I am wondering the same thing. I am a chem major and I am actually looking forward to it in some sick way. That being said, its better to over estimate the enemy rather than under estimate it so I keep telling myself its this evil being that I need to murder.Is Organic Chemistry really as hard as everyone portrays it to be? I'm just wondering because i will have to take it soon, and want to prepare myself.
I enjoy your hatred of ochem I wish there was a way to "like" this.ochem sucks donkey nutts. It's function is more like a weed out class than anything. You don't use a ****ing thing from this class. Who the hell cares how you hydrogenate a double bond and then break it up again to add an alcohol group? What a low down piece of **** class.
Did o-chem steal your girl?ochem sucks donkey nutts. It's function is more like a weed out class than anything. You don't use a ****ing thing from this class. Who the hell cares how you hydrogenate a double bond and then break it up again to add an alcohol group? What a low down piece of **** class.
You sure about that? I mean YOU might see a lot of it being a pharm student but besides from compound names I don't see us having to know what mechanism the drug interacts with the body. Most of it pharmacokinetics using the Michalies-Menten enzyme curves but that's gen chem. Hydroboration? Dier-Alders reactions? SN1/SN2 attacks? yeah, doubt it.Ochem was my favorite pre-req class. All those cool experiments (like making luminol or esters) was really fun. And I agree with one of the above posters- it is like learning a second language. Trust me, when you learn to "read" the mechanisms, it is hella fun to do problems. Yes, it is a weed out class but it isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Ochem is important when you get into biochemistry- enzymes, drug action, etc- which you DO get into in med school so drink up
I was thinking more along the lines of functional groups. Not so much the mechanisms. Also, I think ochem helps you think about things a little differently than other pre-reqs. For instance, the bios are rote memorization. Sure, first half of ochem is memorizing the mechanisms. But, in ochem 2 when you put it all together, you can't just rely on the memorization of what each reagent does. You have to think 1,2, and 3 steps ahead (or work backwards) to "build" your end product. My ochem prof related it to what we would be working with in healthcare (i.e. drugs)which made it interesting and enjoyable.You sure about that? I mean YOU might see a lot of it being a pharm student but besides from compound names I don't see us having to know what mechanism the drug interacts with the body. Most of it pharmacokinetics using the Michalies-Menten enzyme curves but that's gen chem. Hydroboration? Dier-Alders reactions? SN1/SN2 attacks? yeah, doubt it.
This. For the OP and anyone else reading this thread down the line, ochem is essentially solving a puzzle. Matching reactants, reagents, knowing what to expect in a mechanism, etc. If you break it down step-by-step, you might find that it's easier than its reputation suggests.You have to think 1,2, and 3 steps ahead (or work backwards) to "build" your end product.
I'm taking Organic Chemistry right now and I was just talking to my friend who is taking it next year about it. The best way I can describe Organic is by comparing it to learning a second language. OChem II is ALL synthesis and mechanisms. Synthesis is basically when they give you a compound to start off with and they give you a target molecule to "synthesize". The analogy of learning a second language goes like this: How you go from compound A to compound B is kind of how you write a sentence, in that you have to plan out your train of thought to get from the start of the sentence to the end. You build sentences from letters which make up words and you synthesize molecules by memorizing reagents. People say you shouldn't memorize in Orgo, which is true, but there is no way getting around memorizing reagents.
Orgo I is much easier than Orgo II but Orgo II I think is much more interesting. Honestly orgo really isn't that hard. What makes it hard is the attention to detail you have to pay. I lose more points per test on silly things like not drawing the right number of carbons on a chain, than I do for getting something conceptually wrong. I'm sure you're smart enough to get it. But it's not necessarily about how well you get it, lots of people are smart enough to understand organic chem, to me and from my experience it comes down to how well you can perform on a test and NOT make silly errors. And it's the silly errors that will frustrate you. But maybe you don't make those kinds of mistakes and in that case you'll be fine
DON'T LET PEOPLE SCARE YOU ABOUT ORGO. Everyone used to say, "Oh wow it's so hard" and it's not easy, but it's not unbearable. It's not as if I think to myself everytime I'm reading or in lecture, "Oh my goodness this is so difficult". When you're in the moment of it, it'll be just like taking another class and the pre-infactuation every pre-med has with it will disappear . GOOD LUCK!
I agree with the above. I think it can be fun and challenging at the same time if you put in the time and effort and don't fall behind.It's horrible if you don't study or try to get away with studying "enough." You kind of have to go overboard with orgo and learn things in and out.
I personally liked it. Just because I think I understood the above while everyone else thought it was some sort of mystery how to do well. study!
One of the docs I work(ed) with took a look at my cheat sheet for an O-chem test (the prof allowed them because his tests were killer... whatever you could fit on an index card) a little less than two years ago. He chuckled and said something like, "Can I tell you? I have NEVER seen this stuff since taking the MCAT." *Sigh* I already knew that was the case, but still.Ochem is like playing with stick figures. It's fun and ultimately useless (unless you're going to be a chemist).