

Thank you - can you comment on the salary at USC? If it was not so low compared to other programs I would not hesitate ranking it highly. Also, I how conservative is Orange? Would it be managable to live between Orange and LA as a resident at UCI?
 

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Could someone help me with number 3 on my list? I'm debating between Cornell and Penn, want to do heme/onc eventually. I'm in NY now and the thought of staying in NY for residency is really nice. On the other hand, I really liked Penn when I interviewed (probably a bit more than Cornell).
 

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can anybody tell me how many matched into GI from UVA this year? was it 8/8? or 4/4? I dont remember.
I'm not sure how many applied, but I believe 10 people matched into GI this year.
 

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Splitting hairs, seriously.

UCSF
2. doesn't matter.
3. doesn't matter, you'll find it. you're going to be with smart people, regardless, given your residency choices.
4. doesn't matter, you deal with it.
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LOL I was literally thinking the exact same thing. Its UCSF dude, those facors are irrelevant
 

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Thank you - can you comment on the salary at USC? If it was not so low compared to other programs I would not hesitate ranking it highly. Also, I how conservative is Orange? Would it be managable to live between Orange and LA as a resident at UCI?

Salary is low at USC is just the hard fact. Its also a huge program. Not sure what else can be said about the salary.

Regarding UCI, you definitely can live in between the two areas. Remember UCI also rotates at Long Beach VA I believe, so you can live there too. I don't think where you can live should influence where you rank UCI, but more their dismal fellowship match and general perception regarding their program strength as mentioned above.
 

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Thank you - can you comment on the salary at USC? If it was not so low compared to other programs I would not hesitate ranking it highly. Also, I how conservative is Orange? Would it be managable to live between Orange and LA as a resident at UCI?

Yes, USC pays low. But somehow, all of their residents manage?
You budget accordingly. You live within your means.

How conservative is Orange? Like... politically and culturally? This is southern california, not the southern united states. This will minimally affect you.
Living between Orange and LA? Traffic sucks. You'll like want to live somewhere near the hospitals (ie Long Beach VA and UCI Medical Center)
 

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Thank you - can you comment on the salary at USC? If it was not so low compared to other programs I would not hesitate ranking it highly. Also, I how conservative is Orange? Would it be managable to live between Orange and LA as a resident at UCI?
as someone who lived there its not conservative were not talking deep south or something. Its similar to many nice places in socal other then maybe a little pretentious as irvine is a pretty rich area although orange less so. not feasible to make that drive everyday too much traffic or youd have to wake up and leave at like 5am to miss traffic coming into irvine from la...
 

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Having a hard time ranking. Interested in pursuing GI fellowship. prefer to stay on west coast if i can help it.
I have it in this order:

1. USC
2. UC Irvine
3. U of Colorado Denver
4. Loma Linda U
5. UVA

UT San Antonio
Texas AM
U Wisconsin

U nebraska
U New Mexico

Any tips/ advice? esp for the top 5?

taking into account your desire to stay in cali and I understand that sentiment
1) usc
2) UWis = UVA =Denver

If it were my list I'd rank Uwis as #1. I have been told countless times to choose the place where I fit in best as it is your performance that dictates your success ... especially if the programs are relatively close to each other in standings. from what you have written it seems like USC is a clear #1. They had a good number of people match into GI this yr. UCI/LLU though will probably make it much harder for you to match (didnt interview there, but hearsy)

I do remember UVA PD mentioning either 8 or 10 matching this yr.
 

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If you were less vague about your question we could probably answer better.
Sorry about that. To break it down - UPMC Shadyside vs University of Kentucky. Again, I'm potentially interested in GI, regarding nephro, I know it doesn't make much of a difference as it's a buyer's market at this point. Thanks for your advice in advance!
 
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