Parents forcing me to be a doctor!

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Another problem is that my entire culture (I'm Indian) and all of my relatives have this view that if you're not a professional of some sort, then you're a complete failure. It doesn't help that all of my cousins are either in med school, going to med school, law school, or MBA programs.

it's called lying. LIE TO THEM! I mean, it's not like your university sends home a report card listing classes you've taken and grades. You're in college; you're parents should not be an obstruction because they can't legally research into your activities....again, LIE to them and crush them once you graduate.

just make sure you have a place to stay and a job after you graduate, because they'll probably disown you (i know how indian parents can be, unless you are an indian girl; then you got it made. jk) :laugh::laugh:
 
it's called lying. LIE TO THEM! I mean, it's not like your university sends home a report card listing classes you've taken and grades. You're in college; you're parents should not be an obstruction because they can't legally research into your activities....again, LIE to them and crush them once you graduate.

just make sure you have a place to stay and a job after you graduate, because they'll probably disown you (i know how indian parents can be, unless you are an indian girl; then you got it made. jk) :laugh::laugh:

This is terrible advice.

Part of being a man is to be honest and straight with people, especially your parents.

OP, despite what you say, I doubt your parents would really cut you off. Their is a common mentality among most Indian parents - they want their kids to be really succesful. Becoming well educated, making loads of money, and being respected is VERY valued in our culture. If you want to do something else OP, investigate other professions and once you've found one you're truly happy with - then tell your parents. They will question your choice, and you should address their concerns calmly and logically. Quell their fears, insure them that you'll be fine and that they don't have to worry. Also tell them that doing medicine would make you miserable and this is not how you want to live your life. Don't be enemies with them - remember, if anything happens to you it is your family that will come to your aid. They're all you have in this world, and they're the one's who truly care about you.

I can understand where you're coming from. Non-Indian's on this board have no clue about our culture or values. Be strong and don't be afraid.
 
This is terrible advice.

Part of being a man is to be honest and straight with people, especially your parents.

OP, despite what you say, I doubt your parents would really cut you off. Their is a common mentality among most Indian parents - they want their kids to be really succesful. Becoming well educated, making loads of money, and being respected is VERY valued in our culture. If you want to do something else OP, investigate other professions and once you've found one you're truly happy with - then tell your parents. They will question your choice, and you should address their concerns calmly and logically. Quell their fears, insure them that you'll be fine and that they don't have to worry. Also tell them that doing medicine would make you miserable and this is not how you want to live your life. Don't be enemies with them - remember, if anything happens to you it is your family that will come to your aid. They're all you have in this world, and they're the one's who truly care about you.

I can understand where you're coming from. Non-Indian's on this board have no clue about our culture or values. Be strong and don't be afraid.

👍👍
 
like other said, just major in what your interested in, take the prereqs, get really good grades though, in case you wanna go to grad school. and bomb the mcat.
 
Thanks for all the advice so far, and some of you are too funny (unlike the pre-meds I know of). BTW, I'm not in high school, I'm already in the first year of college.

Now a lot of people said I should just walk out of the house do whatever I want to. I've though about that numerous times and plan on doing it to if things continue to go this way. However, I don't want to set myself up for failure and need to save up, make sure I at least have a place to stay and have a job or internship in a field I like and make contacts. That's going to take months of planning for me and not something I can just do in a week. It would be much easier if they would just understand but I guess it is so ingrained in their heads that I have to be a successful little indian kid. I really don't want to have this type of relationship with my parents. However, I feel (as cliched as this sounds) it is my life and I should be able to decide what I want to do with it. And as for the people telling me I might like medicine later on, I really doubt that but who knows but as of now, I can't stand it. I already have cousins in med school and uncles who are doctors and that is not something I want to do with my life.
 
there are plenty of fields to go into that make money and earn respect, if you dont care about people, fine, some people dont, however, these people should not become doctors, and yes it does make them less capable of being a good doctor... no clue what would make you think otherwise.


I don't think wanting money and respect necessarily means you don't care about people at all. I'm sure you would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't care at all about anyone, be careful using absolutes. I'm just saying that I think it's a bs reason to go into medicine b/c you care about people and want to help them.
Anyone who says this obviously doesn't know that much about actually being a doctor. If you really care about people so much you would go into a field where you have a lot more contact with people and can help them more (like I said before nursing, social work, etc. ). If your only motivation is that you care about people and want to help them you will probably be very frustrated with your job in the long run and wished you had gone into another field.

I have no clue why you are so adamant that people who look at being a doctor as a profession instead of a calling are less capable of being an exceptional doctor. Maybe that's not right for you, maybe you need to be truly passionate about what you are doing to be good at it, but every person is different so don't be so quick to judge others reasons just because they may not be your own.
 
I could care less about that actual people.


Well, if you could care less about people, that means you currently do care about them.

Maybe you should scratch medicine and study Linguistics.
 
Um... Sorry I missed all the troll accusations, but if "grow a pair" is a constructive response (which I believe it is, especially in this case), then me telling him to go into medicine because he will end up liking it anyway even though everyone will tell him he needs to go into it for the "right" reasons is just as constructive of a response. Additionally, if you look at my previous posts, it is obvious I am not a troll. I just stated my opinion:

I don't care for helping people.
I'm going into medicine because there's nothing better to do.
There are no such things as "real" reasons to be a doctor.

If you can handle my opinion and insist on simply responding with ad hominem attacks, that is your problem not mine. In this thread alone, you have issued equally blunt statements. You yelled troll; you're the instigator here, not me.

Oh and by the way, you were the one who asked me in the first place (and "just out of curiosity" I might add) why I wanted to be a doctor. I answered truthfully, and you responded with insults, which is fine, but then don't call me unconstructive.

I'm sorry life1chance, but you just keep providing me with so much. Look man, there are reasons why I called you a troll. Let's start with my original question. I asked why you want to go into medicine. You answered "I have nothing better to do." In my response I said not to take what I said personally, because I did not actually believe you would really think that is your answer. Then you proceeded to ask me what "life is." So my troll alarm went off. But okay, I'll assume you are not trolling. That does not change my opinion that your answers are unconstructive and in actuality don‘t even answer anything (I'll explain below) in relation to the question. Plus you will never be admitted to the profession if that is your answer. You have an opinion, so do I. But so does an ms adcom and so do residency directors.
I'll break it down piece by piece:

"I don't care for helping people."
Okay, fair enough. There are other qualities in medicine. I wouldn't necessarily say this at an interview or anything but that's fine. But this is certainly not a reason why you choose medicine. All you have done here is list what is not a reason you have chosen medicine. You didn't answer the question.

"There are no such things as "real" reasons to be a doctor."
Again, you failed to answer the question. In a way I agree with you, no two people should have the exact same reasons and everyone takes a different path here and should not fall into "real reason" stereotypes. But this is not excuse for not having a legitimate motivation for doing what you do.

"I'm going into medicine because there is nothing better to do."
I saved the best for last. All you are doing here is restating the obvious. I know you feel there is nothing better for you to do, that is why you are a premed. But you still didn't mention why. Why is medicine the best use of your time? Is it because you are a problem solver? You have a kind mind and offer a kind word? You want to be a leader? You like diplomas on your wall? You like the funny noises the MRI makes? You are a greedy douche? Think of something. There is nothing I would rather do with my time either, and nothing better for me to do. But I have actual reasons why, you don‘t and that indicates to me you haven‘t given this any thought at all. Asking why did you choose medicine is the same as asking why do you feel you have nothing better to do? Answer the question.

Like I said, you have an opinion and so do I. Again, it's nothing personal, but your opinion comes off as unconstructive, very uninformed and almost completely un-thought. And you will never be admitted to medical school unless you think of a better answer, that one is not my opinion, that's how it is. That is why I originally said you have to think of a better answer.
 
Thanks for all the advice so far, and some of you are too funny (unlike the pre-meds I know of). BTW, I'm not in high school, I'm already in the first year of college.

Now a lot of people said I should just walk out of the house do whatever I want to. I've though about that numerous times and plan on doing it to if things continue to go this way. However, I don't want to set myself up for failure and need to save up, make sure I at least have a place to stay and have a job or internship in a field I like and make contacts. That's going to take months of planning for me and not something I can just do in a week. It would be much easier if they would just understand but I guess it is so ingrained in their heads that I have to be a successful little indian kid. I really don't want to have this type of relationship with my parents. However, I feel (as cliched as this sounds) it is my life and I should be able to decide what I want to do with it. And as for the people telling me I might like medicine later on, I really doubt that but who knows but as of now, I can't stand it. I already have cousins in med school and uncles who are doctors and that is not something I want to do with my life.

Good luck, and let us know how it turns out!
 
I found that after I broke off ties with my parents for a while, we were able to establish a mature adult-to-adult relationship without any of that old manipulative crap.

I would totally move out after that.
I like my parents a LOT more now that I don't live with them. It definitely makes them more like mentors and relatives instead of bosses.
 
Is anyone besides me wondering how the hell someone who has absolutely no interest in medicine or a health-related career has "stumbled" upon SDN? Seems to me you would have to be a tad bit interested in the career to have found the forum, browsed through it, register, and actually post! No one traipses around SDN for fun; this forum is serious business! :laugh:

Also, I've taken to the time to read through 4 pages of this thread, and have come to the conclusion that you're blowing this situation way out of proportion. Sit down and have a talk with your 'rents. Be upfront and honest with them, like Auron said. Realize they just want what's best for you and that includes having a stable and reputable career; you should count your blessings for having such conscientious parents. Now, they probably won't budge from their current position after a talk, but at least they'll know you have other aspirations in mind. Tell them not every Indian can be a doctor. There's gotta be someone to be next Sanjaya Malakar, the next Aishwarya Rai, etc. 😛 Once they realize that you're not setting yourself up for failure at all, that you're able to become successful in some other pursuit and that you will, in fact, do that, I have full confidence that they'll be happy and proud of you.

I don't think you realize how hyperbolic you sound. Parents "forcing" you into medicine? Cutting off all ties if you don't pursue it? Come on, that's...a bit of stretch. They'd be the laughing stock of the entire Indian community if they were to do that for those reasons. I'm desi too, but I'm from a family that doesn't care about education (yeah, for real, desi families like that exist!), so I've always been secretly jealous of my desi friends whose parents groom them for academic excellence. You don't know how good you have it! Appreciate it!
 
I can understand where you're coming from. Non-Indian's on this board have no clue about our culture or values. Be strong and don't be afraid.

Come on, let's not reinforce the Us vs. Them mentality. Everyone has legitimate points, whether they're Indian or not.
 
I don't feel like reading, so I don't know if this has been said.

Watch Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, especially the beginning, and follow what dude did. He seemed to pretty happy. Happy enough that in his new movie he's escaping from Gitmo.
 
I am just the guitar player in The Average White Band, but I have alot of respect for Indian parents. I have spent some time in Northern India, Delhi, Agra, Rishikesh, Dera Dun, and I have spent some time, briefly, with Indian families in their homes. Indian parents are pretty intense, from the perspective of a kid from Oregon, but the parents just want the best for their children. They value education, which I think is a good idea, and they want their children to be secure financially, and have a solid marriage to raise their own children, the grandchildren. Sounds good to me. Sure Indian parents can be annoying, but in my opinion, the Indian culture promotes strong families, the kids seem to excel, in the USA, they are grounded, do well in school, avoid drugs, and have stable marriages and families. What is not to like? Oh, and Ghandhi should be everyone's personal hero. And the food is to die for.
 
I am just the guitar player in The Average White Band, but I have alot of respect for Indian parents. I have spent some time in Northern India, Delhi, Agra, Rishikesh, Dera Dun, and I have spent some time, briefly, with Indian families in their homes. Indian parents are pretty intense, from the perspective of a kid from Oregon, but the parents just want the best for their children. They value education, which I think is a good idea, and they want their children to be secure financially, and have a solid marriage to raise their own children, the grandchildren. Sounds good to me. Sure Indian parents can be annoying, but in my opinion, the Indian culture promotes strong families, the kids seem to excel, in the USA, they are grounded, do well in school, avoid drugs, and have stable marriages and families. What is not to like? Oh, and Ghandhi should be everyone's personal hero. And the food is to die for.

Yes Indian food is the best in the world. Which reminds me... I want a dosa!!!!!!!
 
I don't feel like reading, so I don't know if this has been said.

Watch Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, especially the beginning, and follow what dude did. He seemed to pretty happy. Happy enough that in his new movie he's escaping from Gitmo.

sounds like sound advice to me!
 
Yes Indian food is the best in the world. Which reminds me... I want a dosa!!!!!!!

Indian food is the best in the world. Second best is Thai. Third best is Italian, real Italian, not fake American Italian. Fourth is a tie between Chinese and Japanese. I do not know enough about French cuisine to offer an opinion, but French has got to be in the top five based upon what I have read.

I attended a wedding in India, a huge wedding in Delhi, and, yeah, that was the best food in the world, and a great wedding, by the way. Indian families are strong. Strong families are good for society.
 
Indian food is the best in the world. Second best is Thai. Third best is Italian, real Italian, not fake American Italian. Fourth is a tie between Chinese and Japanese. I do not know enough about French cuisine to offer an opinion, but French has got to be in the top five based upon what I have read.

I attended a wedding in India, a huge wedding in Delhi, and, yeah, that was the best food in the world, and a great wedding, by the way. Indian families are strong. Strong families are good for society.


Searun...tisk tisk tisk...your taste buds must be on that BLUE MAGIC (American Gangster reference)!!!!!...LOL...j/k

Indian is OK...most of it is too heavy and greasy...I do like naan, and kheer, and gulab jamin though

Here's the correct order of BEST ETHNIC CUISINE:
1. French
2. Thai
3. Senegalese
4. Japanese
5. Vietnamese/Italian/Korean
6. and SOME GOOD OL' SOUL FOOD!!!! My mind is telling me noooooooooo ooooo ...but my stomach....my stomach is telling me yeaheaaaaaaaas...I don't see nothin' wrong with a little soul food!!!!! I don't see nothin wrong with a little soul food!...Can I get some of that Roscoe's to go PLEASE!!!!!! Ohhhhhhhhhhh yeah

haha...I still coming down from my workout high!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Searun...tisk tisk tisk...your taste buds must be on that BLUE MAGIC (American Gangster reference)!!!!!...LOL...j/k

Indian is OK...most of it is too heavy and greasy...I do like naan, and kheer, and gulab jamin though

Here's the correct order of BEST ETHNIC CUISINE:
1. French
2. Thai
3. Senegalese
4. Japanese
5. Vietnamese/Italian/Korean
6. and SOME GOOD OL' SOUL FOOD!!!! My mind is telling me noooooooooo ooooo ...but my stomach....my stomach is telling me yeaheaaaaaaaas...I don't see nothin' wrong with a little soul food!!!!! I don't see nothin wrong with a little soul food!...Can I get some of that Roscoe's to go PLEASE!!!!!! Ohhhhhhhhhhh yeah

haha...I still coming down from my workout high!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, you should have attended that wedding with me in Delhi, table after table of the most sumptuous food I have ever seen, the tables took up a huge tent. It would have taken me a year to sample everyhing. But actually our culinary loves are pretty similar, Thai, Japanese, Italian,....and yes, Vietnamese and Korean is great. I love Korean.

French, I need to go to France and experience French food and I will. Soul food, I believe you, I would love to go to some great cheap restaurant in the South and eat some great Soul food. Food is the entrance into a culture's soul. We are all just the folks, right, yes we are, and if we sit down and eat dinner together and talk, it would be good.
 
I am just the guitar player in The Average White Band, but I have alot of respect for Indian parents. I have spent some time in Northern India, Delhi, Agra, Rishikesh, Dera Dun, and I have spent some time, briefly, with Indian families in their homes. Indian parents are pretty intense, from the perspective of a kid from Oregon, but the parents just want the best for their children. They value education, which I think is a good idea, and they want their children to be secure financially, and have a solid marriage to raise their own children, the grandchildren. Sounds good to me. Sure Indian parents can be annoying, but in my opinion, the Indian culture promotes strong families, the kids seem to excel, in the USA, they are grounded, do well in school, avoid drugs, and have stable marriages and families. What is not to like? Oh, and Ghandhi should be everyone's personal hero. And the food is to die for.

After moving to United States I've noticed a lot of thing about the culture here. One thing in particular is that there is a pervasive idea that one has to move away from their whole family to go to school etc - basically the idea of closeness and family seems to be lost on a lot of people here.

When I trying to decide what college to attend, I was shocked when many of my friends told me "I want to move away as far as I can!" and similar comments. As an Indian, I strongly believe that a large part of the success Indian kids have is because of their strong connection with their family. Indian parents who immigrated to this country generally struggled much to come here and make a good living - They wanted to live the American dream, and want their kids to take advntage of this opportunity and be succesfull. I'm thankful for my parents support - When I get into med school, they are the one's who will be celebrating with me. They will always be their for me when I need them because we're close.
 
If the human body is fascinating but you don't care about people, then why not become a PhD instead? Remember, sick people are looking to you for hope and answers. If you don't care then you're cheating them out of the compassion they need.
 
After moving to United States I've noticed a lot of thing about the culture here. One thing in particular is that there is a pervasive idea that one has to move away from their whole family to go to school etc - basically the idea of closeness and family seems to be lost on a lot of people here.

When I trying to decide what college to attend, I was shocked when many of my friends told me "I want to move away as far as I can!" and similar comments. As an Indian, I strongly believe that a large part of the success Indian kids have is because of their strong connection with their family. Indian parents who immigrated to this country generally struggled much to come here and make a good living - They wanted to live the American dream, and want their kids to take advntage of this opportunity and be succesfull. I'm thankful for my parents support - When I get into med school, they are the one's who will be celebrating with me. They will always be their for me when I need them because we're close.

I think that you are right. Although, I am from Oregon and my family is from Oregon, and I am going to med school on the East Coast, three thousand miles away. But we keep in touch, and I agree, family is really important. Eventually, I will go home and be near my family.
 
After moving to United States I've noticed a lot of thing about the culture here. One thing in particular is that there is a pervasive idea that one has to move away from their whole family to go to school etc - basically the idea of closeness and family seems to be lost on a lot of people here.

When I trying to decide what college to attend, I was shocked when many of my friends told me "I want to move away as far as I can!" and similar comments. As an Indian, I strongly believe that a large part of the success Indian kids have is because of their strong connection with their family. Indian parents who immigrated to this country generally struggled much to come here and make a good living - They wanted to live the American dream, and want their kids to take advntage of this opportunity and be succesfull. I'm thankful for my parents support - When I get into med school, they are the one's who will be celebrating with me. They will always be their for me when I need them because we're close.

Family is great. But, I can see that your parents have never tried to control your life 🙂.
 
Indian is OK...most of it is too heavy and greasy...I do like naan, and kheer, and gulab jamin though

Sorry to butt in, riceman, but WHAT?? Indian cuisine is more than OK; it is out of this world, mouth-watering delicious!!! You, my friend, must have been exposed to some very bad Indian restaurants...which is okay, I understand, there are a lot of overpriced Indian restaurants here that serve greasy, flavorless, pathetic renditions of GOOD AND FLAVORFUL foods! It's sad, but don't give up on Indian food please! Try the biryanis (no other cuisine makes as good of a rice dish!), the kebabs, etc. They're delicious. And if you can, try to eat at someone's home instead of a restaurant.
 
If the human body is fascinating but you don't care about people, then why not become a PhD instead? Remember, sick people are looking to you for hope and answers. If you don't care then you're cheating them out of the compassion they need.

For me it's because being a post-doc and making 40k for the rest of my life doesn't appeal to me😉

But seriously, just because you are an MD doesn't necessarily mean that you will/have to work with directly with patients. I know of a number of doctors who work developing patient simulators, it's their broad knowledge of the human body and clinical aspects of it that gives them the background necessary to keep them realistic. I work with medical examiners and pathologists, are you saying they aren't doctors? What about those that go into administration or policy? The medical education is just a tool that allows you to do what you want to do, in a way it is no different having a PhD, you just look at problems from a different angle.
 
Sorry to butt in, riceman, but WHAT?? Indian cuisine is more than OK; it is out of this world, mouth-watering delicious!!! You, my friend, must have been exposed to some very bad Indian restaurants...which is okay, I understand, there are a lot of overpriced Indian restaurants here that serve greasy, flavorless, pathetic renditions of GOOD AND FLAVORFUL foods! It's sad, but don't give up on Indian food please! Try the biryanis (no other cuisine makes as good of a rice dish!), the kebabs, etc. They're delicious. And if you can, try to eat at someone's home instead of a restaurant.

To me, Indian food is OK at best. Italian is where its at...
 
To me, Indian food is OK at best. Italian is where its at...

Again, I have to question where you've been eating. I can make Indian food that will make you reconsider that statement!
 
Again, I have to question where you've been eating. I can make Indian food that will make you reconsider that statement!

Haha, I've eaten plenty (i.e. too much) indian food throughout these years. But then again, I have yet to try something of yours 😀, so who knows
 
I just had some naan and chole chappate (my favorite curry). I consider myself a connoisseur of Indian Cuisine 😀 What I find funny is that most American's can't stand our spicy food whereas I can eat jalapenos and wash them down with chilli powder.
 
Sorry to butt in, riceman, but WHAT?? Indian cuisine is more than OK; it is out of this world, mouth-watering delicious!!! You, my friend, must have been exposed to some very bad Indian restaurants...which is okay, I understand, there are a lot of overpriced Indian restaurants here that serve greasy, flavorless, pathetic renditions of GOOD AND FLAVORFUL foods! It's sad, but don't give up on Indian food please! Try the biryanis (no other cuisine makes as good of a rice dish!), the kebabs, etc. They're delicious. And if you can, try to eat at someone's home instead of a restaurant.

The best Indian food I have every had was in England...and it was still greasy...and fatty...and curry-y...and good...but not as good as Thai or French to me.
 
Haha, I've eaten plenty (i.e. too much) indian food throughout these years. But then again, I have yet to try something of yours 😀, so who knows

Just you wait, I'll make a convert out of you. :meanie:

I just had some naan and chole chappate (my favorite curry). I consider myself a connoisseur of Indian Cuisine 😀 What I find funny is that most American's can't stand our spicy food whereas I can eat jalapenos and wash them down with chilli powder.

Nah, man, the spiciness can be CRAZY. We keep it mild in my house (but still caliente compared to American standards). I had some daal chawal at a friend's house the other day, and I literally died. Runny nose, lots of water, mouth on fire, everything. I don't even remember tasting the food, just the spiciness. Too much heat conceals the flavor. 👎
 
This is terrible advice.
Part of being a man is to be honest and straight with people, especially your parents.

you gotta do what you gotta do if you want things paid for....sure be a "man" and get a job and work (sacrificing play time, study time, and EC time).
 
seriously, i hate paneer too. i don't know how people eat those fat cubes without puking...:barf:

You wanna talk about eating fat cubes? Russians eat pig fat cubes with salt and garlic (and in many cases vodka). Paneer is nothing.
 
The best Indian food I have every had was in England...and it was still greasy...and fatty...and curry-y...and good...but not as good as Thai or French to me.

Let me get this straight...you had Indian food in England, a country universally renowned for its LACK of good food, and you say it was the best you ever had? I am truly sorry for you 😱.

seriously, i hate paneer too. i don't know how people eat those fat cubes without puking...:barf:

Dude, that's like saying:

seriously, i hate [insert type of cheese here...swiss, american, gouda, whatever] too. i don't know how people eat those fat [cubes, wedges, or slices] without puking...
 
I love paneer. Although it's pretty high in fat and saturated fat (it is cheese after all) I think it's still pretty healthy in moderation since it comes from milk and has loads of protein. For Indian vegetarians like me, we get the majority of our protein intake from dairy products.

Metabolism is complicated so I wouldn't assume that just because something is high in fat that it is unhealthy. You definitely have to watch how much of it you eat though.
 
Indian food is quite possibly the tastiest food ever. Which is weird for me to say, as I couldn't stand it six months ago. But man, it really grows on you. Christ, I'm itching for some chicken masala.
 
Let me get this straight...you had Indian food in England, a country universally renowned for its LACK of good food, and you say it was the best you ever had? I am truly sorry for you 😱.


unfortunately you're wrong twice there. (1) the curries in england are brilliant b/c there is a large indian/pakistani population who make them the authentic way they should be made and (2) three of the top ten restaurants in the world are in england, serving english-style food. they cant be that bad, if theyre beating everyone else :laugh: have you even been to england?
 
unfortunately you're wrong twice there. (1) the curries in england are brilliant b/c there is a large indian/pakistani population who make them the authentic way they should be made and (2) three of the top ten restaurants in the world are in england, serving english-style food. they cant be that bad, if theyre beating everyone else :laugh: have you even been to england?

I've lived there, and you're right. There's a reason why indian people joke about the 'motherland' being England. 😛
 
I've lived there, and you're right. There's a reason why indian people joke about the 'motherland' being England. 😛

i was born there (british tho, not indian/paki), and there's a reason why i consider curry part of my cultural heritage 😉 you cant beat a vindaloo and a few pints of cobra for a friday night out 😀
 
i was born there (british tho, not indian/paki), and there's a reason why i consider curry part of my cultural heritage 😉 you cant beat a vindaloo and a few pints of cobra for a friday night out 😀

Give me lamb vindaloo or give me death (or both). Bay Area has plenty of good Indian restaurants: Sunnyvale, Palo Alto, etc. I have been to about 15 different Bay Area Indian Restaurants and they were all excellent. Los Angeles, on the other hand, is quite pathetic when it comes to Indian food...
 
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