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I quit smoking 2.5 years ago and since only smoked occasionally if I was at a bar or party, not much maybe a pack a month. After I received my third preinterview rejection shortly after new years, I started smoking again. I now smoke like a fiend and smoke more cigarettes a day now, than I ever have before. I am smoking right now as write this.
Anybody else who smokes, are you smoking more, again or have you started b/c of applying to med school?
 
yes, i am an addict too. i've been smoking close to 1 PPD for 4 years now. i know, my poor lungs. i've tried to quit many times with longest period of abstinence at 8 months.

i *thought* i would quit once i got accepted, e.g. no more stress, but i'm still going strong. now, i'm telling myself that i'll quit once i start med school in the fall. i hope i will. running around to corners to have a smoke so that no one will see me (like i had to do at interviews) is not something i'd like to do every hour or two in med school.

zyban here i come...

joe joe
 
I used to smoke. I picked it up as a bad social habit. I quit when I was about to leave for 6 months in the third world and knew I would need to be as fit as possible to undertake the work I was going to do. Since then I've been tempted to have "just one" on many occasions. It's not a result of nicotine addiction as that is long over (it's now years ago since I smoked), but a psychological prop which I turn to when stressed. However, I always resist that "one" cigarette, even at the worst of times, specifically because I know stress will come again, and if I give in to it, that one cigarette will turn into two, into three, into a habit again. It's a slippery slope...
 
Originally posted by the boy wonder
I used to smoke. I picked it up as a bad social habit. I quit when I was about to leave for 6 months in the third world and knew I would need to be as fit as possible to undertake the work I was going to do. Since then I've been tempted to have "just one" on many occasions. It's not a result of nicotine addiction as that is long over (it's now years ago since I smoked), but a psychological prop which I turn to when stressed. However, I always resist that "one" cigarette, even at the worst of times, specifically because I know stress will come again, and if I give in to it, that one cigarette will turn into two, into three, into a habit again. It's a slippery slope...

😱 shame on you, boy wonder 😛

i haven't smoked a cigarette since december 31, 2000 and i plan to never smoke one again (unless i get really trashed or something) 😉
 
Originally posted by lola
😱 shame on you, boy wonder 😛

i haven't smoked a cigarette since december 31, 2000 and i plan to never smoke one again (unless i get really trashed or something) 😉

I think I have you beat - I haven't smoked a cigarette since June 10th 1994.

I assume from the date yours was a new years resolution...
 
yeah, you have me beat, but i never would have considered myself a smoker b/c i only smoked on occasion -- like when drunk or bored and never more than like 3/day.
 
What does everyone think about hypnotherapy for curing smoking? I am personally skeptical about it (I'm a non-smoker BTW), but some people I know can't stop saying good things about the results.

Obviously there's no science about it (yet), but it's seems like a potential way of inhibiting those long term cravings some of you mention.
 
Originally posted by the boy wonder
However, I always resist that "one" cigarette, even at the worst of times, specifically because I know stress will come again, and if I give in to it, that one cigarette will turn into two, into three, into a habit again. It's a slippery slope...

Right on, BW. Resist, resist, resist that temptation to have "just one." That's how many people get addicted again. More power to you.
 
I started 5 years agi when I graduated hs. I totally fell into the peer pressure thing and probably idd it because I wanted to be cooler like my friends. Big mistake. Coming from a household where my father smoked for 25 years I definitely have the inclination to do so as well. From tat first drag I was hooked on the buzz. I only occasionally smoked for my first year of college (like when i went out) but once my second year of school kicked in i went full blown addict. I never really admitted it myself until after I graduated but now that I am out of college and into school I have tried pretty hard to stop. I have done the best to limt myself during the week and stopped for 3 weeks before 2 weeks ago. I smoked a whole the last time i went out and since saturday night all i can think about when I am bored is how great a cig would feel. I know it's totally a battle in my psyche but right now I feel like the little red devil on my left shoulder is gonna win...
 
On the subject of quitting smoking... My boyfriend used to smoke at least a pack a day, and about 4 packs per weekends if we all went out. Previous to dating, we were close friends and we would all go to him for our nicotine fix if we were only "social' smokers. About six months ago, a few weeks into dating, we were driving and he was smoking. I could not stand to be confined in a car while he puffed away. Not to say that I was against smoking because I do when I go out, but man, I felt like he was killing me indirectly with that smoke and I could only imagine what it was doing directly to him. So I sort of approached it in a sense that... the more cigarettes he smokes, the less time in the end we'll be able to spend together and quite possibly, the less time he'd have to see his children grow up (it was a far shot, but I tried). I dont know, I'm sure he's heard all that before, all the campaigning that cigarettes kill... but for some reason, it hit him realistically. He broke his pack in half and has not smoked since. I was amazed. In fact, I am the guilty one going for a cigarette at the bars. He's been so strong but everyone is different In this instance, he needed a realistic approach and it worked, mainly I believe, because he had come to a point in life where for the first time he saw the possible outcome and got scared.

I'm sorry, I thought I'd share how he quit, because I have honestly found it inspiring.🙂
 
for some reason, when im drunk, i go get myself a pack of cloves and start smoking maybe like 2 or 3 ... i never really get addicted though.. like if you gave me a cigarette or a clove to smoke when i sober, i wouldn't be interested, also, when im with friends who smoke, i might smoke one, but that's it...

plus, i hate to smell like smoke during normal weekdays and that keeps me from smoking... but im afraid it's going to turn into a habit... and worried an addiction might strike me one day

also, are cloves worse than cigarettes? what about cigars? i love walking into a cigar store.. mmmmm
 
reading this thread makes me want to light up a cigarette. I quit smoking 6 months ago and smoked for 5 years. I was never a heavy smoker though; the max I smoked was around 10/day. I started working for a doctor and he convinced me to quit smoking and put me on Zyban to help me out. It worked.

I still have the cravings though, especially when I'm stressed or when I'm out drinking/partying. I caved in to the craving a couple of times when I was out driking and partying with friends; but only had one cigarette each time. I regretted it but it was sooooo good!

I hope the cravings will stop someday. I'm afraid that there will be a time when I won't be able to have enough self-discipline to stop myself from becoming a smoker again.
 
Originally posted by jennb

I hope the cravings will stop someday

I don't think the psychological ones ever do...after all I still crave it when I'm stressed and it's been almost 9 years!! I think it's just associated in my mind too strongly with a self-indulgent form of relaxation 🙁

oh well, I still don't think I will ever smoke again 😉
 
Okay, I'm a bit embarrassed posting this since a while back I had posted a reply about how I had quit smoking . . .

But I started smoking again in December, right when I was most stressed out about applications (and a bunch of personal things going on on top of that). I smoked until this week, when I quit again (it's been four days now).

I think that the psychological cravings are much more real and difficult to deal with for me than the physical. Whenever I'm stressed, all I can think about is how good one cigarette would feel. But as somebody else mentioned, the whole trick is to not give in to that first smoke. Slippery slope, indeed.

I have a friend who's father quit smoking decades ago. He told me that whenever he's stressed and he catches a whiff of cigarette smoke, he still gets cravings.

It's a long battle everyone. Good luck to you. Keeping my fingers crossed for you all who are trying to quit. It sucks, doesn't it?
 
Actually reading this is confirming for me that I am glad I made the decision to quit smoking. I used to smoke easily a pack a day then one day I didn't feel like smoking and the next day I didn't feel like smoking again. So then after a week I decided to make a conscience effort not to smoke again.

I really liked what fullofhope said.

I have never been able to get into cloves. They hurt my throat too much to smoke them and then the morning after it feels like someone has put bags of lead over my lungs. But I do like the way they make my lips taste.
 
Being that I have never smoked, I wonder what it is about cigarettes, aside from the nicotine, that is so addictive? I mean I understand the feeling of being drunk or high, but is there a "feeling" associated with smoking even after you have been doing it for years? Or is it just something that is constant and therefore comforting?
 
Thanks Mega!!

I do not post often, but I think quitting is a serious issue, especially when you consider the people you may be affecting. More importantly, affecting the people whom you love and love you.

I am glad my post helped someone.:clap:
 
Originally posted by MDHopeful1880
Being that I have never smoked, I wonder what it is about cigarettes, aside from the nicotine, that is so addictive? I mean I understand the feeling of being drunk or high, but is there a "feeling" associated with smoking even after you have been doing it for years? Or is it just something that is constant and therefore comforting?

Besides the physical addiction to nicotine, smoking becomes a habit, something you regularly while doing other things or before or after doing something, for eg: the old cliche of after sex, or while you're on the phone, or after smoking weed, or while drinking. It just becomes part of your routine and you reach for a butt out of habit. The nicotine buzz wears off after just a few days of constant smoking.
 
I've never smoked but my mom did for 20 years about a PPD, and what said that the psychological addiction is what was most powerful, but what helped her when she finally quit is to always have something like a lollipop or cinnomon stick around her. Its good to have something like that to stick in your mouth during times of stress, I suppose there are other things to stick in your mouth too, Im sure others will have other suggestions but I wont go there.
 
Originally posted by Mike59
What does everyone think about hypnotherapy for curing smoking? I am personally skeptical about it (I'm a non-smoker BTW), but some people I know can't stop saying good things about the results.

Obviously there's no science about it (yet), but it's seems like a potential way of inhibiting those long term cravings some of you mention.

i was extremely skeptical..but my mother wanted to try it and i went with her. i have smoked on and off (mostly off) for 9 years. i have quit for two years at a time..twice...once cold turkey...once with the patch. i went to the session and i haven't had a desire to smoke since. i was already in the mindset to quite though. its been two months and i quit just after new years, jan 7.

i have never quit with so much ease. i've been out drinking...even completely trashed...and around close friends who smoke while drinking (usually drinking and friends are the straws that break the camel's back)...no cravings.

try it yo'self. also, i believe there is some science behind it. it takes you to a state or relaxation where you are more receptive to suggestions...there is some sensory overload invovled...strobes, music, heated blanket, soft speaking, encouragment..etc.
 
hey all -
just wanted to offer a few observations and a bit of advice. I do nicotine research, and see patients in a county medical center's Tobacco Dependence Clinic.

- Nicotine is incredibly addictive. With drugs of abuse the speed with which they enter the brain is often the key determinant to how addictive they are. Chewing on coca leaves isn't very addictive, but snorting or smoking cocaine sure is. Nicotine from a cigarette gets to the brain incredibly quickly - 3-5 seconds is the estimate I hear thrown around a lot. And there's some evidence now (the tobacco industry new about this for a while, but non-industry scientists are just figuring this out now) that aldehyde in cigarettes (produced from burning sugar) makes nicotine more addictive in juveniles.

- Nicotine is harder to give up than other drugs. In the clinic I've seen a handfull of people, and have been told about dozens of others, who have been addicted to many drugs (crack, methamphetamine, alcohol, marijuana, heroine, and nicotine), and they consistently say that giving up cigarettes is the hardest drug to give up.

-Effective treatments are available. There are many forms of nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) available now, in addition to buproprion (AKA Zyban, AKA Wellbutrin). Generally, each type doubles your chance of quitting. For those whom NRT and buproprion is not appropriate, there are second line medications as well.

-A comprehensive tobacco dependence program is the most effective. Seeing a health care provider (usually a doctor or a nurse supervised by a doc in a tobacco dependence clinic) who specializes in treating smokers is best. These people know how to best use the medications and can offer the best advice. What is listed in the package insert or smoking meds or said on TV is often not the whole truth. For example, the typical dosages of NRT given usually produces nicotine levels way below average venous plasma concentrations, thus requiring more intense use than often typically recommended in package inserts (for example, you'd need to chew more gum or use much more of the inhaler), or use multiple forms of NRT , and often a continuous med combined with an as needed med, such as the patch or buproprion combined with the gum/inhaler/nasal spray/lozenge. Also, the "step down" programs generally don't work very well from what I've seen, people who are put on relatively high levels of NRT naturally taper themselves off. Other than a few individuals with severe schizophrenia, I've never seen anyone have trouble quitting NRT.


-Behavioral things are way more effective than any sort of medication or counseling. People who live with annother smoker who smokes inside, people who go to smoky bars, people who hang around others who are smoking, etc, are at a great disadvantage. I wouldn't want a cocaine addict hanging around people who are using and smelling their cocaine, just as I wouldn't want an ex-smoker around smoke. If you want to quit, it helps greatly to avoid smoke. Unfortunately, you may have to avoid certain situations and ask friends to not smoke around you, though in my experience this isn't nearly as hard as it seems.

I hope I didn't sound too preachy.

If anybody wants more of my opinion, feel free to ask here if you're comfortable doing so, otherwise you can always PM me.
 
well...my old habit isn't smoking, but eating. I lost about 20lbs at the end of high school and actually managed to keep it off for the first three years of college. Then medical school interviews began and I gained back like half of that. Being on the road all the time makes it really hard to eat healthy, esp. when you're on a tight budget and fast food is so cheap. Plus when you're waiting around at airports, seems like buying candy, gum, chips, etc, is all there is to do. Just wondering if any one else had this experience...weight gain because of interviewing. All the stress probably made me eat more too.
 
I smoked socially before I went to Spain - but there everyone does, everywhere, and the cigs are stronger - they seem to be where the us tobacco industry was 20 years ago - putting things into cigs to make them more addictive. I smoked constantly there. Back home I have been trying to stop - and go a month, and smoke - then quit few weeks, but I always seem to come back for "just one". Crappy, but when i am stressed or drinking - I like it. But I hate it at the same time, for what it is doing to my body and my mind.
 
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