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  1. tinker_rebel

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    I had my interview today, 2/14, and I have to say I am in love. I love the school and I desperately want to go. My interviews were ok, nothing bad, but I don't know if they went well enough to push me into an acceptance. Who else interviewed today, or who else just loves this school? I don't hear much about it on sdn but it is impressive, flat out. If I don't get accepted, if I get deferred, I'm sending a letter of intent ASAP.
     
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    I interviewed there a couple months ago, I also work in the med center right now. Don't be swept off your feet by the nice shiny new buildings and the research money that they brag about. I applied there because it was close to home and because I have friends there already. However, once they told me how miserable they were at OSU I quickly changed my mind. The student health insurance that they offer is abysmal, they short-change you on living expenses during every fall quarter (4.5 months long as opposed to 3 but you still get the same amount as a living stipend). Also, if you want to be seen as a person instead of a number I would suggest looking at smaller schools. The have one program where you are classroom taught and one program where you teach yourself, however, each program pays the same amount for tuition and expenses (kind of ridiculous if you think about it).

    I'm not saying that its a bad school, it isn't, but it has many shortcomings associated with it. Just be careful about falling in love with a school that tries very hard to fill up it's appr. 180 person med class by showing you everything that you think you want.
     
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    Hi, can you possibly elaborate on why your friends are miserable there? Aside from the health insurance and money issue. I think many premeds here considering OSU would appreciate getting a well-rounded look at the school, warts and all. Thanks.
     
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    Yeah, I thought it was awesome. They do warn you about the fact that you receive less in Fall so that you are prepared at least. That would suck otherwise. Everyone was so nice and cool. I don't know, I agree with the OP and am excited about going there. It's funny that you say they have abysmal health insurance because for me any would be good because I have none.

    Yeah, it is funny that you don't hear a lot about the school here on SDN.
     
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    I interviewed in January and a faculty member tried to say the health insurance was good. I also liked the school a lot but was deferred so I guess I might not have to worry about that. Does anyone know about someones chances after getting deferred?
     
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    Ladyfingers, I totally agree. I loved it and as of right now that is where I am headed. Ditto on the health insurance, I paid out of pocket recently and it was not pretty.

    Interesting critique as I made it a point to speak to random students who all unequivocally liked the school. In fact the only critiques I got from them were to watch the budgeting and be ready for the cold. Otherwise, they were eager to show me around and even take me to meet their favorite professor.

    Yeah its a bigger class, but once the independent group breaks off, it'll be comparable to the average sized class.
     
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    Ditto. The peeps there were so cool and relaxed even for a honors/high pass/pass grading system . Still loved the school. I am planning on going there unless i get accepted at my top school which i should get an acceptacne/rejection within the next week.

    So i may see you guys there!:D:thumbup:
     
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    I interviewed on 2/14 as well and am kind of undecided how i felt about the school. I was late so i missed alot of all the information. maybe i'll have to take a second look? Does anyone see any major pros/cons to the school other then the health insurance?
     
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    I interviewed in November and I was very impressed with the school. I'm still on the fence between attending OSU or Wayne State, my state school (mainly for financial reasons), so any pros/cons from current students would be helpful! I'm definitely planning on going to the second look day before deciding.

    Does anyone know where most OSU med students live and when/how they find roommates and sign leases?
     
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    Im in the same situation - OSU vs Wayne. Any information would be greatly appreciated!
     
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    Out of curiosity which guy were you? 2 of you were late, and I spoke with one of you. If you'd prefer not to say that's ok too lol.
     
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    I'm the indian guy that came from michigan. I'm pretty sure that i was the last one to arrive. I'm also in the wayne vs. OSU (if i'm lucky enough to get in) debate anyone have pro/con thoughts?
     
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    seriously, don't listen to polofan. they have no problem filling up their class. sounds more like a student trying to get people to look elsewhere so s/he can attend.
     
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    Let me reiterate, I think OSU is a very good school, i'm not telling you to not go, I interviewed there and decided it wasn't for me. However, I think it's important to look at the whole picture "warts and all" when looking at a school. Yes the campus is getting an extreme overhaul. But, most med students will not set foot in the BRT building (the new research tower), or unless their preceptorship takes them there; into the Ross Heart Hospital. I know of many people who like it here, but my closest two friends that go here are not happy with the program. One of them has a chronic illness, as a result she has many formulary scripts, and burns through her student insurance budget in just over 6 months, so she is miserable because she feels like the school doesn't care about individual student well being (her well being). She has also said that the individual study modules are extremely outdated, neuroscience being the worst, nearly 10 years without any substantial changes. My other friend feels that they teach in an outdated style, basically he has said that at other smaller schools, they teach to the boards. At OSU, they teach their way, and the students study for the boards their own way (similar to the way that you would take classes during undergrad to learn what was on the MCAT, but no class taught you to take the MCAT).

    Also, of course they don't have a problem filling up their class, does any med school? This is not meant as a shot at DO's, but if MD schools had trouble filling up their med classes would their be new DO schools popping up all over the US?

    Once again, I AM NOT SAYING THAT OSU IS NOT A GOOD SCHOOL, FAR FROM IT, I AM MERELY ACTING AS A DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, MAKE SURE THAT YOU LEARN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ABOUT THE MEDICAL SCHOOL BEFORE DECIDING IT IS DEFINATELY THE ONE FOR YOU.

    I am also not trying to change anybody's opinion so that "I can slide in", I interviewed, was offered a spot, and decided it was not where I wanted to go. I went to OSU for undergrad and besides wanted a change of scenary I didn't want to get tied up with another huge program where I felt like a number and not a name (I also went to Purdue).

    I apologize if my post seemed hateful or full of anger toward the school, that is not the case, but I don't want to see any of us future doctors end up somewhere we regret because we were swept off of our feet at the interviews. Thank you and if I offended anyone I apologize.
     
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    Nope, I talked to the other guy. No wonder you were late, that drive was hell. I made it the night before from Davison (near Flint) and was lucky enough to get there before the freezing rain but not before the snow :( I'm also holding a Wayne acceptance as well (I'm from MI too). I think for me the biggest pro for Wayne is the 20,000 difference in price a year and not having to take out any private loans to help cover the cost. However, OSU does offer the in state tuition after a year, but it is still quite expensive. Both schools have a large class, which I like. I'm not a fan of high school, unfortunately everyone says med school is more like that then college, but with a bigger class it may be less so. I like OSU's curriculum better. I don't like learning subjects for all of the organ systems seperately. I think learning everything about an organ makes more sense. The integrated path does some pbl and learns things by systems. You learn all the stuff about the heart, then all the stuff about the lung, etc. The independent path does systems too, but 1st year you learn all the normal systems, then 2nd year you learn abnormalities in the systems. The 2 choices also make the program flexible.
    Wayne has some amazing clinical experiences available through the DMC. Pediatric neurology/oncology there is superb and that is what I'm thinking I want to do. Also, call me a bleeding heart, but I really do want to help some underserved people and anyone who looks around Detroit knows there are plenty of opportunities in that area. Hoever, Columbus is no rural area. There will be lots of things to see and they also have the James Cancer Hospital. I just don't think their pediatrics is as strong as Wayne, but then they (OSU)said something like 95% of people match into one of their top 3 residency choices. Only about 49% go into primary care.
    Let's hope we both get a choice. Let me know what happens.:luck:
     
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    polofan, totally appreciate your input, i just want to say that a lot of the more "prestigious" schools claim to not "teach to the boards". i wouldn't personally count not teaching to the boards as a downfall of a school's curriculum. i prefer a school that cares about board performance but also tries to have a unique, thorough curriculum. what you said about outdated material is a bit concerning though...

    anyhow, my cousin who is a radiologist in dayton OH, who did not go to OSU says he really respects the school and thinks it makes great doctors.
     
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    I think so too, like I said, I think they are a good school, just research good and bad about schools before making a choice.

    On another note, thank you for responding in a civil manner. I get tired of the "if you don't agree with me, then you must just want to go there and you didn't get in" crap. More people need to realize that just because someone may not agree with you, that doesn't mean that they do not raise valid points.

    I also hear what your saying about teaching to the boards, I like schools that at least touch on the subject of how to take them. I'm a good test taker but I want to really knock them out of the park, i'm sure you can all relate.
     
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    Hi -

    I'm a second year med student at Ohio State. Do your research and go to whatever school you will be happiest at. Most schools will try and show you only their best side at interviews. ALL schools have warts, things students hate, and students that end up disliking their school. Some of the people I know who wish they hadn't gone to OSU would probably be miserable at any school (they are just those type of people), but I'm sure a few would have been happier elsewhere.

    In general, I like Ohio State. Sure, there are things I dislike. However, I tend to think that some of the things that annoy me most would be found at ANY med school. Most schools, irregardless of the size, are mired in bureacracy. Change is exceedingly slow. In talking to a friend who is now a MUO graduate, many of the things that I complained about as being negatives to OSU were things that she felt were the worst about MUO.

    I have had student health insurance in the past and thought it was excellent - all visits at the Student Health Center are free, co-pays on scripts are reasonable, any tests done at the SHC are free, anything done outside the SHC is 90/10. I was referred to a specialist for an outpatient procedure, visited the emergency room, and was overall very pleased with it. However, I know people who have had problems. Some, like the person mentioned above, have chronic health conditions and quickly exceed the dollar limit that the plan will pay for scripts, etc. If you have a family, the Student Health Insurance doesn't seem to be the best option. Student in third year rotations find it very difficult to get health care (they don't get out of rotations until the SHC is closed) and the plan doesn't allow them to pick up scripts at the hospital pharmacy. Admin is working on fixing the later problem. Some students have found it cheaper to pay for their own health insurance (I saw a quote from Blue Cross/Blue Shield that wasn't bad). So - do your research there, as well. You don't have to buy student health insurance - you just have to have health insurance.

    Polo is right - most of you will never set foot in the new research building. (I doubt I will). One of my preceptorships WAS in the Ross, so I did spend time there. :)

    As for feeling like a number . . . I think that it is up to you as an individual. I have found the vast majority of the professors and administration to be very approachable and friendly. If you choose not to make contacts with people, then I'm sure it can be very easy to feel like no one knows you/cares about you. Both the past and current dean hold "open houses" where any student can come talk to them at any time. Most students never take advantage of them. (I went to one and the secretary was shocked that someone actually showed up!) I have met with all of the deans for various reasons, and I would not hesitate at all to go speak to any of them if I had an issue I felt they could help with - school related or personal. We have our own financial aid office, so most of us never have to deal with that hell known as the main financial aid office, and the new FA staff is pretty good.

    The class size is managable. You quickly get to know people in anatomy lab, and everyone has small groups for patient centered medicine. I feel like I recognize most of my classmates, at least, even if I don't know them well. Even in IP (the lecture pathway), there are people who never come to class and and you won't see all that often.

    Polo - I don't blame you at all for wanting to go somewhere besides OSU. Personally, I am amazed at the number of faculty who did undergrad, med school and residency all at Ohio State. I would want to go to some different places and see how things are done elsewhere in the world. I'm not opposed to ending up at OSU for residency, but ideally, I want to go to a different program.

    To recap, go wherever you think you will be happiest. Take things with a grain of salt . . . no school is either as wonderful or as bad as some people would lead you to believe. Good luck to all of you no matter where you end up. If you have questions about OSU, PM me or feel free to ask on the OSU Class of 2010 thread in the Allo sub forum.
     
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    If i interviewed on 2/14 when will they let me know. Within 10 days will they let me know if i'm in/waitlisted/rejected? thanks.
     
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    Well, they told us that it would be 10 to 14 days after 2/14. They basically decided on us right after interivews, the adcom went into that room we were sitting in and talked about us. Just curious, anyone who interview here have "easy" interviews? I'm just nervous that both of my interviews were basically conversational, almost no questions really, and no ethics questions at all.
     
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    i found out from osu 3 days after my interview. good luck!
     
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    I found out 5 days after my interview. My interviews were both very conversational as well. I only had one ethics question and my faculty interviewer let me pick the topic, which made it much less stressful. My student interviewer only asked me a couple of questions and then we spent the rest of the time chatting about the school. Don't worry about your interview being "easy"...I would take that as a good thing! Good luck, hopefully you'll get some good news soon!
     
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    Just waiting to hear a response from OSU. It would be great if anyone who interviewed on 2/14 would Post something if you hear from the school. Thanks!
     
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    Yea, I'm waiting too. Anyone hear anything back from the 2/14 interivew yet? My status changed to interviewed or something but that was it.
    I'm getting nervous, please please please let me in.
     
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    10 business days means 10 business days yo. take a chill pill.
     
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    i feel you tinker_rebel. i'm getting increasingly excited about finding out. Well if they stay true to the ten bussiness days thing we should know by wed. Good luck.
     
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    Well I found out that I was deferred today.:( Boo, but I guess it is better than being rejected. I guess it is time for a Letter of Intent and some serious hoping that I either get accepted or put on the waitlist.
     
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    Sorry to hear about your deferment. Hopefully we both end up getting in by the end.
     
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    I was just deffered too. Kinda sucks, but i guess that is life.
     
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    OO i forgot to ask does anyone know how bad being defered is in regards to OSU?
     
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    DoctorNick, bhattnea, I hope all three of us make it in! I'm praying for a mass exodus of accepted people lol. Is there any point of sending a letter of intent now or waiting until (and if) I make it on the official waitlist?

    Bhattnea, I read somewhere that it just depends on the year if being deferred is ok or a no man's land of hope. Last year there was hardly any movement and another year a lot of people came off the list. Also, the whole deferred thing is only until they establish a waitlist. I think they compare us to everyone who interviews until March 14. Supposedly we can be rejected or accepted anytime till then. Then they decide who makes it on the waitlist that they form around May. I think, I may be wrong.

    Does anyone else have any opinions on being deferred? I am pretty bummed right now. I know this process is hard, I didn't expect a cakewalk, but this was something that was important to me. I felt like I could be comfortable at this school, and I know that is important.
     
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    take it for what its worth, but i heard that osu typically takes who they want for sure right off the bat, and most get lumped into the deferred. Supposedly quite a few get accepted off the deferred list, but from what i've seen for other schools that kind of statement can be a crapshoot. the main solace is that they have a pretty sizeable class and overall a good percent who interview get in eventually.
     
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    I cannot corroborate this, but a kid who interviewed at OSU this year that I met at an interview at another school (convoluted, I know) told me that last year, OSU ended up not filling up its class because the only people left would have brought down their MCAT and gpa averages.

    As I said, I cannot confirm that, but it's out there in the rumor mill.

    Anyone with other info?
     
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    Darksmurf, if that is true that is messed up, but such is life I guess. I would bring down their MCAT average but would raise the gpa average so who knows where I would stand in that situation if it is true.
     
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    This is kind of off-topic, but did anyone else that interviewed at OSU (before January) get a Christmas card from the admissions office? I was deferred in December, by the way.
     
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    Yeah I got the Christmas card too. But I had been accepted in October.
     
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    Same here. I was accepted Oct 15th and also received a card.:D
     
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    So are people planning on going to the second look? Is it going to be useful at all? On the agenda it says we'll get a bunch of presentations in the morning, then lunch and a long tour. I thought there would be more to it...
     
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    Yeah, the agenda doesn't sounds like it's worth the $300 it would cost to make a trip to there.
     
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    I don't think I can afford to go to second look day. I really liked the school and will likely be in the upcoming class!

    I too received an xmas card. Very thoughtful.

    That is weird about the not filling up the class thing. I didn't hear that but my friend who also interviewed told me that OSU is trying to up their rank and make the school *better*. Not sure what that all means and to be honest I don't really care. That kind of stuff doesn't matter to me. That would be rather lame if they didn't accept students solely because it would bring their averages down.
     
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    hi,

    i haven't been rejected yet. i spoke to woman at admissions 3 weeks ago ,and she said that since my file is still open, they would likely keep my file open in case there were any march interview cancellations. she also said that i would hear one way or another by march. no word yet.

    i'm going to call again this week, but does anyone know of people who got osu interview invites in March?? thank you
     
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    That is not true at all. Check out the entering class profile for 2006 at http://medicine.osu.edu/sitetool/sites/pdfs/medicinefuturestudentspublic/2006_profile_sheet.pdf. The entering class was 211 - OSU shoots for a class size of around 210.

    I attend OSU and often speak with the admissions staff. Last year they accepted hardly anyone off the waitlist because very few of the people they originally accepted ended up going elsewhere. The year before (my entering class), they accepted nearly half of the people on the waitlist to fill the class.

    To those of you who are "deferred", best wishes! I know the wait is tough.
     

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