PCMH--Is this the Savior of Primary Care?

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Read this from CMS. If CMS actually puts this in place (which could happen with the new administration), do you think that we will see primary care coming to the forefront? Will FP become a competitive specialty again?

Looking at the money, it would appear so. $40 a patient per month is a huge amount of dinheiro. If you only had 500 medicare patients, that would be and extra 240K a year. If we add that to the 120-150K, then all of the sudden Family Practice is a great specialty.

Anybody have any insider info? Is this really going to happen?

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Read this from CMS. If CMS actually puts this in place (which could happen with the new administration), do you think that we will see primary care coming to the forefront? Will FP become a competitive specialty again?

Looking at the money, it would appear so. $40 a patient per month is a huge amount of dinheiro. If you only had 500 medicare patients, that would be and extra 240K a year. If we add that to the 120-150K, then all of the sudden Family Practice is a great specialty.

Anybody have any insider info? Is this really going to happen?


I would not expect too much improvement on monetary front too soon, if ever. But I do like and believe in the concept of PCMH as an efficient, resourceful strategy to improve primary care practices. It'll definitely free PCPs to spend more time on critical things than paperwork.
 
I EXPECT an improvement. Low expectations and complacency is what accounts for the sorry state of primary care and therefore the medical system as a whole! Get involved in the process you sound like a dead fish.
 
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NO it wont change anything
 
MedicineDoc is correct, low expectations plague this field. You wanna know why medical reimbursement is so low for primary care docs? Part of it is because a majority of past MedPAC (the people who suggest reimbursement criteria/standards for medicaid to congress) commissions have in the past been an overwhelmingly majority of specialists. If we saw more primary care physicians standing up and getting involved on the local, state, and federal level we would be able to make more of a difference. Change isn't going to happen till we get over this attitude that there is someone else out there looking out for my field and I'm too busy to get involved.
 
MedicineDoc is correct, low expectations plague this field. If we saw more primary care physicians standing up and getting involved on the local, state, and federal level we would be able to make more of a difference.

I am curious as a future FM resident: How do we get involved in this? Where do I get more clear-cut info ( than what's jumbled up info on AAFP website)? Is there a group/grassroots advocacy of sorts?
 
I am curious as a future FM resident: How do we get involved in this? Where do I get more clear-cut info ( than what's jumbled up info on AAFP website)? Is there a group/grassroots advocacy of sorts?

Yep.

http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/policy/grassroots.html

http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/policy/grassroots/howto.html

Grassroots Advocacy Toolkit (PDF)

There's also a Facebook group, if you're into that: http://www.facebook.com/pages/AAFP-Grassroots-Advocacy/8146294453

If you do nothing else, at least donate to the FamMedPAC: http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/policy/fammedpac.html
 
I am curious as a future FM resident: How do we get involved in this? Where do I get more clear-cut info ( than what's jumbled up info on AAFP website)? Is there a group/grassroots advocacy of sorts?

I subscribe to the RSS feeds from the AAFP and they are pretty good and very frequent. You can pick which areas interest you.

Another thing that is also very simple is to call up your local reps and just ask if you can go by and introduce yourself the them. A lot of them have local offices not far away. Even if you don't meet with the actual representative, remember that most of their policy is written by their staff so meet the health policy advisers. Remember America is a nation where the people elect their officials, no certification or degree is required to talk to your representatives just like no degree is required to vote for them. You'll be surprised how many actually don't have any health professionals advising them and you can always offer to be available when they need input. Even students can give great advice, who else knows more about the challenges facing students wanting to go into primary care? This has a direct impact in the future primary care workforce, so let it be known.
 
I EXPECT an improvement. Low expectations and complacency is what accounts for the sorry state of primary care and therefore the medical system as a whole! Get involved in the process you sound like a dead fish.

You are right, complacency is what allowed the government and insurance intervention in the first place. However, thinking that they will be the solution is wishful thinking. Our country is bankrupt. CMS is bankrupt. There is no money for a rescue. Just say no. Opt out and return to our roots - patient and physician.
 
Isn't the medical home model just a fancy name for a clinic? I agree with the idea. Have a large group of doctors join forces and offer a basket of services including imaging and procedures. No need to refer out 99% of care, it can be done by the group. Most of the doctors in the group would be FP or IM, some would obtain procedural training to be able to offer colonoscopy and increasingly complicated procedures. Pts would never have to leave "home." Specialists would have to work with the home to get referrals.

Primary care has the distinct advantage of having the first crack at each patient.
 
Isn't the medical home model just a fancy name for a clinic? I agree with the idea. Have a large group of doctors join forces and offer a basket of services including imaging and procedures.

The concept of the patient-centered medical home has nothing to do with multi-specialty clinics, one-stop-shopping for imaging studies, or guaranteed referrals. The PCMH is defined in the link below:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...ome&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a
 
Thanks for the link Blue Dog. Reading it makes me think maybe the PCMH is a bunch of BS which amounts to an unfunded mandate to provide better care using the same old tired tools already used by the PCPs.

I'm sure I will hear some strong disagreement about this, but when I read the link I was reminded of consultants I used to work with who were all talk and no action.
 
Meh... Key is to focus on the compensation portion. Basically, PCP's are asking for reimbursement for their cost centers/overhead which are eaten as the cost of doing business. The argument is that PCP's have a higher overhead cost because they do so much more care coordination. It would be huge if we can convert our cost centers to revenue centers.

If you asked a lawyer/engineer/business consultant to do stuff for you, the time they spend doing it falls under "billable hours". They charge for their research time, phone calls, email, etc. If they write a letter or xerox documents, you get billed for it. Because doctors go through insurance and government to get paid, we have regulations that limit our ability to shift the cost of this kind of work onto the patient/payers.

PCMH is trying to make it that way so that we get paid for the time we spend on the phone & email (like discussing labs over the phone i.e. free versus in person i.e office visit with copay). Get paid for the time our referral coordinators piss away trying to get tests/referrals approved. Get paid for filling out FMLA, disability, PT/OT forms. Get paid for writing a nice email to the consultant for reason of consultation and relevant clinical history... instead of just "referred for abdominal pain." Get paid for dieticians, nurse educators, exercise physiologists to work in our offices. Get paid for the time on hold to get a consultant to send you their clinic notes, chase labs, op notes, and discharge summaries from 5 different specialists, etc.

Now, this can be done on a fee-for-service basis ($X for every phone call we return) or on a PMPM basis ($X per patient per month flat fee) to pay for the paper-pushing. I think they're negotiating/working this out.

To rephrase, it's a proposal to get paid for things that are *supposed* to be done, but usually don't or aren't done well because we (and our staff) (and specialists) don't get paid to do it. And it's a proposal to get paid for things we do for our patients after we leave the exam room and the work we do after patient-care hours. In residency vocabulary, it's a proposal to get paid for scutwork.

It has nothing to do with multi-specialty clinic or gatekeeper model or one-stop shopping real-estate game.


http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/membership/initiatives/pcmh/brief.html
HOW ARE PHYSICIANS COMPENSATED UNDER THE PCMH MODEL?
The PCMH appropriately recognizes the added value provided to patients who have a patient-centered medical home. The payment structure should:
Reflect the value of physician and non-physician staff work that falls outside of the face-to-face visit associated with patient-centered care management.
Pay for services associated with coordination of care both within a given practice and between consultants, ancillary providers, and community resources.
Support adoption and use of health information technology for quality improvement.
Support provision of enhanced communication access such as secure e-mail and telephone consultation.
Recognize the value of physician work associated with remote monitoring of clinical data using technology.
Allow for separate fee-for-service payments for face-to-face visits. (Payments for care management services that fall outside of the face-to-face visit, as described above, should not result in a reduction in the payments for face-to-face visits.)
Recognize case mix differences in the patient population being treated within the practice.
Allow physicians to share in savings from reduced hospitalizations associated with physician-guided care management in the office setting.
Allow for additional payments for achieving measurable and continuous quality improvements.
 
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Reading it makes me think maybe the PCMH is a bunch of BS which amounts to an unfunded mandate to provide better care using the same old tired tools already used by the PCPs.

I think you need to keep reading.
 
Meh... Key is to focus on the compensation portion. Basically, PCP's are asking for reimbursement for their cost centers/overhead which are eaten as the cost of doing business. The argument is that PCP's have a higher overhead cost because they do so much more care coordination. It would be huge if we can convert our cost centers to revenue centers.

This makes sense. Question would be where is the money going to come from. We already spend a tremendous amount on tests, procedures and specialists. Someone would have to wrangle the money away from them. And that would take power and political clout.
 
Why do we need the government to be our saviour? Heaven forbid you publish on your website, or a bulletin in your waiting room explicit details of your fees. You make it quite clear up front that this is the huge list of all that you provide and amongst them is a fee for paperwork. Is it really so hard? The demand for comprehensive care physicians is huge. They are the largest % of locum tenems demand. Why are people still punishing themselves under the oppression of the insurance mafia and CMS?

The reduction in staff no longer needed to fight with them is enough to make it solvent. The overhead reduction will permit more affordable fees in a fee for service model. Here's some good reading to get your mind thinking.


http://www.patmosemergiclinic.com./FEE_SCHEDULE.pdf
http://www.simplecare.com/about.html
http://www.aafp.org/fpm/20070600/19brea.html
 
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