My school does constant small assessments, and the OMM faculty are virtually the only on-campus faculty, with the science faculty mostly at a different location. So the OMM people are really the face of the school, and if they get a hint you aren't a True Believer™, they make things hard...almost like getting shut out. So, yeah, it's super annoying but I have to devote some part of active memory to this stuff just to stay in their good graces.
Or just act like you are dumb. Working hard to remember but the material is just so hard that you aren’t understanding it lol
I'm curious why you think not.
Suspend your disbelief, try to learn something useful, remember that you'll be great at palpating things, and that the next three years will pass quickly.
Because it doesn’t matter anymore and is a lot of work lol. They’re too busy moving on with the rest of their life. I used to think your 2nd paragraph would happen but the further along I go the less I am sure. Unless there are enough inferiority complexes to sustain the amount of energy it would require to abolish the DO degree then I don’t see it happening.
I think this too, or physician degrees will eventually become a single DO/MD degree like an MBBS in Europe. Those who go to traditionally DO schools would be pigeonholed into primary care, and those at historically MD schools would be able to do anything else. So basically the same state of affairs we're in now. Just the degree would be the same all around...
which if thats the reality, the is it worth all of that energy? I think it would be much more realistic/fruitful to try and switch OMM to an elective instead of abolishing the entire degree.
Because despite what they may say on the contrary they don’t hold any actual power or control.
I’m sure it’s specialty dependent but do they actually teach omm at residencies that aren’t nmr?
Some FM programs really won't leave you alone about it if you get forced into an O.R. program. One program that I'm familiar with that is OR won't let you opt out of that BS and they aren't even an actual former AOA program so it's even more strange.
This is all very strange. What about like anesthesia, GS, or EM?
Sorry but I have no clue as I don't know anyone at an O.R. program and don't have exposure to them besides an FM or IM program through school. I did interview at an O.R. rads program and asked them straight up if that would involve any of that nonsense and the resident said no so who knows.
Definitely be wary. On the one hand these programs are DO friendly, OTH tho they expect you to do extra ‘osteopathic’ things that md’s dont. To me it would have sucked to be expected to do OMM in clinic all the time. Ironically enough I do more OMM now than I ever did in school or rotations, but really only for other residents and staff, and not for most patients. I’m not cracking any crinkly looking patients as I don’t think the risk is worth it after about 50. Hard to trust the bones of the unhealthy.
Agreed. A lot of Sports med physicians I have worked with who are MD's use a lot of the similar techniques to help their patients. So everything you learn will be useful to some extent. Keep learning.
The DO Krebs cycle
Lol when I was on pediatrics, I did a few days on adolescent clinic. I picked up a scapular dyskinesia in a kid who had a weird back complaint. The attending asked if I was a DO lol.
Meddit is strangely a lot of DOs so I think it's natural that there are more true believers by proportion. Honestly, Meddit is super weird to me regarding DOs though because there are far more insulting comments about DOs on there despite there being more DOs there. It's also wayyyy more woke than SDN which you would think would limit those types of comments by people playing nice.
I think you described r/politics well
Except undergraduate community service can actually help people.
you got me there. excuse me while i go "diagnose" someone's pubic symphysis
damn if opp is the hardest part of your med school i feel sorry for you
I couldn't "fake" OMM the way my classmates could. Before practicals they would have all their diagnoses picked out beforehand, I could not do it and hated OMM even more so for it lol.
some places have a pretty strong osteopathic culture. For example, at my school they inject that stuff into every systems lecture that we have.
That sounds horrible, I'm sorry
Ahhhh, yes, those True Believers. They can do a lot of damage. LMU students have told me of one who uses a plunger to demonstrate "cupping".
we had a plunger too lol, that was a fun lab
They brought out those plungers in the last half of the very last OMM lab we ever had. I saw them getting them out and completely stopped pretending to care. I just left.
