***Official Pre-Pod What Are My Chances Thread***

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  1. pre-PodStudent159

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    They did talk about the on campus housing, however Dave Fletcher (person who you talk to most of the time there) did not have much information about it. I personally knew I would not live on campus because I know I can find something cheaper, so I did not ask much about it, but you do get a chance to talk to 1st and 2nd year students at lunch, so I would ask them about it while your there. We did not get to see the housing ourselves.
    The biggest reason why I am not considering the campus housing is because if you live on campus, they require you to purchase a meal plan as well, which costs thousands of dollars. I know for a fact I will not be eating 3 square meals a day on campus, so it is basically a waste of money for me.
     
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    Hey guys! Long time lurker, but I finally made an account. Just wanted to see what my chances are.
    MCAT: 499
    science GPA: 3.82
    non-science GPA: 3.71 (Calculus hurt that one)
    overall GPA: 3.78
    Biology major with a chem minor
    Licensed emt. Worked in a hospital as a transporter for 8 months. Then worked in the ER for 4 months.
    Shadowed various doctors but have about 30 hours shadowing a DPM.
    I would love to get into Midwestern but I've heard they favor high GPAs and MCAT scores. I'd like to know if anyone who's interviewed there can give me any insight on how my scores compare. Also I've seen that my shadowing hours seem low compared to others. Do schools want to see a certain amount of hours? Or do they just want us to prove that we know what a DPM does? Thanks!
     
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    You are in amazing shape for Midwestern. From the acceptance class of 2023 thread, there's been students accepted with a lower MCAT score. Great job.
     
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    Finally some positive comments about Barry! I don't know why Barry has such a bad reputation here. Thank you for taking your time to explain this. Really appreciated!!
     
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    great chances at any school including Midwestern.

    30 hours of DPM shadowing is more than enough; more important if you have something to say about your experiences.
     
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    Thank you so much! I cant wait to hear back. Any idea how long it should take? My app was sent three days ago
     
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    Thanks! I saw plenty of patients and two surgeries. Do you have any idea how long it might take to hear back from MWU? My applications was sent three days ago.
     
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    I am not sure. I have not applied there. I guess within a week after your app gets verified. Was your app complete and verified already?
     
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    Any time now.

    Heard back within 1 week and it was a reach school for me.

    They like high stat applicants like you. Even if MCAT is 499, your GPA more than makes up for it.

    Have fun and enjoy the journey.

    If you can, I'd like for you to share why you chose podiatry over MD/DO. For prospective readers.
     
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    Another pro at Barry is you don't have to go to all classes that you know you can do better just studying at home for. NYCPM requires attendance. Barry's professors record/screenshare the whole lecture online and some students were saying they have recordings from many years so it's a lot of practice when boards come around.
     
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    I applied in August and was invited for interview within 10 days. First available interviews were within 6 weeks. Acceptance was next-day after the interview. It all happens so fast...Good luck!
     
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    sGPA of 2.5 and uGPA of 2.55 in chem/biochem double major. Finishing my masters of science with a 3.77. Multiple leadership awards , worked 4 years as a CNA and 3 years as a HHA. Over 100 hours shadowing a podiatrist. Mcat score is a 501. Really hoping to get into NYCPM or Temple. Any advice on what my chances are or what I can do during the spring semester of 2019 to help my chances?

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    When do you plan to apply?
     
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    Im looking to apply before the deadline in June 2019 to get in for the fall 2019. I'm already 25 and feel like I'm way behind.

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    It seems like your biggest weakness was your undergrad GPA which you've addressed by kicking your Masters program's behind. On paper, you have enough healthcare and podiatry experience to demonstrate that you know what you're getting into. Make sure you identify key experiences to highlight in your personal statement and interview.

    You don't mention research or volunteering -- perhaps you could focus on one of those for the first half of 2019.

    I don't know if I would wait until June to apply, though. There is more scholarship opportunity for early applicants. Also keep in mind that you'll have to take some time to visit the schools for interviews. A lot of people change their opinions after actually visiting the campuses despite having done extensive online research.
     
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    I agree with poddamnit that you should not wait until the end of the cycle. When do you graduate with your masters? If you graduate this December, I would apply right away. I don't think there is anything else you could do that would significantly improve your chances. Having 3.7 in masters and 501 MCAT along with your experiences, I think is good enough unless you wouldn't get accepted.

    If you apply early January and start volunteering or doing something else, you could mention that during your interviews. Otherwise dont wait.

    What I would do next year before school starts is work to earn some money, travel, enjoy and visit some people you would like to visit like relatives or close friends. Make sure you have enough time to find a place to live and set everything up in case you get accepted.

    Do you have any volunteering hours anywhere?


    Btw, is your masters heavy in sciences?
     
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    Thank you guys so much. I will be graduating with a M.S. of Environmental science which is heavy on biology and chemistry. As for research I have over 4 years of research and a masters thesis on a heavy science topic. For volunteering I was president of my student government and put on multiple charities for st Jude, MS walk and numerous other great organizations. I don't want to mention everything but I'd like to show the Programs that I was a student that learned from his mistakes and is dedicated to helping his community

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    I think you should apply as early as possible. Do whatever you want before school starts. Like I said before. I would work, earn some money and enjoy this time before you start school.
     
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    Hello everyone,
    I just wanted some opinions on whether or not I may be okay to apply to some schools. My stats are as followed:

    cGPA: 3.1
    sGPA: 2.9
    MCAT: 490
    -Two years of Neuroscience research with about four poster presentations and one publication
    -Founded Pre-Health Club at my institution
    -Certified Nurse Aide in the past
    -Biology Tutor, TA Mentor for underrepresented high school students taking college level classes twice a week
    - volunteer at a non-profit organization for about a year
    -1st place Oral Presentation in Social Sciences Category at the 26th annual CSTEP Conference
    -Omicron Delta Kappa National Leadership Honor Society
    I also did a Pre-Health Internship at a podiatry school where I actually got to learn a lot about the profession and even got to shadow a few podiatrists in multiple hospitals.
    Would love some feedback if you all think I may be competitive enough for a couple of schools.
     
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    I would say that if you apply ASAP, like get everything into AACPMAS by next week for verification, you may have a shot at Barry, Kent, CSPM. I got into Barry and CSPM with a 3.1 sGPA, 489 MCAT, and 3.38 cGPA. You may not get scholarships however.
     
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    You're fine. If you're planning to start school next year, apply now.

    If you want scholarships and are a good test taker, consider retaking the MCAT and getting a 500+.
     
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    I see! Thank you for the feedback. What do you think about my competitiveness for NYCPM or Temple?
     
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    NYCPM maybe, I don't think Temple will bite this application year. I got rejected within 24 hours, however i did get a 489 MCAT. You could try. Seems like Temple has raised the bar a bit regarding MCAT scores.
     
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    Good chances at most schools.
     
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    Temple like high mcat scores, so unless you are planning to retake and score 495+, I would focus on other schools.

    DMU seems to like high GPAs and is more flexible on mcat. AZPOD really likes high numbers overall. Every other school is a go tho.

    Though, not sure how apps are this year, maybe Temple will bite. I’d apply to all schools you are interested in to see who bites.

    Your ECs are really good, especially the Pod specific ones.

     
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    Is interviewing at temple and NYCPM mid December considered late in the cycle?
     
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    science GPA: 3.68
    cumulative GPA: 3.72
    MCAT: 491

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    CPR Certification
    Volunteer at Office of Services for Students with Disabilties
    Omircron Delta Kappa National Leadership Honor Society
    Was President of the Executive Counsil of Honors College for a year
    Secretary of Pre-Health Club (year)
    Secretary of South Asian Student Association (year)
    Volunteer Work at Northwell Hospital (on and off for a year)
    A couple different work experiences unrelated to medical field but showing leadership position
    Just began as a research assistant about a month ago

    I applied to present at a National Regional Honors Conference
    I applied for a week long research program in winter
    I hope to get both of these as it may add to my application

    I have not shadowed yet as I will be doing that during my gap year.

    I’m trying to figure out what I would be a good applicant for. I recently visited a podiatry school and it was definitely more interesting than I expected. I was initially MD/DO but now I’m delving further into different respective fields so I was curious where I stand as an applicant?




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    Chances are great at all schools!
     
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    Yeah, with that MCAT Pod is about your only option if you wanna be a doctor, unless u take the OAT or DAT.

    chances are good at all schools though and you might even get scholarships with that GPA.

    Find out if this is something you wanna do vs just not being able to get into MD or DO school. Lots of smelly gross stuff, but super rewarding in terms of patient interactions (from what I shadowed. Pods were regularly thanked and blessed).
     
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    What Gypsy said.

    You're fine stats wise.

    Make sure you aren't using this as a replacement for your original MD/DO goals simply because your MCAT is low and you do not want to retake.

    This profession is very different. It has its limitations in scope but has a huge variety regarding the foot alone.

    You will not be doing surgeries day in day out. You will also be clipping nails, nail avulsions, diabetic ulcers, etc.

    Shadow and set up a realistic expectation of what this profession offers.
     
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    Hello, i am new here so forgive me if this questions has already been addressed. i was pre-med but have switched to pre-pod. currently i have a 493 MCAT score and 3.4 cGPA and 3.3 sGPA. I am set to retake the MCAT in January 2018. i have not yet submitted my application. is it too late? should i wait until my january mcat? my top school is Scholl as it is in my hometown. all the help would be greatly appreciated
     
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    I don't think its too late to apply. I would hit that submit button sooner the better! Submit your new January score when it comes out. If you have any questions about the school feel free to reach out!
     
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    I have stats a smidge lower than yours and I have had interviews + acceptances this cycle. But always shoot for that higher MCAT if you have the means to do so. :) best of luck
     
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    I have posted about this in the past but I would like to get more opinions. So I plan to take the MCAT in January. Should I submit the application now without the MCAT score or should I just wait to submit my application in January after I've taken the MCAT?

    I have a 3.506 CGPA, 3.27 SGPA, and I have all my transcripts and LORs submitted to the AACPMAS portal. I have over 500+ hours of community service, I work for the state government, and I have shadowed a DPM and a dentist.
     
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    You're fine.

    Apply now.
     
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    Hi all, I'm new here. I would like to apply to Western and CSPM, but I'm not sure if I should...

    cGPA: 3.20
    sGPA: 3.16
    Post-bacc GPA: 3.89
    MCAT: 499

    -3 years of Evolutionary Biology research with about six poster presentations, and one undergraduate journal publication
    -Received highest undergraduate research award "excellence in research",
    -Received $1000 grant after submitting abstract to do personal experiment
    -400+ clinical hours working as an MA and as a volunteer in the ER
    -200+ non-clinical hours volunteering with food pantry and beach cleanups
    -25 hours shadowing podiatrists
    -Treasurer of pre-health fraternity
    -Anatomy TA in post-bacc program
    -Part of post-bacc program admissions committee as an interviewer
    -Already have 2 strong letters of rec from podiatrists who happen to be the alumni of the schools I want to get into (I honestly don't know if that helps, but I thought I'd include)

    Any advice is appreciated! Thanks!
     
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    Your stats are fine! I got an II from Western and my GPAs were similar and my MCAT was a few points lower.
     
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    Hello,
    I have a really low gpa and mcat and was wondering what my chances would be of acceptance to pod school. My gpa is a 2.5 probably now 2.6 after one semester of postbac classes and my mcat is a 487. I was really sick when I took the mcat and it was my first time. I have great ECs with shadowing, research, work experience, volunteering. I got an email from Barry to consider a career in podiatry. In the email it said on the bottom that they sent me the email from having my information from the mcat services. I'm willing to apply to all the pod schools but I don't know whether I will get accepted. Some threads here show that people have been accepted with my mcat and gpa but I haven't seen a lot.
    I'm also willing to retake the mcat before the Fall 2019 semester. I don't know whether I should pursue a masters for a year to offset my gpa. If I did pursue a masters I don't know which one to apply to but I have received emails from a view masters programs.
    I don't want to have to wait another year to apply but I'm willing to in case I don't get in. Appreciate tips and feedback from anyone with information. Also I contacted one pod school and they said it's still not too late to apply. I've started the application and the schools have been emailing me to complete the application. I know this doesn't happen with MD or DO schools but three individual pod schools have emailed requesting to complete the pod application.
    Hoping for feedback that will help.
     
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    Just my two cents, but I suggest not applying this cycle. Unfortunately, your GPA and MCAT will most likely yield very little results if you were to apply this cycle. Some people do a masters, but I like DIY postbaccs. Take upper level science classes that mimic professional school classes, such as cell biology, immunology, virology, etc and do well in them to demonstrate competency. Retake your MCAT and score as high as you can. If you want a benchmark number, a lot of people on this forum like 495+. You can change your study schedule, use a different third party company testing resources (don’t forget AAMC materials though), and take/revise more practice tests to achieve a higher score. Again, this post is just my opinion, but I hope it helps!
     
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    Do you think if I state in my application that I am retaking the MCAT that I may have a better chance if I apply this cycle? It’s just because I already took a year off after graduating and I don’t want to not be trying to apply. I was thinking to try again if I don’t get accepted. I already did a small diy postbac for one semester after graduating and it hasn’t improved my gpa much at all that’s why I was considering a masters. I would have to take two years to raise the gpa with a diy postbac and I don’t want that. Thank you for the MCAT tips that helps a lot!!
    Would it be possible to just retake my MCAT and be able to get in this cycle?
     
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    Ohhhh boyo....here we go.

    You have no business applying to any type of professional program right now.
    Your GPA would be a reach even for SMPs or regular M.S. programs.

    I am not trying to be mean, I am trying to get you to be realistic.

    You will not survive in any type of medicine program with a 2.6 GPA.
    You will not be able to pass standardized exams such as boards with a 487 MCAT.

    Your best bet, if you really want to do a healthcare related field, is to retake courses as justici mentioned and get at the minimum- all Bs in them.
    Retake the MCAT and get 493+.

    Your GPA is an indication of how well you will do in the courses after you enroll.
    Your MCAT is an indication of how well you can prepare for a standardized exam.
    Right now they are no where near what they should be. Even IF you get in, you will struggle and potentially fail out.

    Regarding Masters programs- programs know not all graduate programs are equal. If you do something easy like an MPH or something with no heavy science courses, you are only faking the GPA and lying to yourself. Because once you get in, 99% of the courses you are taking will be heavy science intensive.

    Again, I am not telling you to give up. I am telling you to focus less on getting in and focus more on fixing your habits so you can finish after you get in.

    The programs who are telling you to complete your application are doing you a disservice. It pisses me off to hear them egging you on without giving you honest and genuine advice.
     
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    I do know that conditional acceptance upon a higher MCAT score has been documented in the past, but that was post-II, so I’m not sure about pre-II. If you did retake your MCAT, you would need a well above average score to gain attention. AZPOD and Temple will auto-screen you right now, that I am sure. I understand that you want to get the ball rolling since you already graduated, but being patient and delaying gratification goes a long way in medicine. I do believe that most MS programs are two years, unless they are one year Special Masters Programs (SMPs) that are used to get into MD/DO programs, so you’re going to spend at least a year remediating your transcript. I know @Weirdy completed an MS, so he could maybe give you some insight on that matter. Sorry if I didn’t give you answers you needed, but definitely keep posting until you get them!
     
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    @Weirdy Thanks for the honest comment. I know the advice is to make sure I succeed in the long run.
    So I actually already retook the classes I did poorly in and made a B or higher. I should have mentioned that in the original post. I retook all prerequisite courses I did not pass with the exception of two courses which were not prereqs for pod school. However due to no grade replacement my gpa is still a 2.6. This is why I am hesitant about a diy postbac because I already just now took a semester of classes and have retook courses. I have not enrolled in classes for the next semester.
    KCU ms biomedical science grad program doesn’t show a 3.0 prereq but passing of prereq courses is needed which I have. I was considering applying there and any other masters program with a similar requirement. What is your opinion?
     
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    @justici yes my goal is to retake and get a higher score. Should I aim for a certain time to have the scores in by before the Fall 2019 cycle closes? I don’t have anything to do in the upcoming months so I can study during that time.
    I’ll consider what you mentioned about the MS programs. Still trying to see whether I should apply for a one year MS now or do DIY postbac.
     
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    Hi guys,
    I am new member so would you mind if i have question about application. I am junior in Biology major now but maybe graduate in winter 2019and plan to take Mcat next year before summer. So I am ok to apply podiatry school in fall 2019 before I graduate . Thank you
     
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    Yes, you will be ok if you will have your app ready.
     
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    1. How many credits total you have so far in cGPA and sGPA?

    *** At this point it is not about raising your GPA but showing that you now is not you of before. You have to show admissions and yourself that you can handle med school curriculum.

    2. What is your GPA for last 30 or 40 credits?

    3. How many classes have you taken as a DIY post bacc?

    4. I would highly advise against applying now before you improve your studying strategies.

    5. I would highly suggest doing at least 1 year of DIY post bacc or Masters of Anatomy or other sciences that have curriculum similar to med school. Most DO schools should have Masters of some sort. The downside is that your stats are low for most of them to even consider you.

    The other option is to do your own post bacc where you can take any classes you want as a non-degree student.

    You need to take 3-4 classes of higher sciences and ace them. Then retake your MCAT.

    6. Even if you get accepted now to some school, I think you are at high risk of failing out.

    7. You can do it, but there is some constructive time work to do. Use resources at your school and resources to study for MCAT.
     
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    Thank you so much. So any C grade will affect our application or not. I am just asking in case bc I have no C now
     
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    Cs make your GPA low.

    Less Cs = better GPA = higher chance.

    I had a few Cs and still got invites. Not the end of the world.
     
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