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barney12
Anyone know any major differences between Colorado and Jacksonville's ortho programs?
Wow. . .that was a completely unhelpful reply. Could I please have serious remarks from professional people? Thank you.
Antidentite,
Are you saying dumb and dumber because of OEC or are you saying that the residents at JU and Colorado will not be as good as you clinically when they are done.
are CU and JU still OEC?
i thought it folded.
I'm not so sure about JU. Isn't there still some connection?
There was actually a front page article in the most recent ADA News about the OEC situation and the lawsuits the former students were involved in. The article said Jacksonville's relationship with the OEC was "inactive." So, there's still some sort of tie.
Thanks for the inside info, indeep! Very interesting.
My friend, by the way, who is going to CU only applied there. He's from Colorado and due to family reasons that's the only place he looked at.
I believe in terms of competitiveness he could have gone many other places. Yet, w/ no live presence of OEC and the family draw he ends up there. I look forward to chatting w/ him about CU--its pros and cons--as time goes on.
So, indeep, how long do you see the legacy of OEC lasting? I said earlier that the stink of OEC should diminish at UNLV and JU. That was only my opinion w/ little basis in fact (just my best guess). Do you think it will hover for a long time above the said programs?
I understand your friend's situation and I know a few of the UNLV residents are the same way. They were very competitive applicants that for one reason or another ended up here, although they probably could have gone other places.
I don't think that the OEC stink will stick around for long. Talking with some private orthodontists in the community, they already are starting to have a different outlook on the program and I think shortly, other programs and residents will begin to feel the same way.
I feel that the real problem is not whether these programs will carry the stigma of being "former" OEC programs, but rather how they will survive the aftermath of the disaster that OEC was. They are now looking at carrying on already understaffed, overfilled residencies with little to no funding. I know at UNLV, many plans were made based on them getting the promised funding. Now that the funding is gone, they have to make up for the deficit somehow, and so they rely on residents' tution. These programs really need to downsize to bring the training experience up to par and to save thier reputation, but they can't because they rely on the tuition coming from all 16 residents. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the next few years and I hope that Dr. Lazarra never gets his claws into another program.
All of this just my opinion based on what I see at UNLV, but I would be surprised to find it any different at CU and JU.
That front page guy is starting to irritate me. Why did they put his huge picture on the cover? I would think they'd put pictures of people who do good things for dentistry, not stir up trouble. His story is not that special and he doesn't deserve the sympathy he is seeking. Giving him all this attention is again, bad for ortho.
Can I still write a letter to the editor? How often does the ADA news come out?
His story doesn't deserve ANY sympathy. OEC folding was probably the single BEST event that will ever occur in his ENTIRE career. He went from contractually obligated to making 150,000 for 7 years working for someone else, to having the ability to own the practice and make ????/year (my guess would be alot more that 150,000).
His real problem seems to be that he took on a $500,000 mortgage without a dime to his name, while having a family to support too. If he were smart, he would be able to come out the winner in this situation, instead of the pathetic loser.