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[GatorWell]

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Hi, I am planning to take the test in August. How do you study for PAT??? WHat is the best prepartion for DAT?

 

[ibo man]

Kaplan CD ROM.

 

[Beagle]

Buy the Barrons book. It gives you tips on how to approach each type of PAT problem.
It is a cheap book and they even have cut outs for the hole punching and paper folding sections.
When in Aug is your DAT?

 

[NewNameForGoogleBot]

Beagle,

How do the Barrons practice tests compare with the real DAT? (academic and PAT)

 

[Beagle]

barrons practice problems are a lot easier than the real thing in terms of the PAT.
The Math is pretty similar to the real test, the reading is a harder in barrons, I really do not remember using it for Gchem, Ochem, and Bio, although I'm sure it is very useful for practice problems.

 

[ddstothecor]

Originally posted by Gator Well
Take a year off?
I am in this dillema.. I have good gpa 4.0 with science major. But i didn't do well at all on the April MCAT ( verbal 5..... 10'z on sciences...).......(* I have only been in US for 10 years....)

I really don't think my verbal will improve much. Thus, I am thinking about takin a year off and study harder for verbal and take it next year. Is this a good idea? Or Do i still have a chance of getting in??? I know its hard for a person to get in with a 5 on verbal.. but couple of people in this fourm encouraged me saying that they know some people in similiar situation and got in.... What should i do?

I found this gem in the preallopathic forum.
Burning the candle at both ends eh GatorWell?
It looks like dental is your back-up plan. Not that you won't be happy, but maybe you should decide what you want to do.

 

[critterbug]

I'm sure Supernumerary will chime in here, but I will reiterate what he has been saying all along. I think most students who are Biology/Chemistry majors are defaulted into pre-med their first few years of school. Really there is no problem with that. I think Gatorwell has shown true interest in dentistry, plus her sister is in dental school, so she knows what she's getting herself into. I for one started out pre-med also, as I'm sure most people on this pre-dental forum did (I'm not saying ALL did). I just think most students are uneducated about the dental profession and are blindly guided through school by their advisors, family, peers, stigma, etc without truly educating themselves about alternative healthcare careers.

I for one strongly feel I could have gotten into medical school if I had applyed, but there was something holding me back, something that is hard to explain.....I just had a gut feeling that I wouldn't be happy with that path. So, I took a few years off to work and I've finally seen the light. 🙂 I began to look into other healthcare fields and started educating myself about dentistry. Now I'm not saying dentistry is for everyone, but I can honestly say that I have found my calling and I couldn't imagine myself doing anything else. I didn't feel that way about medicine and Gatorwell probably doesn't either. Now, it took me a while to figure that out, but I'm glad I took the time because I truly would be one unhappy medical student right now if I went that route.

I just think Gatorwell has seen the light. Sure, her MCAT scores aren't great, but if she truly wanted to go to medical school she could retake those MCAT's and get in im sure. Heck, she could prob get in SOMEWHERE with those scores. But becasue she's not, she must not be passionate about medicine. Her passion for dentistry is yet to be seen, but the fact that she is going against her parents and peers guidances and advice and applying to dental school anyway shows alot of guts. GO with your heart gatorwell, it will always lead you in the right direction.

Good Luck with your endeavors.

 

[mcataz]

Gatorwell

It's pretty obvious you are lying to everyone on here. You wrote that message two days ago. And you told all of us that you cancelled your secondaries to medical school. Well, if you did that, why would you be concerned how schools will view your MCAT. Supposedly, you abandoned the idea of medical school in exchange for dentistry. And it's pretty obvious, you are applying to dental schools as a backup because you are unsure if your MCAT score will guarantee you a spot in medical school

Anyway, I don't really care if you lied to us. It doesn't matter to me. Do what makes you happy. That's all I care about. I would seriously do some soul searching because if dentistry is your backup plan, then you will never truly be happy. Don't do dentistry because your parents want you to do something if you don't get into medical school. I can empathize with being under that type of pressure, but it doesn't make it right nonetheless. And in the long run, you will regret your decision to be a dentist regardless of how successfull you are, because in the back of the your mind, you will always wonder what if you could have went to medical school. Seriously, it's 4 years and a lot of work to pursue something that you would just be okay with.

Take a year off; get a 9 on verbal and then go to the medical school of your dreams. 🙂

Best of Luck

 

[emporio]

i was a pre-med but failed to gain admission. my mcat sucked really bad (verbal IS hard gatorwell). i took a year off and applied to dental schools. i'll be starting dental next month. i don't regret not pursuing medicine. my uncles are dentists and they have very stable lives. that's all i want.. stable life with less stress. dentistry is a great career. i don't think of it as an alternative to medicine.

oh, i was at barns&nobles yesterday and i read a book called "best jobs"(i think that was the title). the book illustrated that dentist had higher income than allopathic doctors. (average!)

 

[mcataz]

emporio

Stress is important. I agree with you. It's one reason why medicine doesn't appeal to me. There is stress in dentistry too. But there is significantly less stress in dentistry than there is in medicine.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by emporio


oh, i was at barns&nobles yesterday and i read a book called "best jobs"(i think that was the title). the book illustrated that dentist had higher income than allopathic doctors. (average!)

I believe ther first occurance of dentists having a higher average salary than physicians occured in 1999, and has stayed that way ever since!

With recent insurance trends, it shouldn't change in the years to come either.