OMSR/ M.D. Program

[larryt]

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After the residents finish their OMSR/ M.D. Program, can they do other stuffs that MDs do ? such as surgery on other part of body? Family practice or internal medicine things ? I know they have to do 1 or 2 yrs general surgery rotation and other medical clinical rotations.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Yah-E is our resident specialist in this area, but those who do the OMS/MD degree would also have to be licensed by a board to do other areas.

For example, if an DDS/MD wanted to do plastics he could, but he'd have to jump through the necessary hoops to practice in that area just as any MD would.

 

[ItsGavinC]

I forgot to say that yes, you can practice whatever you want, even FP and medicine, however all of that would kind of negate the process of going to dental school.

 

[DrJeff]

I have a friend who was in a year 6 year OMFS/MD program who "jumped ship" after his med school years and applied to and was accepted to a medical anesthesiology residency. I also know, and refer to, another 6 year OMFS/MD graduate who did a 2 year plastic surgery fellowship with emphasis on head and neck, whose primary advertising is as a facial plastic surgeon, not an oral surgeon.

 

[devildoc2]

Its POSSIBLE to switch into another area of medicine, but you'd be wasting a lot of time and effort to do so.

Why go thru all that hassle when you can just go to med school and straight into your desired residency?

 

[devildoc2]

Originally posted by DrJeff
I have a friend who was in a year 6 year OMFS/MD program who "jumped ship" after his med school years and applied to and was accepted to a medical anesthesiology residency. I also know, and refer to, another 6 year OMFS/MD graduate who did a 2 year plastic surgery fellowship with emphasis on head and neck, whose primary advertising is as a facial plastic surgeon, not an oral surgeon.

Wow, thats really an inefficient way to plan your career. I cant imagine why anybody would do that unless they absolutely changed their mind 100% about wanting to do OMFS or general dentistry as a whole.

 

[gryffindor]

It happens. I have a mentor whose father was a dentist, so he went to dental school and graduated with his DDS. Graduated in May, enrolled in medical school starting as a first-year student in August. Went through 4 years of med school (at a different university than where he got the DDS), then did an ENT residency & fellowship. Is now a full-fleged Head & Neck Surgeon. I'm sure his dental training is an added bonus to the work he does compared to the other Head & Neck Surgeons, but he doesn't advertise the DDS part of his training unless necessary (like when writing a LOR for me trying to apply to dental residencies).

Gosh that's a lot of school, but people do it sometimes. Students change their minds. No sense in doing third molar extractions all the time if you really find facial esthetics that exciting and want to take the extra time to do the residency and practice. But I don't think most students enter OMS with the intent of ultimately practicing something else. There is enough to do in OMS without having to resort to other medical procedures to fill appointments.

 

[Yah-E]

Larry:

OMSR/MD: are you refering to Oral & Maxillofacial Radiology?

Because there is such sub-specialty and I just wanted to know if that was what you were asking?

I'm not certain if you're talking about OMS or OMR?

 

[River13]

During my OMS externship, I assisted the attending and oral surgery residents do full body liposuction. I was kind of shocked since I was there to investigate their OMS residency, not their plastics residency. In some states, a medical liscence is like a dental liscence... you can do endo, perio, OMS, as long as you can meet the standard of care and quality of work that a specialist does...same with medicine- if you have a medical liscence you can practice in any area of medicine, but you have to perform the procedure as well as the guy who has done the residency in the specific area.

River

 

[devildoc2]

Originally posted by River13
During my OMS externship at Oregon Health and Science University this summer, I assisted the attending and oral surgery residents do full body liposuction and boob jobs. I was kind of shocked since I was there to investigate their OMS residency, not their plastics residency. In some states like Oregon, a medical liscence is like a dental liscence... you can do endo, perio, OMS, as long as you can meet the standard of care and quality of work that a specialist does...same with medicine in Oregon- if you have a medical liscence you can practice in any area of medicine, but you have to perform the procedure as well as the guy who has done the residency in the specific area.

Who wants to attend an OMS residency where you arent doing OMS cases? Who the hell signs up for that?

Regardless of what the law says, I find that to be highly unethical.

Imagine a psychiatrist trying to moonlight as a neurosurgeon with no real training!

Its also borderline unethical for a federally funded OMS residency program to take taxpayer dollars and use it to do procedures that are totally outside the scope of OMS practice.

That money is supposed to be for training future OMS surgeons, not plastic surg wannabes.

Another point about residencies. An OMS residency is accredited by the ACGME for one thing--OMS procedures. The OMS residents would NOT be able to get board certified in plastics--to do so requires completing an APPROVED plastics residency.

I would never go to a doctor who is not board certified in their specialty. The fact that apparently Oregon doesnt require board certification seems very strange to me.

 

[Yah-E]

Devil Doc:

I do understand your point, but I believe what had happened to River13 during his externship was that (s)he just happen to be doing an externship during the Plastic Surgery rotation portion of the OMS training.

Many OMS residencies in the US have Plastic Surgery rotations, like at Mayo OMS program is just another example. Also OMS rotate through Anesthesiology, but OMS programs weren't practicing or using funds incorrectly.

When you rotate through a Plastics rotations, an OMS resident will see everything that has to do with plastic surgery, even lipo and breast augmentation. Again, just like when an OMS residenct rotates through a General Surgery rotation, an OMS resident will see all types of surgeries.

Hope this clears it up a bit.

 

[peach4me]

My experience wasn't during a plastics rotation...it happened while rotating with the residents at one of the OMS attendings private practice...This attending is board certified in ENT and OMS, but still does full body lipo, etc. I don't agree with it either Devildoc, but it's happening, and in more states than just Oregon.

 

[River13]

wow!