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OMM on Family and Friends?

Discussion in 'Medical Students - DO' started by Dr JPH, Feb 25, 2002.

  1. Dr JPH

    Dr JPH Banned Banned 10+ Year Member

    Feb 4, 2000
    How many DO student out there "practice" their skills on their family and friends?

    I know many DO students who own their own tables, so they must be using them for something. hmmmm... you feel confident enough in what you've learned to try things out on people without the supervision of an instructor present?
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  3. double elle

    double elle Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Oct 11, 2000
    Missouri, USA
    Most certainly!!!

    After only 2 quarters, we've (at KCOM) learned many, MANY manipulation techniques that my family and friends have looked forward to. I even have some previous students (I taught high school) who come by the house if they've been injured in a game or something. It's amazing that we can already do so much stuff this early in the game.
  4. JoshD

    JoshD Member 7+ Year Member

    Oct 24, 2001
    Indianapolis, IN
    Glad to hear that, Double Elle. I think my family is almost, if not more excited, about me learning OMM than I am! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> I can't wait to show off my newly learned skills to my family and friends.
  5. Doc AdamK in 2006

    Doc AdamK in 2006 Now 2 year UB Med Doc 7+ Year Member

    Feb 23, 2002
    Defintely Buffalo
    Just wondered,

    You guys didn't practice on anyone that wasn't your family.

    Wouldn't that jeopardize your chance of becoming a DO if you practiced OMM without a degree.

    Have a great day

    AK :rolleyes:
  6. double elle

    double elle Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Oct 11, 2000
    Missouri, USA

    That really isn't an issue. The skills we learn aren't dangerous. We haven't learned cervical manipulation as of yet. We've already learned lumbar, thoracics, ribs, and the limbs. I was worried about that exact same thing...hurting someone, but it really isn't a big risk. I mean, if you are careless...sure, anything is dangerous. However, we have been taught how to safely carry out the techniques.

    And I don't only practice on family. As I said, my former students come to my house when they are messed up from sports. Sometimes, I can't do anything to help them...but sometimes I can. The very least I can do is help them with some good stretches and muscle techniques I've learned.

    Besides any 'cracking' that may go on...there are dozens of other techniques that we've learned that have no 'cracking' involved, but are just as effective. I have found that some people won't think it's worked if they haven't heard a 'crack', but others are scared of any sort of thrust/pressure on their little bodies. For those people, there are serously...countless ways to treat. There are also many, many, many muscle manipulations we've learned to help relieve pain in people who have problems we can't help with yet. For those people, we can hopefully just make them more comfortable until they can get in to see someone more experienced.

    I hope this clears up your concerns. I am only speaking for myself and my fellow KCOM'ers..I would hope that no one goes renegade and practices things they have not been taught yet.

    Also, we are not taking money or anything...I stress that people are welcome to stop by because I always need to practice. They aren't going to let you touch them if they don't trust you won't do something harmful. I also tell them that I am still learning, and I may not be able to take care of their problem. People have understood completely. From what I have heard from my classmates, this really hasn't been a problem. I think all of us are still way too 'new' at this to try things we haven't been taught.

    Finally, the practice we get in class is on heathy individuals with no real somatic dysfunction. They only way we can really see if the skills are beneficial is to practice on people who really have things wrong with them. Our instructurs stress that we do this.

    If you were in the Kville area, I'd give you a demo!! :)
  7. muonwhiz

    muonwhiz Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    I have practiced OMM on family, friends, neighbors and fellow students. I also am amazed at what you can do for someone after only 2 quarters of med school. I do not really worry about hurting someone because I always start with the most conservative techniques first. When I find something wrong skeletally I always check out the muscles in proximity and usually find all kinds of knots, tender points, Chapman points, etc. I clear these first and use counterstrain. Many times this will clear the problem alone, but if not it makes the manipulation much easier and more comfortable for the patient. I then move through muscle energy, articulatory techniques and HVLA if necessary. I can usually clear the problem without using many techniques as above. My problem is that if I work on a person for a couple of hours to get rid of everything that I find (and I find alot) then I am really tired the next day. Have any of you experienced this? What did you do?
  8. melancholy

    melancholy 1K Member 10+ Year Member

    Nov 19, 2000
    Muonwhiz- I can imagine how tired you'd get if you were able to diagnose and treat a variety of things on each of your "patients". I just know that an aspect of every technique we are taught is being aware of proper ergonomics. It definitely won't do your body too well if you have to treat many patients in a day and you end up having tons of dysfunction in your own body at the end of each day that could compound in the future, you know? I think some of the points they stress also help with the matter of treating patients that may be a lot larger than the physician.. thus needing to maximize the use of the physician's body weight and mechanics to comfortably and efficiently treat the patient.
  9. John DO

    John DO A.T. Still Endowed Chair 7+ Year Member

    Jun 19, 2001
    Tampa Bay, FL
    I am exactly in your boat, LL. At Christmas I was able to take care of lower back pain that my step-sister had experienced for years (and been treated for by MDs) just by doing some OMT and putting a heel lift on her. She has now switched her whole family over to a D.O. Another example, my 2-yr-old had a fever all day yesterday &gt;103.5 with lethargy. Motrin nor Tylenol would get it below 103. We had been giving her water, baths, all the tricks you learn as parents, but nothing would break it. Finally I remembered that I AM a DO student, so I used some OMT (lymphatic pump and splenic pump); just as expected, her temp raised .8 degree, then broke a couple of hours later. Now she still has a low-grade fever, but is playing and seems much more comfortable.

    My wife, however, gets tired of being my guinea pig! Usually she enjoys the OMT, but occasionally I screw up and have to wait a few days to learn to "fix" what I broke! I have fixed her chronic lower back pain that she has had since childbirth, though. For that, she is grateful.

    You know the best practice you can get is on the basketball guys here at KCOM. It seems everyday during season one of them has a sprained ankle . . . last quarter I had to start avoiding some people bc they would ask me to fix their ankle everytime i saw them (NO, not you, "Sidebendthis"). I sprained mine a couple of weeks ago (darn ice) but wouldn't let anyone touch it bc it hurt too bad. Finally, the pain became unbearable (after a week and a half) so I allowed Sidebendthis to work on it, and I was completely AMAZED!!! I mean, I use this OMT stuff on people and I "preach" it to family and friends, but this is the first real time that I had experienced it myself. What a difference!! God bless A.T.!

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