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What is the oldest med stdent you have known or heard of?
Just curious!
Just curious!
DMBFan61 said:Used to work at best buy (in computers) and i sold a laptop to a woman who was a 42yr old MS1
AlexOt3 said:oldest med student was someone admitted in their late 60s i believe...look it up, he graduated at 72(?)
Whoever finds that...it is in a medical school help book somewhere...
fonzy said:What is the oldest med stdent you have known or heard of?
Just curious!
flighterdoc said:I'm planning on starting next year at 49.
Not planning on a long residency, though
AlexOt3 said:oldest med student was someone admitted in their late 60s i believe...look it up, he graduated at 72(?)
Whoever finds that...it is in a medical school help book somewhere...
Amy B said:All older, and/or nontraditional premeds and med students.....don't forget to check out http://www.oldpremeds.org They also have great forums. YOu have to register to get access to all the forums but that is fast and free. Oh and I heard from an admissions dean the oldest student she knew was in her late 60's.
DMBFan61 said:Used to work at best buy (in computers) and i sold a laptop to a woman who was a 42yr old MS1
Spitting Camel said:What, are you on a committee or something? You sound like a public sevice announcement...
DireWolf said:You will rue the day that you mock Amy B. She has no mercy. I know from experience.
flighterdoc said:I'm planning on starting next year at 49.
Not planning on a long residency, though
flight, are you really 49? Coz if you are, i gotta give you props.flighterdoc said:I'm planning on starting next year at 49.
Not planning on a long residency, though
TPBC said:There was a gal that started at either St. George's or Ross at 57 and became board certified in FP at age 64. Also, a guy was accepted at USF 6 or 7 years ago at age 53 and graduated.
Plus, people are living longer than ever these days. There's no reason someone couldn't practice until into their 80's, assuming no mental deterioration, of course.AlexOt3 said:it's a dream, they fulfilled it, even at age 60+ and no one can take that away. i think that's easy to understand.
Auricae said:...Why not just read medical text books instead of spending all that money and time for a degree...
AlexOt3 said:it's a dream, they fulfilled it, even at age 60+ and no one can take that away. i think that's easy to understand.
Auricae said:If you are only certified when you are 64, that leaves you how many years to practice?Well my mom is 74 and still practicing, so possibly 10 years. Plus what do you call this woman at the age of 61 as a first year resident? "Doctor"
Even a resident is practicing their craft, especially in FP. So possibly 13 years or more. Not bad at all. What else is she going to do? Take up knitting? Learn how to play golf?
UCdannyLA said:Age isn't anything but a number.
I'm 20.
but all you fellow young'ns talk like you guys are certain you will be living in to your late 70s or 80s, giving you 50 years of practice, and thus making a great positive impact on society.
Well that's not reality.
The truth is, you could lose your life the day you graduate from medical school...and not practice medicine for a minute of your life.
So you can't really worry about things like the length of time you will be able to live out your dream (in this case, practicing medicine). Because, if it truly is your dream, then even practicing medicine for one day...or having one person call you "doctor"...or being able to make ONE person feel better...would make it all worthwhile.
UCdannyLA said:Age isn't anything but a number.
I'm 20.
but all you fellow young'ns talk like you guys are certain you will be living in to your late 70s or 80s, giving you 50 years of practice, and thus making a great positive impact on society.
Well that's not reality.
The truth is, you could lose your life the day you graduate from medical school...and not practice medicine for a minute of your life.
So you can't really worry about things like the length of time you will be able to live out your dream (in this case, practicing medicine). Because, if it truly is your dream, then even practicing medicine for one day...or having one person call you "doctor"...or being able to make ONE person feel better...would make it all worthwhile.
Auricae said:I think the people on this board put far too much weight into the title "doctor." The person you described above does not need a medical degree to help a person. Just look around you if you need evidence. What makes a doctor helping another person so much more special than a social worker or a teacher? I think people inflate the value of doctor's and neglect the importance of helping their fellow men in other ways. Simply put, that person could spend those years helping hundreds of other people, and probably make a bigger impact.
Of course it is possible that us young people could die the day we get our degree and never practice. But you are using idealistic instead of realistic situations to prove your point. The fact is, we are MUCH less likely to die than a 64 year old is, in the next 10 years. We base our decisions on the most likely outcomes, not on outlying extremes. The 20 year old goes into medicine assuming that he will have a decent amount of time to practice. The 64 year old, unless he is out of touch with reality, goes into medicine knowing he will not be able to practice for long.
If you were a 20 year old premed with a terminal illness (going to die in a decade or so), would you still be pre-med? Perhaps you would. I think the majority of us would find it a better use of our time, however, to directly help people in those 10 years than to spend 7 of them getting a degree and only 3 of them helping others as a "doctor."
You are using very idealistic rhetoric that is hard to argue against. However, I would choose in a second to be a teacher or a social worker for 7 years, and help hundreds, than to be a "doctor" and help just a few people.
I'm not claiming to be "right," but I do think I am more practical and less idealistic. And in terms of my goal of helping people, I think my philosophy is even more idealistic, in that it aims to help the most people, regardless of whatever "title" you attach to the person.
Auricae said:I think the people on this board put far too much weight into the title "doctor." The person you described above does not need a medical degree to help a person. Just look around you if you need evidence. What makes a doctor helping another person so much more special than a social worker or a teacher? I think people inflate the value of doctor's and neglect the importance of helping their fellow men in other ways. Simply put, that person could spend those years helping hundreds of other people, and probably make a bigger impact.
Of course it is possible that us young people could die the day we get our degree and never practice. But you are using idealistic instead of realistic situations to prove your point. The fact is, we are MUCH less likely to die than a 64 year old is, in the next 10 years. We base our decisions on the most likely outcomes, not on outlying extremes. The 20 year old goes into medicine assuming that he will have a decent amount of time to practice. The 64 year old, unless he is out of touch with reality, goes into medicine knowing he will not be able to practice for long.
If you were a 20 year old premed with a terminal illness (going to die in a decade or so), would you still be pre-med? Perhaps you would. I think the majority of us would find it a better use of our time, however, to directly help people in those 10 years than to spend 7 of them getting a degree and only 3 of them helping others as a "doctor."
You are using very idealistic rhetoric that is hard to argue against. However, I would choose in a second to be a teacher or a social worker for 7 years, and help hundreds, than to be a "doctor" and help just a few people.
I'm not claiming to be "right," but I do think I am more practical and less idealistic. And in terms of my goal of helping people, I think my philosophy is even more idealistic, in that it aims to help the most people, regardless of whatever "title" you attach to the person.
UCdannyLA said:You'll never get anything done in life if you think and worry about all the limitations.
Death is not something to fear, rather, life is something to love.
Don't let the idea of death dictate your life. Don't look at the limitations, but rather set your eyes on your goal--achieving your dream (if that is becoming a doctor, so be it).
Even if I had a terminal illness, I would still go after my dream of becoming a doctor. I would rather die trying than not trying at all. But that's just me.
It's funny how you are equating the elderly to patients with terminal illnesses...talk about whack stereotypes.
And in your opinion, if you would rather be a teacher/social worker for 7 years than a doctor, then I believe that YOU should become a teacher/social worker (assuming that you are pre-med or med right now). Sure you affect many more people as a teacher/social worker than as a doctor, however I believe that is a truly different type of effect. As a doctor, you can directly heal a person--hands on-- both physically AND intellectually/emotionally. There is no other profession in the world that has this kind of amazing effect on a person. It truly is a dream job.
mamadoc said:Auricae, there's just one problem with your reasoning: I wouldn't BE a good teacher or social worker. I would hate the job, I would hate my students/clients, I would hate my life. Would I be helping anyone? Well, maybe on a good day but none of us would be happy about it.
But I CAN be a good doctor. Even as a medical student, I know I have helped people and touched their lives in ways that were meaningful for them - and for me. It is true that I won't be able to practice as long as some (I graduate in - wooo-hooo! - 13 days at age 48), but I like to think that my practice will be of high quality and will maximize my own potential to do good. Someone else can be a good teacher. Someone else can be a good social worker. I can't be good at those, but I can be a good doctor. And those folks who could be good teachers or social workers or whatever, they may not have the skill set to be good doctors. So I'm in the right place, I am sure of it.
UCdannyLA said:Auricae...
I don't think you can simply rationalize the occupation of a doctor to just "helping people." By doing this, you are equating the purpose of a doctor to that of a social worker, an EMT, a volunteer at a homeless shelter, and so forth. Thereby making your theory--that you might as well spend your time "helping people, since that is all doctors do" instead of "wasting" 4 years in medical school--sound legit...however being a doctor entails much more than just "helping people." A doctor serves a significant purpose to society...that differs from that of a social worker, EMT, volunteer, etc. in so many more ways than just the "internal goals" of attaining status and respect.
And since YOU want to become a doctor...I am sure you know that this is true.