OFFICIAL COLUMBIA COUNTDOWN THREAD

choker · Feb 11, 2002

I just called and they changed their date from feb. 19 to THIS FRIDAY!!!

okay guys, all letters are supposedly going out this friday. frantz is coming to speak to the premeds at my school tonight and im gonna try and read his face when i introduce myself.

ill tell you guys how it goes.

good luck yall!

just remember, they only send out about 160 acceptances on friday and then pull people individually off the waitlist as people withdraw.

this way they have a super high matriculation rate.

E'01 · Feb 11, 2002

oh my - be still my heart. Thanks for the info A

moo · Feb 11, 2002

I'll probably get rejected since my interview went very bad, but it's still nice to know that the COUNTDOWN IS ON BABY!

choker · Feb 11, 2002

moo, we interviewed on the same day (if i recall), who was your interview with?

i remember there was one guy there that day who was asked to solve some math problem and couldn't do it!

choker · Feb 11, 2002

in all your interview travails and conversations, ever notice that all the really beautiful p&s applicants are interviewed by frantz? i mean, without fail, everytime i see a stunning columbia applicant at a school, they say they interviewed with frantz.

did you guys look in the p&s bulletin they gave us? under admissions, frantz' first line states:

"One of the most rewarding aspects of being an admissions officer is the opportunity it affords of meeting a large number of unusually able and attractive people."

i thought that was hilarious.

let's start a thread, since i am taking 3 courses and really have absolutely nothing better to do with my time, of who interviewed with whom.
and if you interviewed with frantz, also include your telephone number.

i'll start:

john brust (1)

jargon124 · Feb 11, 2002

No wonder my interview wasn't with Frantz! Oh well, to tell ya the truth, I am totally chill about P&S these days...I would love to go there but I will definitely get by very well without them. So, we shall see...

Weeble · Feb 11, 2002

adding Dr. Lisio. Did anyone else have him? Such a strange interview!

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bomback · Feb 11, 2002

I also had Dr. Lisio. Very strange interview! He started with "so do you have any questions for me?" the entire interview lasted like 20 minutes.

john brust (1)
Dr. Lisio (2)

katiep · Feb 11, 2002

Since I interviewed last year with Dr. Frantz but not this one, I guess I must have gotten worse looking since.

choker · Feb 11, 2002

yeah, my interview was also kinda weird. we didn't talk about me at all. it was just how i felt about war and random stuff like that. granted it lasted 1.5 hours, but it seems that the interviewers there already know you from your app and feel it's redundant to ask you the same questions. i am also getting the feeling there that a lot of the interviewers feel that interviewing so many applicants is kinda superfluous, so they may not take it that seriously. i mean, bare in mind that a few years ago columbia interviewed ALL applicants.

SMW · Feb 11, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> I just called and they changed their date from feb. 19 to THIS FRIDAY!!! <hr /></blockquote><img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

And I thought I looked great in the pic I sent!!

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Dr. Lisio (2)

MorningLight2100 · Feb 11, 2002

It might be true that Dr. Frantz interviews all of the bee-uuu-tee-ful applicants, but I know for a fact that all of the applicants that he interviews are not beautiful. Hence: moi.

john brust (1)
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Dr. Hoke (1)
Dr. Lisio (2)

cm7b5 · Feb 11, 2002

I interviewed with Frantz......I liked him.....he is really cool......but I told him I liked jazz much more than classical music....and I pointed out how jazz transcends conventional western counterpoint....I don't know if that went over well with him........but I was just being honest...!!!

choker · Feb 11, 2002

you were one of my examples, katie.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

gobears · Feb 11, 2002

I heard Frantz also interviews almost everyone from Ivy League schools. Oh well, I interviewed with Lisio. Just like Weeble and Bomback, my interview with him was strange.

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Dr. Hoke (1)
Dr. Lisio (3)

jargon124 · Feb 11, 2002

Two things:

1) Our beloved MorningLight is definitely an example, not an exception, as Choker noted. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

2) Is it really true that they select who will be interviewed by Frantz and who will not? I think that's BS (unfair) if it's true. Anyone agree?

kafka79 · Feb 11, 2002

I interviewed with Dr. Frantz. I go to big state U, the antithesis of ivy league, so I think the ivy theory may not hold up. I hope he didn't pick me to interview by the way I look. That would be a little creepy. (I'll pretend to be interested in rugby, but there's a certain line I'm not crossing!) Just kidding though. He seemed like a cool guy. Can't wait to find out if I got in.

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Dr. Hoke (1)
Dr. Lisio (3)

G. I. Joseph · Feb 11, 2002

did anyone have donald landry? he was the nicest guy... had a great conversation with him. Hes does really cool research too. That day Dean Frantz certainly didnt interview the good looking one

ConstantlyWaiting · Feb 11, 2002

I had Dr. Lisio also. My interview was strange to say the least. First he told me that I shouldn't be worried if I make the waitlist (very optimistic!)Needless to say, not expecting good news from them.

john brust (1)
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Dr. Hoke (1)
Dr. Lisio (4)

choker · Feb 11, 2002

i just ran into frantz 10 seconds ago. he was about to make a speech to the premeds at my school about P&S and med school in general, and i was gonna ask him about anything_ when do we get the answers!_ but my dean grabbed me right before and told me not to "hijack" him. so now i am sitting in my room, feeling somewhat foolish for having almost perhaps done something inappropriate.

goddamn i want to know!!!

nitemagi · Feb 11, 2002

Add one for Dr. Stephen Nicholas. Really nice guy. Still regret not sending a thank you card. Bygones.

alphacentauri · Feb 11, 2002

I'm going to add on my interview with Dr. Franz (and sorry, no phone # <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> --I'm pretty average looking anyway) . I too had kind of a strange interview--not much about me, a lot about how I spent my time in New York before the interview and lot about what great athletes he's got in the class. However, not a bad experience overall, just not much to help them make a decision. I can't wait to get the wait over with at this point.

john brust (1)
Dr. Frantz (3)
Dr. Hoke (1)
Dr. Lisio (4)

Gottalaugh · Feb 11, 2002

Adding my interview with Dr. Stevenson. The initial start of my interview was a little unusual - but after that it went alright....I think.

john brust (1)
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Dr. Hoke (1)
Dr. Lisio (4)
Dr. Stevenson (1)

synite · Feb 11, 2002

i'm adding Dr. Ortiz-Neu....very nice woman

john brust (1)
Dr. Frantz (3)
Dr. Hoke (1)
Dr. Lisio (4)
Dr. Stevenson (1)
Dr. Ortiz-Neu (1)

Doctora Foxy · Feb 11, 2002

I heard this girl interviewed with Dr Frantz too:

<img src="http://content.rollingstone.com/content/6720/Images/00281567.jpg" alt="" />

<img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" />

E'01 · Feb 11, 2002

I'm adding Dr. John Herbert

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A. Caveman · Feb 11, 2002

Foxy, where'd you get that picture of my girlfriend?!

Cal7449 · Feb 11, 2002

I'll add Dr. Britton. She was nice, but was way behind schedule and the interview felt really rushed.

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Dr. Britton (1)

bomback · Feb 11, 2002

I really think that Columbia doesn't really care much about the interview. I remember when i interviewed 2 doctors interviewed 6 people, and they had scheduled each interviewee a 30 minute time slot which included time for the doctor to review their applications. So you had about 20-25 minutes of interviewing time!

moo · Feb 11, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by choker:
moo, we interviewed on the same day (if i recall), who was your interview with?

i remember there was one guy there that day who was asked to solve some math problem and couldn't do it!<hr /></blockquote>YUP THAT WAS ME!

choker · Feb 11, 2002

HAHAHAHA sorry dude, that sucks. i've told others about your story, though, so at least your legacy will live forever.

what we do in life echos in eternity.

jargon124 · Feb 11, 2002

Geez, I know it's easier said than done, but I think if I was asked to solve a math problem during any of my interviews I would just politely walk out and withdraw my app on the spot. Seriously, that's quite rediculous that you were subject to that. Are you a math major or something? How did the conversation end up in you being asked to do math? I still can't believe it...

Also, I was unaware of this, but I heard P&S is going to be pass/fail starting next year (for MS1 only)? Is it true? If so, that's great.

gobears · Feb 11, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by bomback:
I really think that Columbia doesn't really care much about the interview. I remember when i interviewed 2 doctors interviewed 6 people, and they had scheduled each interviewee a 30 minute time slot which included time for the doctor to review their applications. So you had about 20-25 minutes of interviewing time!<hr /></blockquote>It's funny that you say that because I've heard the exact same thing about how the interview isn't that important. I'm really curious as to how important the interview is at different schools. Maybe I'll start a thread.

My interview was way back in September, so Columbia's been in the back of my mind for 5 or 6 months now!

MorningLight2100 · Feb 12, 2002

Awwwww, shucks, you guys!!! Jargon & choker, you know how to make a girl smile.

Choker, don't feel foolish about your near "hijacking" of Dr. Frantz...with how long and arduous this process is, I think that most of us have considered something similar at one time or another.

Jargon, if accepted to Columbia, will you attend? I remember that you were concerned about being far from your girlfriend.

moo · Feb 12, 2002

Well, actually I am very proud when it comes to math, guess that makes me out to be a major nerd, but I don't really care. (And yes I am a math/physics major.) So anyway, out of nowhere, the guy starts drawing these circles on a plane and asks me some question about them. And so I was really surprised and I was getting nervous so I just made up some solution (which in hindset, was correct) and then he just went on about how to solve it in another way. He just interrupted me and was like "well if you do this, and assume this and that you will..." Anyhow, I just stared at it and I smiled... made for an unnerving interview, but nonetheless makes for an interesting pre-med conversation piece.

moo · Feb 12, 2002

OK, seriously, how can the Columbia interview NOT count for a lot? Don't they interview something like 1000 applicants? Assuming they accept about 200 to fill their class, how can they choose who to accept? doesn't make sense to me...

gobears · Feb 12, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by moo:
OK, seriously, how can the Columbia interview NOT count for a lot? Don't they interview something like 1000 applicants? Assuming they accept about 200 to fill their class, how can they choose who to accept? doesn't make sense to me...<hr /></blockquote>They look at your picture and look to see if you play rugby. Just kidding... I think.

cm7b5 · Feb 12, 2002

Have any post interviewers received rejections? I just want to see if they are sending out two batches of rejections, one for pre interviewers and another for post. I wish I played rugby. I also wish that I didn't tell Frantz that I liked jazz more than classical music....and then went into how parochial western music theory is....that was dumb......where's my thin envelope?

E'01 · Feb 12, 2002

Why not help them save postage money and just pick up our letters on Friday?

choker · Feb 12, 2002

have you guys seen the other thread saying that ALL rejections have already been sent out. holy **** guys. this is totally weird.

MorningLight2100 · Feb 12, 2002

Two more days. . . . . .

matthew0126 · Feb 13, 2002

i interviewed with dr frantz too... also got a very weird interview. we barely talked about me, instead we talked about the excessive flag-burning in berkeley, music, and a host of strange off-the-wall topics

i gotta agree with the theory that the interview doesn't count very much... you hear all these stories of people that interviewed for 10 minutes and that got in... and people that talked with frantz for an hour and a half and got rejected <shrug>

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Cal7449:
I'll add Dr. Britton. She was nice, but was way behind schedule and the interview felt really rushed.

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hard luck · Feb 13, 2002

Does anyone else find it SOOOOOO annoying that we should technically recieve our Columbia letters on the 18th, but because it is President's Day and there is no mail we have to wait one more day?! That drives me crazy..

alice · Feb 13, 2002

i highly doubt all rejections have been sent out. no one i know has been rejected from there - as much as i'd like it to happen, we can't all be in the chosen 160. p and s accepts only one class and then fills from the waitlist....

Doctora Foxy · Feb 13, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by hard luck:
Does anyone else find it SOOOOOO annoying that we should technically recieve our Columbia letters on the 18th, but because it is President's Day and there is no mail we have to wait one more day?! That drives me crazy..<hr /></blockquote>I didn't realize that!!! I'm leaving for spring break on Monday, and I'm waiting for a letter from BU that day. Damnit! <img border="0" alt="[Pissy]" title="" src="graemlins/pissy.gif" />

amp · Feb 13, 2002

well i'm glad other people found the columbia experience weird too. it was my first interview, i paid a considerable amount out of my paltry post-college salary to get to nyc from san fran, just to have a 30 minute chat about art, art history, the trends in new art museums, american history, and maybe a few things about my life story with dr. brust aka abe lincoln, who wouldn't shut up long enough for me to convince him how great i was. it made me think my file bored him too much to go into it so he just picked fun topics to talk about. threw me for a loop when in my next interview they actually asked questions about me.

SMW · Feb 13, 2002

Hi, amp, welcome to SDN!! My interview at Columbia was a little weird, too, with my interviewer alternating between very relaxed chatting with me about music to ramrod straight, professional demeanor and health care system questions.

Getting back to the countdown, folks, this was posted today (Wed. 2/13) on the other Columbia thread:

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Osler Penfield:
sorry about the confusion I caused yesterday. I called back today and got a very plausible response this time. The Committee is meeting today and all day w/Dr frantz to make all final decisions. these decisions will be mailed out on friday in one big batch...that is, acceptance, rejections and waitlists will all be sent out this friday! mind u, very few people actually get ooutright rejected...most get waitlisted!
ok, there it is! im nervous as a buttercake in the springtime! <hr /></blockquote>And dammit, I'm leaving town this Saturday for almost a week!!! Guess I'll be calling home a lot!

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cm7b5 · Feb 13, 2002

Columbia deserves to be at the top....BUMP!

choker · Feb 13, 2002

one more day...

jargon124 · Feb 13, 2002

You guys on the east coast are lucky. You will get the mail Friday/Saturday. Out here in the west we have to wait till Monday/Tuesday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

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