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Does anyone know when we are supposed to receive our new contract and orders for the Army?
Does anyone know when we are supposed to receive our new contract and orders for the Army?
CONTINUOUS GME TRAINING CONTRACT: Current service agreements for participants in the HPSP, ROTC and USUHS require application for Army FYGME and performance of the year on active duty if selected. In some cases, those desiring to train beyond the FYGME must apply for the additional specialty training. In an effort to facilitate continuity of training, the Army Medical Department will continue, in academic year 2012, their single step selection process beginning at the FYGME level. This process allows a medical student to be considered and selected for a graduate medical education (GME) program leading to specialty board certification in their chosen specialty without having to submit a separate application for post-graduate year level 2 (PGY2) and above training.
The Army offers this continuous training in the specialties of Anesthesiology, Child Neurology, Dermatology, Emergency Medicine, Family Medicine, Internal Medicine, Neurology, Neurosurgery, OB-GYN, Ophthalmology, Orthopaedics, Otolaryngology, Pathology, Pediatrics, Physical Medicine, Psychiatry, Radiology (Diagnostic), and Radiation Oncology.
The Army will offer all students who are selected for these designated specialties the option of entering into a contract for the entire duration of their specialty training (continuous training contract) if they have passed all parts of their respective licensing exams. Students may accept the offer of training for the entire length of the residency or indicate their preference to perform only the FYGME with the Army.
- Continuous training contracts will not be issued until AFTER entry onto active duty (with the contingency that students meet the Army's Physical Fitness Test (APFT) and Height/Weight standards upon in-processing with their training facility). If a student, selected to a continuous GME training position, FAILS TO MEET APFT and Height/Weight standards, or does not pass Step III by the start of their PGY-2 year, they will be placed on a leave of absence until they become compliant.
- If the continuous training option is accepted, an individual may still withdraw from the continuous training contract, after beginning FYGME training, if career or personal goals change. The individual may apply for PGY-2 training as long as their withdrawal is accepted and processed by 15 September 2012 otherwise they will begin serving their obligated time as a General Medical Officer (GMO) at the completion of the FYGME.
- If the FYGME only option is selected, the individual may still apply for PGY-2 training according to the standard process or may begin serving their obligated time as a GMO at the completion of the FYGME.
I found this on the Mods website
Guess we get our contract once we get our orders
So when do we get our orders?
I called the army HPSP office yesterday and it was one of my more comical interactions with DA civilians:
Me: "Hi, Im a 4th year medical student and am calling to find out when we can expect to get our orders to residency. I heard early April and I have not received anything yet. This is tough because I need to enroll in the daycare waiting list on base and they say its 8-12 months wait. They wont let me do it until we have orders"
HPSP: "Oh, you dont have it yet?"
M:"No, is there a timeline when we should expect to get them?"
H:"Do you have AKO?"
M:"Umm, yes."
H:"Well, check it."
M:"Ive checked my AKO email"
H:"Yes, well probably not recently. So check it for your orders"
M:"I have it open right now"
H:"Well, keep checking it"
M:"Does that mean they should be coming soon?"
H:"Yes, keep checking it. Anything else?"
M:"Thanks..."
That conversation is unreal. Except it is completely believable and exactly what I get every time I try calling that office IF I can actually get someone on the phone. Recently I have called 4 times (no answer), left 2 messages and sent 2 people 6 emails. No response.
Some day, someone will stay in long enough to rise up in the ranks and fire these people up there.
there was a glitch at HRC regarding RFOs. We have been told that they
will finally start being published by next week. We have had several calls
and I know that the individuals are getting very anxious. We had the
information to HRC by the first week in March and I do not know what the
exact problem is/was. Yes, they will receive both the RFO and orders via AKO
and we have been telling them to check AKO at least once a day.
Got this email from the GME at my residency site regarding the delay in getting our orders out. Hope this means we are going to be getting our orders next week but I'm not holding my breath
Yeah, probably but as we are at the ass end of the chain, we just gotta suck it up. Orders should have been published months ago after they got our signed acknowledgement forms.Classic buck pass... they rush us to sign paperwork and threaten loss of our matched position if its not in in time, but when it comes to them publishing orders, its not their fault. They did their part a month ago, probably never follow-up and then realize things are lagging blame it on someone else. GS-9 for life!
Classic buck pass... they rush us to sign paperwork and threaten loss of our matched position if its not in in time, but when it comes to them publishing orders, its not their fault. They did their part a month ago, probably never follow-up and then realize things are lagging blame it on someone else. GS-9 for life!
FYGME Orders Update:
I was just informed that orders should start coming out Friday of this week. They will be processed by the earliest report date, which means Tripler AMC orders will be processed first. I will make sure you get a copy of your orders via your email address. You will also receive a hard copy by mail. After you receive your orders you can make your travel arrangements and schedule your household goods pickup. If you need help finding a Transportation Office you can call me M-F, 7:30 am to 3:30 pm. Review your orders carefully and let me know of any errors ASAP. I am not sure why your orders are late and I apologize. I appreciate your patience in this matter.
Still nothing. My current lease ends mid-may and I have to get moving to my new place by that time... somehow I think this is going to end up costing me money.
It's Friday, Friday
Gotta get orders on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to their orders, orders
Friday, Friday
Gettin' orders on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the their orders
RFO received about 20 minutes ago. Im a Jun 08 report date. Funny, I did a physical earlier this academic year, but it says mine was last in 2007. Lol. I guess left hand does not talk to right hand. Will be interested to see if my orders reflect prior service and how long it will take to get the orders now.
RFO received about 20 minutes ago. Im a Jun 08 report date. Funny, I did a physical earlier this academic year, but it says mine was last in 2007. Lol. I guess left hand does not talk to right hand. Will be interested to see if my orders reflect prior service and how long it will take to get the orders now.
I know the incoming Interns are really getting anxious as are we. We
all have spoken to Personnel, to include COL Powers and there is a major
problem on their end. We are all doing everything possible to rectify the
situation and get things moving. The latest that I was told was orders
should start rolling out by Wed.
Where are you headed?
It's something wrong pretty high up, above the main HPSP office.
Yeah, I think it's called incompetence. Fire them or at least send out an appology email to all of us explaining what is actually going on.
Was told that several officers are working on it and that they will start coming out today. We shall see.