Community College classes for prerequistes?


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kennyram401

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Would it be a big deal if I took O Chem at my old community college next Summer and Fall semesters because my college only offers online hybrid classes for O Chem and a DO school I want to apply to is not happy about online classes.
 

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Personally i think I have learned more in my summer classes (biochem and calc) than any others. I don't really think they'd care excessively especially if you dropped a couple A's.
 

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Unless there's a compelling reason to do it there, you generally should take summer courses at schools that are in the same class as your undergraduate college - so four-year school -----> four-year school. If you have a particularly good reason for doing it, then the answer to your question wouldn't help you anyway (i.e. money, being near home so you don't have to pay for living, etc.).
 

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While a single summer course at a CC is unlikely to have much, if any, impact, I still find the attitude at medical schools, backup by quotes from their websites below, kind of follows this order starting from least negative impact to most negative impact

Summer Home School, non prereq
Summer Home School, prereq
Summer Away 4 year school, prereq
Summer CC, prereq
Summer CC, Organic

Not too mention you are taking 15 weeks of schoolin' but doin' it in 5
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There are some medical schools that directly speak to this idea of community college courses. This may give a little better insight in how the underlying “culture” or “attitude” of admission committee members, whether a formal policy or not, may perceive applicants who choose summer or community college coursework. While this list is not exhaustive, it is representative enough to help advise students who are considering such a step.

SUNY Upstate College of Medicine
http://www.upstate.edu/com/admissions/faqs.php
“Applicants should avoid taking more than one or two prerequisite science courses during the summer and avoid taking them at community colleges.”

Ichan School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
http://icahn.mssm.edu/education/medical/admissions/regular-track/requirements
Q: Can I take my courses at a community college, or must I take them at a four-year college or university?
A: We have no requirement about where you take courses, though the Committee on Admissions does take that into consideration in evaluating your application.


Johns Hopkins Medical School
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/som/admissions/md/application_process/prerequisites_requirements.html
The School of Medicine accepts prerequisites completed at the community college level. In order to be competitive in the selection process, we encourage prospective applicants with community college prerequisites to supplement these courses by taking advanced courses in related subjects at their four year institution.

University of Florida College of Medicine
http://admissions.med.ufl.edu/faq/#community_college
Q: Can I take the prerequisite courses at my local community/junior college?
A: In order to create the most academically competitive application you should take all prerequisite courses at the most competitive bachelor’s degree granting institution where you can gain entrance. You should try to complete your pre-requisite courses at a four-year institution


Albert Einstein College of Medicine
https://www.einstein.yu.edu/educati...pplication-procedure/course-requirements.aspx
Whereas course work at a four-year college or university is our benchmark, if a student chooses to meet a competency component via an alternate route such as through laboratory experience, through an advanced placement course, a course taken at a community college, a course taken abroad (during a semester abroad for which the undergraduate U.S. degree-granting institution gives credit, or for which AMCAS will verify and report the grade), or an online course, he or she should seek guidance from his or her advisor to ensure that the option meets the above guidelines as well as the rigorous academic standard required by the Albert Einstein College of Medicine.

George Washington University
http://smhs.gwu.edu/academics/md-program/admissions/faqs#communitycollege
Do you accept community college credits?
Yes. The Committee on Admissions does accept coursework taken at a community college; however, it is preferable to have the pre-medical coursework taken at a four-year college or university.


Florida State University College of Medicine
http://med.fsu.edu/?page=mdAdmissions.admissionRequirement
Listed below is the pre-requisite coursework required for all matriculates to the FSU COM. Advanced Placement, CLEP, and dual enrollment credits fulfill the course requirements. However, courses taken in a traditional classroom at a four-year institution are considered to be more academically competitive.

Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University
https://medicine.temple.edu/education/md-program/admissions/requirements
Two pre-requisite science courses can be fulfilled with AP credits, community college courses or through a study abroad program.

Texas A&M Health Sciences Center College of Medicine
http://medicine.tamhsc.edu/admissions/apply/index.html
Policy on AP Credits, Credits by Exam, and Dual Credit
We generally prefer that applicants take the prerequisite courses at 4-year accredited colleges and universities rather than utilize advanced placement credits, credits by exam, dual-credit, pass/fail course work or community college courses. We do not dismiss these credits; and, if they have been taken, we will accept them toward meeting the prerequisites. In fact, if an applicant has placed out of a required level course, we will also accept another course in that discipline at the same or higher level. Again, our preference is that applicants take graded courses at 4-year institutions, particularly the prerequisites in the biological sciences and the chemistry series.

Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine
http://www.medschool.vcu.edu/admissions/md/faq/#q43
Are community college classes accepted as prerequisite course credit?
They may be, but the Admissions Committee generally expects students to complete all prerequisite courses at a four-year undergraduate institution.

Yale
https://medicine.yale.edu/education/admissions/apply/premed.aspx
Pre-medical courses must be completed in a U.S., U.K., or Canadian college or university. U.S. Community College courses are acceptable, provided that the courses include laboratory work and are comparable in content to courses at four-year colleges, universities, or institutes of technology.

Weill Cornell
http://weill.cornell.edu/education/admissions/app_faq.html
Can I take my prerequisite courses at a Community College?
It is not recommended.


 
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Unless there's a compelling reason to do it there, you generally should take summer courses at schools that are in the same class as your undergraduate college - so four-year school -----> four-year school. If you have a particularly good reason for doing it, then the answer to your question wouldn't help you anyway (i.e. money, being near home so you don't have to pay for living, etc.).
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Unless there's a compelling reason to do it there, you generally should take summer courses at schools that are in the same class as your undergraduate college - so four-year school -----> four-year school. If you have a particularly good reason for doing it, then the answer to your question wouldn't help you anyway (i.e. money, being near home so you don't have to pay for living, etc.).
My college only offers Organic Chem for hybrid online/ in person labs courses and I don't think many med schools would like that. I asked NYIT and they gave me a harsh "No".
 
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I have been told from many many adults-who are in admission office, who have children in med school etc-that taking ANY core pre-reqs in CC is never recommended.

Also, when my sister used to be pre-dental, she was told from OHSU that they don't accept CC credit

Which makes me question: Why do med schools NOT look down on AP credits as much as they do on CC classes?
 
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I have been told from many many adults-who are in admission office, who have children in med school etc-that taking ANY core pre-reqs in CC is never recommended.

Also, when my sister used to be pre-dental, she was told from OHSU that they don't accept CC credit
So should I just take the online/ in person lab O Chem at my four year instead of the traditional community college?
 
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I have been told from many many adults-who are in admission office, who have children in med school etc-that taking ANY core pre-reqs in CC is never recommended.

Also, when my sister used to be pre-dental, she was told from OHSU that they don't accept CC credit
It would completely disqualify my from going to NYIT COM because they do not accept online courses.
 
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well I m not an expert at all; I just added a tad bit to what everyone already said in this thread.

Maybe you should consult your counselor and NYIT admission office. I never heard of college that doesnt' offer traditional Ochem classes,btw...
 
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kennyram401

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well I m not an expert at all; I just added a tad bit to what everyone already said in this thread.

Maybe you should consult your counselor and NYIT admission office. I never heard of college that doesnt' offer traditional Ochem classes,btw...
I go to Providence College School of Continuing Education.
 

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Idk man. Adcom may think that you chose the easy way out. Plus, Ochem is Ochem. If you do badly, it will be really really bad. A summer course of Ochem is very risky.

I took 2 of my gen chem courses at CC too, coz they were cheap!!! But I took like 2 of them in the a semester back to back so hopefully that will show my competence :/
 

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My college only offers Organic Chem for hybrid online/ in person labs courses and I don't think many med schools would like that. I asked NYIT and they gave me a harsh "No".
Is it possible for you to take the course at a four-year school? Most four-year schools have summer programs as well although perhaps not as cheap as you would find at a community college.
 

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As I said in my original post, "...a single summer course at a CC is unlikely to have much, if any, impact..."

It is unlikely to have a negative impact on your application
 

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I go to Providence College School of Continuing Education.
Why are you in the school of continuing education and not the school of arts and sciences? I looked at the website for the school of continuing education and they don't seem to offer any science classes.
 
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To answer the OP's question, I don't think it would be a problem as long as it is normal ochem with lab. As a nontraditional student, I took a number of prerequisite science classes at community college because it was much, much more affordable (in California--like 1/10th the price per unit): general chem I/II with lab, biology I with lab, physics I/II with lab.
I did end up taking ochem I/II at a 4-year school (it was not available with lab at CC near me) and I also took biochemistry at a 4-year school. Be aware that there are abbreviated ochem classes at some CCs (for nursing, allied health) that will not serve you well later in your educational career.
I ended up with several intereviews and 1 acceptance. I don't think CC classes are as detrimental to your chances as people seem to think.
 
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To answer the OP's question, I don't think it would be a problem as long as it is normal ochem with lab. As a nontraditional student, I took a number of prerequisite science classes at community college because it was much, much more affordable (in California--like 1/10th the price per unit): general chem I/II with lab, biology I with lab, physics I/II with lab.
I did end up taking ochem I/II at a 4-year school (it was not available with lab at CC near me) and I also took biochemistry at a 4-year school. Be aware that there are abbreviated ochem classes at some CCs (for nursing, allied health) that will not serve you well later in your educational career.
I ended up with 6 interviews, 1 acceptance, 1 WL. I don't think CC classes are as detrimental to your chances as people seem to think.
Alright Ill go for it. How many schools did you apply to?
 
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Alright Ill go for it. How many schools did you apply to?
Lol apparently enough. Close to 30. And yeah I see where you're coming from. Still, I think if I had focused my choices better I could have applied to fewer.
Here's a question which occurred to me past night. So I did fairly well on the MCAT. What would happen if you went to CC classes and did only fair or mediocre? Probably would reflect poorly on you.
 
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Lol apparently enough. Close to 30. And yeah I see where you're coming from. Still, I think if I had focused my choices better I could have applied to fewer.
Here's a question which occurred to me past night. So I did fairly well on the MCAT. What would happen if you went to CC classes and did only fair or mediocre? Probably would reflect poorly on you.
Do you think if I apply to 17 schools Ill even have a shot then?
 
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Do you think if I apply to 17 schools Ill even have a shot then?
If you apply smartly, yeah I think you'd have a shot. Which is to say, dont apply to oos schools that don't take oos applicants; dont apply if you dont meet the prereqs, etc. If you have a good GPA, good mcat, and a story that shows your interest in medicine you'll probably get interviews.
I definitely applied to too many reach schools for my particular 'story' and a couple of low probability oos places.
Remeber if you get an interview you've made the cut: they don't care where you took your prereqs, etc. at that point. it's all on your ability to present yourself to your interviewer.
 
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If you apply smartly, yeah I think you'd have a shot. Which is to say, dont apply to oos schools that don't take oos applicants; dont apply if you dont meet the prereqs, etc. If you have a good GPA, good mcat, and a story that shows your interest in medicine you'll probably get interviews.
I definitely applied to too many reach schools for my particular 'story' and a couple of low probability oos places.
Remeber if you get an interview you've made the cut: they don't care where you took your prereqs, etc. at that point. it's all on your ability to present yourself to your interviewer.
Which school were you accepted to?
 
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I know online courses are not looked at favorably, but you stated that it's an online hybrid course so I think that might be better. It might look like you took an easy way out if you go to your old community college that you no longer attend and take a summer course for one of the hardest pre-req classes.
 
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I know online courses are not looked at favorably, but you stated that it's an online hybrid course so I think that might be better. It might look like you took an easy way out if you go to your old community college that you no longer attend and take a summer course for one of the hardest pre-req classes.
I did some research with the schools I want to apply to and they all agree that hybrid classes should be fine. Thank you all.