Oral Surgery and Life?

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How difficult/easy is it to juggle private practice oral surgery and a good family life?

From my perspective, OMFS seems to be the most demanding of time (call, post-op, etc) of all the fields of dentistry, and I am concerned that it would take away from having a good family.

Anybody got any good/bad experiences to share?

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How difficult/easy is it to juggle private practice oral surgery and a good family life?

From my perspective, OMFS seems to be the most demanding of time (call, post-op, etc) of all the fields of dentistry, and I am concerned that it would take away from having a good family.

Anybody got any good/bad experiences to share?

My daddy was an oral surgeon. I thought what we had a good family life growing up and all.
 
Don't lose perspective....the worst schedule of all the dental specialists (OMFS) is still better than almost ALL of the medical specialties. And you have options....

1. Periodontist-type OMFS: Slam in some implants. Pull some 3rd molars. Occasional tori. Leave at 4pm and see the kids' ball game. Then go home in your BMW M6 and bang your hot wife like a screen door in a hurricaine. Fall asleep and repeat the next day.

2. Bad-a$$ type OMFS: Resect a tongue & mandible with a neck dissection. Harvest & anastomose a fibula from angle to angle. Hell yeah. Then answer the phone call from your 3rd wife's attorney about who gets the kids after the divorce. "What kids?" is your answer. You finish your case at midnight and are about to go home in your Buick station wagon to eat some Ramen and bang your girlfriend....dang your pager goes off....flap is turning blue.......back to the OR at 2am......
 
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toofache32 baby I like your perspective:cool:..... pro I'am the 2nd guy.... you bet you a$$ I'am:smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin:

 
Don't lose perspective....the worst schedule of all the dental specialists (OMFS) is still better than almost ALL of the medical specialties. And you have options....

Toof, where are you currently studying?
 
so, to be the perio-surgeon type of oral surgeon, implants and 3rd molars, basically the kind of lifestyle where things are done on a schedule for the most part, mostly elective procedures, no emergencies where someone needs to be cranialized or have their face put back on, how often does that exist? and if so, how much of an education do you need? are the implants and 3rd molar surgeons more often than not those who do the 4 year residency rather than the 6 year md program. id much rather say no to the md degree and just take the 4 years and move on with my life but do the 4 and 6 yr tracks gear you for different things?
 
I was also wondering if there was a way to do both.
Like have your own practice, but work at a hospital couple days a week.
Is that too much?
 
I was also wondering if there was a way to do both.
Like have your own practice, but work at a hospital couple days a week.
Is that too much?

i don't imagine it would be different than most MDs: specialists have their own practice in conjunction with hospital privledges.

someone correct me if i'm wrong.

jB!:)
 
Regardless whether you do a 4 year or 6year/MD track of OMFS residency the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ is in staying in your office AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE and avoiding the hospital as much as possible.

Most OMFS'ers whether they are 4 year or 6 year/MD get on staff at a hospital and attain full hospital privileges for at least the traditional scope of OMFS (Orthognathic, Cranio-Maxillofacial Trauma, and related OR time for dentoalveolar procedures). Often times, new grads find themselves working as associates in practices where they have to pick up part of the office-call and hospital trauma call. They do it for various reasons, but mostly because they have to, and its a way to get your name out in the community as well.

The beauty of OMFS is that you have the power to pick and chose your course. Some start out with more hospital procedures as they build a private referral base, others flat out avoid it from the get-go. Some keep the hospital privileges for life, while others slowly phase them out as their private practices and bank-accounts grow.

Most OMFS would be happy to do more hospital and expanded scope procedures (just like back in residency), but they quickly lose interest in it when you factor in:
1) Minimal or NO reimbursement for technically demanding, high-risk procedures (as in the case of facial trauma, head & neck cancer).
2) Irregular Hours, time away from family & friends

In my humble opinion, I think as a specialty we have an obligation to provide care for facial trauma, but that obligation should not be such that it completely over-rides and destroys our private practice/elective surgery lifestyle. To that end, facial trauma call must be negotiated and arranged in a FAIR manner with other practicing OMFS as well as any Plastics and ENT's that may do facial trauma. That's a lot easier said than done! Where I grew up, the OMFS/Plastics and ENTs get along pretty well at the Level 1 trauma hospital... they have it split in such a way that they average a trauma call schedule of about 1 week out of every 10-12 weeks.
 
Regardless whether you do a 4 year or 6year/MD track of OMFS residency the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ is in staying in your office AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE and avoiding the hospital as much as possible.

Most OMFS'ers whether they are 4 year or 6 year/MD get on staff at a hospital and attain full hospital privileges for at least the traditional scope of OMFS (Orthognathic, Cranio-Maxillofacial Trauma, and related OR time for dentoalveolar procedures). Often times, new grads find themselves working as associates in practices where they have to pick up part of the office-call and hospital trauma call. They do it for various reasons, but mostly because they have to, and its a way to get your name out in the community as well.

The beauty of OMFS is that you have the power to pick and chose your course. Some start out with more hospital procedures as they build a private referral base, others flat out avoid it from the get-go. Some keep the hospital privileges for life, while others slowly phase them out as their private practices and bank-accounts grow.

Most OMFS would be happy to do more hospital and expanded scope procedures (just like back in residency), but they quickly lose interest in it when you factor in:
1) Minimal or NO reimbursement for technically demanding, high-risk procedures (as in the case of facial trauma, head & neck cancer).
2) Irregular Hours, time away from family & friends

In my humble opinion, I think as a specialty we have an obligation to provide care for facial trauma, but that obligation should not be such that it completely over-rides and destroys our private practice/elective surgery lifestyle. To that end, facial trauma call must be negotiated and arranged in a FAIR manner with other practicing OMFS as well as any Plastics and ENT's that may do facial trauma. That's a lot easier said than done! Where I grew up, the OMFS/Plastics and ENTs get along pretty well at the Level 1 trauma hospital... they have it split in such a way that they average a trauma call schedule of about 1 week out of every 10-12 weeks.

Ditto....Money is made in the office...plain and simple. Doing the big whacks are nice....but don't pay.
 
Thank you for all your info. I guess more and more oral surgery sounds right for me. :)
 
Toof is currently studying to be an OMFS type Periodontist.

huh....I thought he was a perio resident studying to perform neck dissections
 
huh....I thought he was a perio resident studying to perform neck dissections

Funny, I heard he was in it for the tea bags and hot carls...
 
An OMFS thread that went 12 posts without a single reference to reach arounds or teabagging...it was just too good to last...
 
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