Official: Boston University M.A. in Medical Sciences Fall 2004

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Hello All,

I have been browsing through the previous boston threads and its hard sifting through pages and pages to find people attending this fall.

To all those future Bostonians, I thought it'd be nice to try and get to know one another before starting in a couple of months.

A little about myself: I just graduated from UC Berkeley, majored in Molecular and Cell Biology, and didnt do too hot (hence the BU masters program). I have heard great things about the program, seems like it has a great success rate for medical school. I have also heard great things about Boston itself, but I have never been there. Soo, I am going to be new to Boston, and have no idea what to expect. Hopefully someone out there can give me a heads up on the scene there, the nightlife, housing information, and anything and everything else! 🙂

Anyone out there thats going to attend the BU program for 2004, please join the thread!! Look forward to meeting all of you soon

PKPK
 
I'm still on hold/waitlist at BU. 🙁
 
I too will be a future Bostonian this fall. 👍 I've been out of school for a year now so I am psyched to get started, especially in a new city. I talked to my friend who went there as an undergrad and she said she loved the school. Her only complaint was the inaccessibility of the faculty, since they all did research and were really busy--don't know if this is true of the medical/graduate school.

When are you planning to head over to Bean Town? I have been trying to look for housing, but anything close to the medical campus seems so expensive ($1300 and up). I guess I will have to get a roommate.

PKPK
What classes are you taking? I was thinking biochemistry, histology, and pharmacology as suggested in the "sample curriculum". Are you applying to med school this year or next, I am still debating if I should wait for a years' worth of grades before applying.

Spartacus
Don't worry too much about it, I was on waitlist as well. I got in last week. I am assuming you applied late 😉 like I did. Call the 1-800 number and talk to Natasha(?) she told me that a lot of people applied this year but they take a lot of people from the waitlist because many drop out as they are accepted into medical school or other programs.
You should apply to UMDNJ, they have a very good program as well, I was accepted right away. You still have time since their deadline is not until July1.
 
Hey Guys...I'll be attending in September too. I live 45 minutes outside of Boston, and am currently looking for housing as well.
 
I'll be in the program too. Still haven't gotten my registration materials, so I'm not sure when school is starting or what classes to take.
I'll be moving from San Francisco.
 
yo guys,

I'm new to SDN...I just decided I'll be attending BU in Sept, too. I looked on Craig's List, and there seem to be some pretty nice apts available right around the medical center. let me know if you're interested in investigating with me.
 
yeah, neither have i.. they don't seem to be too organized with that. we should get people to jot down the important stuff here (i.e. when classes start, what the schedule looks like)
have you made your $200 deposit yet?

ygreenst said:
I'll be in the program too. Still haven't gotten my registration materials, so I'm not sure when school is starting or what classes to take.
I'll be moving from San Francisco.
 
the truth said:
yo guys,

I'm new to SDN...I just decided I'll be attending BU in Sept, too. I looked on Craig's List, and there seem to be some pretty nice apts available right around the medical center. let me know if you're interested in investigating with me.

Hey truth,

What places did you find around the med center? I've looked on cragslist also, but I don't know the area very well. Were they pretty nice for a decent rent? It seems that the places a little farther away are significantly cheaper, but I guess that's to be expected.
 
Hey guys-
You should look for places in the South End. It's not cheap since it's a very trendy area of the city but you can get reasonable deals if you're willing to do a 2-3 bedroom share. You could also look in Southie (South Boston) for cheaper places but that's a rough neighborhood. Back Bay is further from the BUSM and is also very expensive. BUMC is not an easy place to commute to but it can be done from anywhere in the city if you're willing to spend some time getting there. Boston's public transportation system leaves a lot to be desired... Allston and Brighton are good places to look for cheaper apartments. That's near BU proper and there may be shuttles to the med center.
Good luck.
 
is it possible to live in the south end and have a 5-10 minute walk to class each day? If not, anywhere else I could live to have just a short walk?

thanks.
 
stinkycheese said:
Hey guys-
You should look for places in the South End. It's not cheap since it's a very trendy area of the city but you can get reasonable deals if you're willing to do a 2-3 bedroom share. You could also look in Southie (South Boston) for cheaper places but that's a rough neighborhood. Back Bay is further from the BUSM and is also very expensive. BUMC is not an easy place to commute to but it can be done from anywhere in the city if you're willing to spend some time getting there. Boston's public transportation system leaves a lot to be desired... Allston and Brighton are good places to look for cheaper apartments. That's near BU proper and there may be shuttles to the med center.
Good luck.

I agree that rent in "Southie" could be pretty reasonable. However, when I came to visit there during my housing hunt, I got a weird feeling that people there are racist. A paragraph in my guidebook (The Rough Guide to Boston) even mentions one year when the KKK participated in some march in the area. The book notes that the KKK were met with jeers from the crowd but my immediate reaction was, why were they even allowed to march there in the first place? I appreciate any thoughts on this from experienced Bostonians since I can't get a straight answer from anyone else.
 
Hey cupcake,

Have you heard anything new from BU?
I'm still waiting.. 😴
 
Spartacus said:
Hey cupcake,

Have you heard anything new from BU?
I'm still waiting.. 😴

Hey Spartacus!

I haven't heard anything yet either. However, someone posted that BU admits a lot of people from the MA waitlist because many of the early admits decide not to enroll. From what I've read it seems like someone just got in 2 weeks ago. I think it was dimsum888(?). Let me know if you have any housing ?s. I'm no expert but I do think I know more about some areas now compared to a month ago. Hang in there!
 
Hey, any GMS/MED people want to find an apartment in the south end? I want to live close by during M1, commuting isnt easy cause there is no direct route by subway/train, and busses are a pain.

If so, PM me! I think i am going to try to participate in the roommate matching program i saw on the BU website.
 
How is the overall GPA/Science GPA/MCAT score compared to the BU entering class? Anyone know?
 
I'll be a second year GMS in the fall. Good luck guys! I'll be doing some minor TA'ing for Biochemistry and will be tutoring as well.

If anyone is looking for a place to live, I have an opening. I live in a 2-bedroom apartment 10 minutes walking from BUSM. The orange line is less than five minute walk, and the silver line is a 2-3 minute walk. The place is $775/month (per person) starting Sept. 1st. Unlimited laundry access next door is $25/month. fully furnished apartment, save the bedroom, and come August the bathroom will be newly refurbished. The apartment is in a Brownstone. If you're interested PM me, and you can look the place over if you're in Boston soon. No smokers/drug users please.
 
Hey everyone,

I will be starting at BU in september as well - I am from UCLA and am absolutely clueless about the Boston area....any of you guys taking the august MCAT and if so, are we gonna have enough time to find a place (after AUG 14th) ??
 
hey there,
i just decided to attend bu' masters program next year and am trying to track down housing for next year. let me know if any of you are interested in a 'gsm' apartment next to the medical center. i figure, in this way, we can help keep each other sane next year. let me know if anyone is interested and we can hunt down some good apartments.
 
Hey guys-

Just wanted to let ya'll know that there is a bus that leaves from BU Ugrad campus to the Med School every hour starting around 8 am and running with the last bus coming back from BUSM at 930pm...

Also, if you wanna live in a cheaper area, def. go Allston/Brighton...much cheaper than other areas, and you can catch the BU Allston bus to get to Campus (about a 5-10 minute ride depending on traffic)

Congrats to yuns.....
 
cupcake_queen said:
I agree that rent in "Southie" could be pretty reasonable. However, when I came to visit there during my housing hunt, I got a weird feeling that people there are racist. A paragraph in my guidebook (The Rough Guide to Boston) even mentions one year when the KKK participated in some march in the area. The book notes that the KKK were met with jeers from the crowd but my immediate reaction was, why were they even allowed to march there in the first place?

Does freedom of speech sound reasonable? 🙂 People in Southie are generally people who have been living in Boston since the tea party. It is very Irish, too. It can be a rough neighborhood, but I don't think its generally racist-- there is a mix of people who live in Southie, of all ethnicities.
 
I too am going to BU (PostBacc) in the fall. What should we do for financial aid? FAFSA? Does BU give loans?

Thanks
 
First you need to fill out the FAFSA (BU code 002130) www.fafsa.ed.gov

The most that federal aid will give is ~$18000, mostly in the form of stafford and perkins loans (I believe)
The rest you will have to borrow through a "direct lending program" such as Citiassist or MEFA ~$12000

If your poor like me, your gonna have to borrow another ~$10000 for rent and daily living expenses.

BU itself does not give any aid, I pretty sure........
 
As former med sci grad let me say congrats to all you entering the MA med sci next year next year. the program rocks, do whatever you have to get good grades, and you will definitely reap benefits.
here are a few pearls I can share from my experience in the program:

classes...histo and biochem are big courses with lots of info to remember, more so than any undergrad classes and as you already know they are med school courses. you wanna do well in these. I didn't take pharm and was glad I didn't, but from what I understand it can also be a tough course. from my experience, adjusting to the workload at grad was not as easy as I thought, don't feel compelled to go balls to wall with classes and take pharm your first semester, IMO it wont be weighed as much by adcoms as the 2 med school courses you can take. take the 2 credit biostat course instead. its easy as hell and will not suck up time that could be devoted to histo and biochem.
I took, pathology, physio, imunology and endocrinology spring semester. path is not a med school course, but is pretty interesting and not that tough, take that with the other 3 med school courses, do well in all and it looks as though you broke your ass taking 18 graduate level credits. but its not that tough a schedule since path and physio run early in the spring semester and immuno and endo start at the end of the spring semester after phsio ended. most importantly do well in physio, and get to know the course director Dr. O'Bryan, one of the finest professors at the school and a good person to know if you plan on attending the BUSM md program.

advisors....visit often and get to know both Dr. O'Bryan and Dr. Broitman, they are both great and will help you a lot during application time. Dr. Broitman is an incredibly nice guy and everyone loves the guy, he will give you a real optimistic outlook on the whole application process, maybe to optimistic. I found the best advice came from Dr. O'Bryan, some people are put off by him b/c he can be a bit gruff at times, but he will be brutally honest with you about everything, point out your applications strengths and weaknesses and always give good solid advice..... get to know him! he can be a very important person to know if you want to attend BUSM.

thesis,paperwork, forms and other stuff required.... I always did things last minute and handed things in late,I handed in the final draft of my thesis a day before they would have yanked my acceptance at busm. get it done sooner than later,it just makes things easier.

housing and locals....to clear some confusion up south Boston (southie) and the south end are two different areas. south Boston , relatively speaking is not that close to the med school, the school is located in the south end a nice neighborhood getting better and more expensive by the day, situated next to a not so nice neighborhood Roxbury, mass ave is a pretty clear dividing line between the two. if you are looking for a place check out Craig's list and try to stay east of mass ave if looking for a place in the south end. I live in the south end now and it takes less than five min from the time I leave my place till I sit down in class, when I did the program I lived in the back bay a very nice and very expensive area, and it took a little over 20 min to walk to school, I will be moving to Alston next year, good area lots of bars restaurants, it does have its student ghetto areas, so housing varies.

yea this a bit longer than planned, hope the info helps someone
 
Thanks for all the info bivwack!!! 🙂
 
After having taken the BU Medical School courses as a GMS student, what happens if one matriculates into the Med school? Are the courses retaken? Is this a benefit/disadvantage of going to BU medical afterward?
 
No my friend... you place out of those courses(at BUSM at least, not sure about elswhere), they do not have to be repeated. which really kicks a$$. Fall semester of first year at BUSM I did not have to take histo, that gave me more time for my other classes, especially anatomy - and that was good b/c man did I find that class tough. Was pretty glad I was able to do that, had Fridays off! :horns:
Spring semester was even better, with physio, biochem, endo and immuno out of the way I had plenty off free time, maybe to much, after neurosciences ended in Feb I only went to school 1-2 times a week for Integrated problems and the occasional intro to clinical medicine seminar.
Aside from IP & ICM the only two classes I had to take were essentials of public health,after neuro ended then genetics after EPH ended, 2 pretty easy courses, relatively speaking, I was never one for lectures, so I just showed up on the first day to get the syllabus, and then again at test time. 1st years who go through the GMS program have real easy first years, compared to their classmates who are buried in work.
One drawback though is i am never at school, when people in my class see me they they either dont know i am in their class, or thought i dropped out. well that was 1st year, 2nd year i am in the same boat as everyone else.
 
Thanks for all the info...very helpful.

What about those who go on to other med schools? I'm sure there are different policies depending on the school, but does it seem that most 1st years have a light year after completing GMS?
 
bivwack said:
(at BUSM at least, not sure about elswhere)

that's directed to anyone else...singing devil maybe?
 
Another $0.02 donation,
When I was applying I asked some of the schools about this, some do let you place out of some of the 1st year classes, it depends on how their curriculum is set up, and how closely BU's classes mirror theirs, don't recall which schools or what classes though. Either way, if you do have to retake, Its gonna be easier, you generally have to break your a$$ and do well in the MA program, taking the classes again should essentially just be review. I haven't looked at some of that material in almost 2 years, I started looking over it recently and low-n-behold, most of it is still bouncing around up there.

When app. time rolls around, give whatever schools you are interested in a call, chances are a GMS( or similar grad program) will be, is or has gone there, so they should be able to tell what ther policy is. Or when you start the program, ask Dr. O'bryan or Dr. Broitman, they should be able to steer you in the right direction.
 
BioMedGy said:
that's directed to anyone else...singing devil maybe?

Well, I've been called out.

Bivwack's info is good... basically mirroring what's been said on this thread and the other BU threads (i.e. if anyone has just read this thread, there are several other BU threads with far more info, and they will answer a lot of your questions. And my posts litter them.)

From what I've heard it depends on the school if you can place out. As far as I'm concerned, there's something to be said for the comraderie that develops between med students going through the same crap, and you'll lose out on some of that in not taking some of the courses. Unless I attend BU, I don't plan on trying to repeat anything. I figure it will have been 2 years since I took it, I might as well repeat it, get an easy honors grade (BU only does P/F in MS1), and be better prepared for clinical rotations and USMLE1.
 
I am also going to be a student in the M.A. program starting this fall. I was wondering if anyone knew what a reasonable amount was to pay for a 2 bedroom apartment in south end. It seems you can find some for around 1500, but a lot of them are substantially more. It sounds like just about any place near by the campus is a good bet. Also, does the T go right past the medical campus, if so which line, and are there cheaper places to live that are just a short train ride away for example. Any experience with this would be great. I'm excited about the program. My only complaint is that they seem to have kept us in the dark for the most part about what to prepare for. So thanks for all of the info from the current/past students!
 
Got a some PMs asking Q's about the GMS program, ended up writing a long response to one that i figure i would share. So here are some more pearls from my time in the program:

Just an FYI, if you don't already know, the syllabus handed out at BUSM isn't just a 1 page course outline, its more like a text book w/ all the lecture notes for the course, so with that, attendance for most classes really isn't necessary. Which is something that should be known, unless you prefer learning from lecture don't go, use that time to study, if that is how you learn best. My first semester in the MA program I went to all lectures and labs. I was there all day and when I got home I was pretty pooped and still had a night of studying ahead of me. I did OK. but really had to break my ass to do so . Towards the end of fall and all of spring semester, I stopped going to lecture unless I had thoroughly read and knew the material that was going to be discussed, otherwise I just sat in my apt or the library and studied on my own, did a lot better, and had a lot more free time. I used lectures as an optional reinforcement rather than my primary means of learning.

This is not to say you never have to go to class, some syllabi are better than others. Histo is very thorough, learn the syllabus and lab manual you are given and learn it well, you will have no problem w/ the class, its a lot of work but everything you need to know is given to you in the syllabus and lab book, towards the end of that class I stopped going to lab and lecture completely, sat at home w/ my microscope and syllabus, studied and did much better than I did in the first half of the course. Physio is BIG syllabus handed out in 3 or 4 parts, its thorough w/ lots of stuff to learn, I never went to lab, the web resources for that class were good and anything covered in lab was usualy on the web that or the next day, But sometimes they omit and/or add small parts to the syllabus, during lecture. I found that lectures where a good way to reinforce the material, so I attended a majority of them, but only when I had thoroughly studied what was going to be discussed. Endo is a continuation of the physio course and its syllabi is just as thorough, for both those classes going to class helps b/c if somthing small is mentioned and emphasized in lecture and not in the syllabi, you can be sure it will be on the test, could be the difference between a A- and A. Immuno is good, basicaly a summary of the text book, for me at least, a real easy A, only went to that class the 1st and last day. And finally , I am not sure if it has gotten any better but the biochem syllabus blows, this is one class you have to go to and take good notes, some stuff discussed in class is in the syllabus other stuff is not, some stuff that is in the syllabus is not mentioned in lecture, unlike the other classes, the biochem syllabus was pretty much a secondary resource.

But for all these classes the things I found most helpful for doing well, were old tests, knowing the material well is important, but there is more than mere memorization involved, you will be tested on your knowledge, comprehension and ability to integrate that info. Old tests let you know what is expected of you and are great practice. There are plenty available, try asking first years who were GMS if they saved old practice tests. Those that attended 2yrs before would have old practice tests from 2-3yrs before that, so you could potentially get you hands on 5 yrs worth of test, rather than the previous 2yrs that are usually available. Plus if you can accumulate enough old test you will see a quite few of the questions repeated on your exam.. free points!

Just know that attendance at lab/lect is not required and for some is not beneficial, but other do swear by them. If you find lecture is just eating up large chunks of your time and you aren't learning much from them, don't go and don't feel guilty about it. The school provides lots of resources for you to learn the material, extensive syllabi, lectures, labs, course web sites, tutors, ect...You don't have to use them all, find what works for you b/c there will be a lot of info you will be responsible for, and you really will need to find out what is the most efficient and effective method of learning for you. Because if you want to reap the benefits of this program, you will need to do well in your classes. Which means, for the most part doing better than the med student you will taking some classes with.

Basically to summarize everything said above. As far as the med school courses you will be allowed to take are concerned, over the course of 9.5 months you will have to take around 9-10 exams, DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO, IN ORDER TO DO GOOD ON THESE EXAMS! that's essentially what the whole program boils down to, those tests and how you do on them, every things else such as thesis, attendance, volunteering, getting to know faculty and students, so on so forth, should be a distant second when it comes to priorities. For the most part you have one shot so make it count. Do that (yea its tough) and also do well in biostats and path if you take it (not so tough), talk to the advisors (particularly POB), gather recomendations, write your thesis and a nice admissions essay, and you will be part of the 85% of those I the program that get accepted from the program.

Best of luck to those entering next year.
 
bmjones said:
I am also going to be a student in the M.A. program starting this fall. I was wondering if anyone knew what a reasonable amount was to pay for a 2 bedroom apartment in south end. It seems you can find some for around 1500, but a lot of them are substantially more. It sounds like just about any place near by the campus is a good bet. Also, does the T go right past the medical campus, if so which line, and are there cheaper places to live that are just a short train ride away for example. Any experience with this would be great. I'm excited about the program. My only complaint is that they seem to have kept us in the dark for the most part about what to prepare for. So thanks for all of the info from the current/past students!

Unless you want to live in the slums of Boston, you won't find a 2bed for less than $1500 usually. Maybe in Allston you could find something really rundown for less, but not usually...

I don't think the T stops anywhere near BUSM, but I am not 100% sure.

I just got into this program today, so I will be joining you all at BU! I already live here and will not probably be moving, but if anyone wants to ask questions about the area (have been here for six years), shoot.
 
stinkycheese said:
Unless you want to live in the slums of Boston, you won't find a 2bed for less than $1500 usually. Maybe in Allston you could find something really rundown for less, but not usually...

I don't think the T stops anywhere near BUSM, but I am not 100% sure.

I just got into this program today, so I will be joining you all at BU! I already live here and will not probably be moving, but if anyone wants to ask questions about the area (have been here for six years), shoot.

Let me second that. If you find a 2 bedroom in the South End for less than $1700, you'll be doing really good. The South End can be really expensive. I've got a place that is virtually in the South End, it's $1550 a month, and that's pretty good for a two bedroom.

I know I've posted this before, but I am looking for a roommate for the fall (Sept. 1). check out my previous posts on this if you're interested and PM me.

Regarding bivwack's advice about skipping class, let me just say, skip class at your own peril. There are some classes that you can skip. No question. But, if you skip Biochem classes you risk missing a lot of material that is NOT in the syllabus (and is tested). If you skip Histo, you may find stuff doesn't quite make sense (NEVER skip Histo lab. It will really hurt your understanding). I personally wouldn't skip Physio. And finally, feel free to skip all of Immunology. The best way is to attend everything at the outset and then get a feel for what's important and what isn't. If you don't think you need class after a while, fine, but you'll be missing out on the opportunity to interact with classmates and learn from some fine lecturers. Some syllabi are better than others, and some sections of syllabi are dense while others are sparse. Whatever. Do whatever you have to do to do well. Do your best to get a 3.5 GPA, which is the gold standard at the program.
 
Hey there-

I went to UCB also and will probably be at BU this fall (I still haven't heard from GT so I imagine it's not good news...). See y'all soon.

Dave
 
Who's still waiting for acceptance for this program? Anyone talk to admission to see how much longer we can wait or how long the waitlist is? Does anyone know if most students get into this program or is the program pretty hard to get in? SOrry for all the questions but I am starting to worry. Thanks
 
FirgoMD said:
Who's still waiting for acceptance for this program? Anyone talk to admission to see how much longer we can wait or how long the waitlist is? Does anyone know if most students get into this program or is the program pretty hard to get in? SOrry for all the questions but I am starting to worry. Thanks

If you read the website, they are pretty open about stating that you need a 3.0 and a 25+ mcat to get in. I would imagine the stats of matriculants are higher on average, but maybe not. It is not easy to get into. They want folks who, upon completion of the program, will have a great shot at medical school. That involves having a pretty good (if not great) undergrad record.
 
Does anyone know of any relatively nice housing near the campus? How about places, apts., and other stuff to stay away from? Any other information would be greatly appreciated. By the way I have looked through craig's list, off-campus housing, and others. I am just trying to get feedback from people who live in or know the area and surrounding areas. Thanks.
 
"Nice" housing in Boston is plentiful and very expensive. The South End is full of nice housing and is very close to campus, but expect to pay the big bucks... I went looking for places near the South End today and the dollar to square foot ratio is pretty darn high. Same with the Back Bay (also close to campus) and kenmore/fenway (close, but a little further away and also a little cheaper). Roxbury, Dorchester, and Southie are also close to campus but are cheaper neighborhoods; however, they are also somewhat dangerous neighborhoods.
 
Is there anyone still on the waitlist? Anybody have any information on how long the waitlist is?
 
I have found some decent places in the Fenway/Kenmore area, but I really cannot tell how nice they are because I found them online and have not seen them yet. South End is definitely expensive, well at least to me. If anyone has any other information please let me know.
 
kenas21 said:
I have found some decent places in the Fenway/Kenmore area, but I really cannot tell how nice they are because I found them online and have not seen them yet. South End is definitely expensive, well at least to me. If anyone has any other information please let me know.

If you post here about where you found the listings, whether they are high rises or brownstones, and what realty company, what price, what square footage, and the streets, I can give you an idea of whether you're getting a good deal.
 
For Spartacus, cupcake_queen, and FirgoMD, I just talked to a person at the admissions office and got some answers regarding the waitlist:

1. They will be reviewing the people on the waitlist tomorrow (July 20).
2. When asked how long the waitlist is, she responded, "VERY long."
3. When asked how late admissions could possibly be, she responded "up until August."

Obviously, she gave me some pretty vague answers, and as the end of summer draws near, I am beginning to lose more hope. Does anyone know how many people BU usually admits for their MAMS program? How many off the waitlist? I wasn't provided a specific rank on the waitlist; was anyone else?
 
hey does anyone know when classes begin?
 
Does anyone know how many folks from the MA program get accepted into BUSM? They don't put that info on the website, but perhaps some of the folks who have done the program will have some idea.

Thanks!
Dave
 
*dave* said:
Does anyone know how many folks from the MA program get accepted into BUSM? They don't put that info on the website, but perhaps some of the folks who have done the program will have some idea.

Thanks!
Dave

I think it's around 35-40, but I'm not 100% sure. You might want to check the other posts, there is quite a few on the program.
 
Stinkycheese,

I found some places in or around Fenway/Kenmore area. Is this area safe, especially for students? So far it seems like the ideal place because it is close to BU Charles River campus. I plan to use the their facilities like the gym or rec. center and bus to the medical campus. Also, I would imagine there would be less undergrads living nearby. It seems like most undergrads and others students live in or around Allston/Brighton, which could get to noisy and congested. Although, I have heard Fenway/Kenmore area can get pretty loud and congested, especially when the Soxs are home. Ok what realtors or brokers should I stay away from? How about streets or areas I should stay away from? So far I know not live in Dorchester, South Boston, Roxbury, Mattapan, Hyde Park, Chinatown, and Mission Hill. I listed these areas according the housing guide BU sent out. These areas have lower safety ratings and lower student populations. So far this is almost all that I can go by. Primarily for me, it is about convenience, safety, commute time and price, and not really in that order. Thanks for your help.
 
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